I have more faith when Shaw is a center back than with Maguire and Lindelof together.
Martinez and Varane official injury update | Martinez out for rest of season, Varane a few weeks
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
I blame the man who shall not be named (uses botox) for everything bad that happened this season
Everyone. The owners, the board and maybe even the manager too if we don't make CL football. It will be an absolute disaster if we don't make it.Who's heads?
If we can get through this week or so then utilise Shaw and Varane when needed we might be okay.
Just really bad timing given we could be out of both cup competitions by that point
The Maguire and Lindelof got us to a EL final only two years ago. And now we have Casemiro in front of them. We’ll be fine with them. It’s the lack of goals that i am kind of concerned about especially without Rashford
At least Lindelof and Maguire are an established partnership. Not many clubs have the 'fortune' of a pairing like that as full back up. It's not ideal, but it's where we are and we deal with it.
Totally knew it was metatarsal, almost carbon copy of Rooney pulling up a while back. Sooo much better than an achilles. I've broken two and they heal pretty fast and fully, and that's without professional care.
Totally knew it was metatarsal, almost carbon copy of Rooney pulling up a while back. Sooo much better than an achilles. I've broken two and they heal pretty fast and fully, and that's without professional care.
Why don't we disband the football club, whilst we're on about it?
wtf are you on about
I hate the Europa League. Hate it. Terrified of top 4 race now.
This is what happens when you have a bloody world cup in the middle of the season.
Its a hypothetical question mate. If we finish 5th and don't win anything else it's been an awful season.Why don't we disband the football club, whilst we're on about it?
wtf are you on about
If Martial stay fit, with Sancho and Antony, I think we will be fine. We are a complete different proposition up front with him. He is very good at keeping the ball and playing football.
Although both are error prone and shrink in the biggest moments, Lindelof and Maguire are both still premier league level defenders that can do a good job depending on how the side is set up. If we move the line a little backwards and stop the fannying around at the back, the pairing can work.
It's an hysterical reaction mate.
Okay with Martial and Antony, not okay with Sancho who I feel is pretty useless. Would rather anyone else than him out there.
Nope, not a single match. A few days ago I went through all of Martial's matches to see if any of them had our strongest team (he's missed so many it's obviously the easiest way to cut down the amount of matches), and the closest we came were three matches where we were missing one defender. Varane once and Martinez twice.
The current alternative is Elanga. So yeah, Sancho it is.
Actually, the other alternative is to play Bruno on the left and let Sabitzer continue at the #10 role. Or Wout. But either would obviously be weakening ourselves through the middle and probably wouldn't be worth it.
Not really given that the owners and board are likely changing anyway. How is that hysterical? Hahaha
If we come 5th and don't win any more cups will you consider the season a success? It will be a disaster in my eyes.
Let's hope we get over the line.
He's a known OGS fanboy, nothing surprising
I don't know why that's been brought up in a thread about defensive injuries, makes no sense.
Sack everyone because Martinez got a very unfortunate injury. Varane has been in and out all season, as has Shaw. The only big miss is Martinez, no reason to cry like a little baby, ffs!
I believe it'll be tough because I think Maguire is a calamitous defender and any line-up with him is likely to be exposed several times a game, no matter how well we play or don't.
But if we finish 5th, it'll certainly would be about par for the course before the season started and anyone trying to rewrite the past is obