If he's coming good, he won't go anywhere
Martin Ødegaard - Next season
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I thought he had retired already.
Yeah, it's not like Madrid to offload players and watch them come good elsewhere at all.
Is he playing as a RW or an Am?
Just asking because whilst it may seem lazy - I wouldn't be surprised if a Norwegian manager went for a Norwegian player if he thought that they were able to make the step up at a club like United.
So is he playing at RW or Am?
Just asking because whilst it may seem lazy - I wouldn't be surprised if a Norwegian manager went for a Norwegian player if he thought that they were able to make the step up at a club like United.
So is he playing at RW or Am?
He has spoken of his «mistake» of bringing in too many former players at Cardiff. He absolutely won’t sign Ødegaard as a starter for a spot at United. Ødegaard won’t come as a project, which is the only conceiveable scenario at this time, he is already one at a club with higher status currently.
RW. He plays sort of similar to what Mata does for us on the right. In a better way too in my opinion, but all their offensive play goes through him. He is very much the main man there at the moment so while he is doing good, at a bigger club he might not be afforded as many opportunities to affect the game as he is now. I think him being Norwegian might work against it this time around, as the post above me alludes to, but I actually think 20m for a player like this would represent good value as an additional signing to Sancho or something. He is a player who fits our requirements on that right side and would offer something different in terms of playmaking than say Lingard and Chong. Would be a decent replacement to Mata, imo.
He is too good for RM - better if he aims for clubs like Ajax 
Ajax being a good team does not mean that the Eredivisie is a good league. Apart from PSV and Ajax the quality is pretty poor. Neymar moving to PSG wasn't weird because PSG are shit, because they're not. It was because a player like that is way too good to be playing in Ligue 1. Ødegaard is still young, so he has time to make his move to a big league in the future, but I think it would be a mistake to commit long-term to a team in a league that he's already very close to outgrowing.
Honestly, Real should give him a chance next season. They're at the start of a drastic rebuilding process and need their most talented youngsters to carry some of the load in order to reduce the need to spend heavily. Half their team is nearing retirement or showing signs of rapid decline at this point and it's going to be expensive if they want to return to the level they expect to be at.
As far as I know he plays both, but as of late more in a RW (not sure though since I don't really watch that much Dutch football.)
He could be a bit of a successor to Mata if one could say such a thing. I suppose there was a reason Real saw some talent in him when they picked him up. But he is very hyped in Norwegian media, fits well in the Dutch league, not sure about the prem though.
I think he would need a year at least to get used to PL, although it would be really good for him imo. It would toughen him up a bit. He is raw talent and has extreme technical qualities and vision. Also superb at set pieces. Maybe better suited to spanish football? Still needs to toughen up and get better at physical play. But he is still young and developing fast now. In one year he might have a pricetag to high for anyone and return to RM. If anyone wants to buy him it has to be now I guess.
Good evaluation. I’d agree that he’s still very much a boy. He has a small frame and will fill out naturally over the next couple of years. I think he’s quite ‘tough’ though, been playing against men since he was 14(?). Strength will come naturally as his body fills out.
Handre, yes he started early playing against adults. He was 15yo and 117 days when he made his debut in the norwegian top series "Eliteserien" in 2014. He also scored his first goal there 1 month later. He impressed so much in short time that he made his debut in Norways national side in August 2014 and became the youngest player ever to play for Norways internationals. January 2015 he was signed by RM. If anyones interested, here's a video showing his highlights the first season, 2014 (Sorry for the link having to be copied, I am not yet approved for posting media links it seems : youtube.com/watch?v=BnrounkK3qY
: youtube.com/watch?v=BnrounkK3qYYeah, I know mate! I’m T-town, like you I guess, considering your team?Handre, yes he started early playing against adults. He was 15yo and 117 days when he made his debut in the norwegian top series "Eliteserien" in 2014. He also scored his first goal there 1 month later. He impressed so much in short time that he made his debut in Norways national side in August 2014 and became the youngest player ever to play for Norways internationals. January 2015 he was signed by RM. If anyones interested, here's a video showing his highlights the first season, 2014 (Sorry for the link having to be copied, I am not yet approved for posting media links it seems
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Too good for the Eredivisie hehe ? You think he would be a starter at Ajax right now ? Think again!
He was shit last season at Heerenveen. Played a few good games for Vitesse (against some lower league clubs). That's basically it.
Even Ajax fans don't rate him that high. But the Dutch media thinks he's the perfect replacement for Ziyech.
I think he has a lot of potential. He's an attractive and smart player to watch. But he still has a lot to learn.
Ajax would be perfect for his development.
2 good seasons at Ajax. And he can go to every club!
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Agree that Ajax would be a good next step for him.
Agreed. Still all to prove. I believe he has massive potential though.
The use of this rhetoric is to pick up girls out of ones league. Or more like a pimp mentality. Anyways, I agree he should play for Ajax in the CL etc next season.
The Freddy Adu that might actually come good, eventually
Up against decent opposition (RVP ) right now for anyone interested.
) right now for anyone interested.Been good so far.
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Putting pressure on Real to lower the asking price?
Should have signed for them instead of Real Madrid. I remember him, Halilovic and Mastour being raved about four years ago. Mastour plays in Greece and Halilovic in Belgium (on loan but option to buy). Sounds like Odegaard is now doing well, but should have made that move earlier. Still, he's only 20, so a couple of good years at Ajax and who knows? Neres went to Ajax at 19/20, is now 22 and has got his first call-up for Brazil.
Choosing to go to Madrid in the first place was utterly bonkers. If he really is the real deal and had signed for a sensible club, he might have earned a move to Madrid by now
Have to say I disagree. In hindsight Real was obviously not the best option for his development but he's still a Real player and that's a once in a lifetime opportunity. If he went to Ajax in the first place, he might have never gotten the chance to be at a club like Real and train with a legend like Ronaldo, for example. It's not like Real comes calling for every decent talent Ajax develops, i.e. Neres and De Jong right now (although Barca did for the latter).
If he's good enough, he'll still develop further and end up at the level he should be at, be that a top club in Europe or a level just below that. But the "if he went to Ajax in the first place he might've earned a move to Madrid by now" thing is simply not true imo, or best case you could argue that we'll never know how far along his develop he'd be right now.
It's so easy to stand on the sidelines and be like "oh he should've done this or that for the sensible move in his career" but when Real comes calling it's a once in a lifetime opportunity for a lot of players and very hard to turn down, especially if you also consider the monetary side of the deal. Easy to say what you'd do in that situation but a whole different kind of thing if it's really you that's involved.
I don't think that hindsight was required to see that Madrid wouldn't give a young player a chance and that he would be farmed out to Castilla then a series of loan clubs.
Maybe if he signed for Ajax years ago he wouldn't be about to sign for Madrid. But the one thing I know for sure is that he didn't get to play for Madrid by signing for them.
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Most underwhelming “destroyed” video I have watched in a while
Those two moments were really nice, and show a little bit of what’s in his locker. I hope he plays against Sweden, he looked really good against them 4 years ago.
Aarons the right back being put as a LB... ok...
If Real wants to send him on loan again - why not give them a call ?
United? He's not good enough if that's what you mean.
Yeah, don’t see us loaning a kid who needs to develop. I’d be for buying him, though
It is best for him to join Ajax next season to replace DeJong. He needs regular game time to develop.
Ajax, despite their impressive record for youth development, would be a sideways move for him. Even the Vitesse coach stated that Odegaard needs tougher competition than what he's facing in Eredivisie. He's an immensely talented kid who's now showing some real consistency. At this point a loan to the Bundesliga or La Liga would be most preferable.
Lost his bearings when he had possession in the defensive third tonight, got dispossessed on a few occasions in dangerous positions. But he's a real threat when he has the ball in the opposition half. Decent delivery too considering it was his only set piece all game:
Way too easily dispossesed or pushed off the ball, though. For such an early prospect, he seems a real slow developper. He’s a fairly good player at 20, it will be interesting to see if he has a few more gears in him when it comes to the physical and mental side of it.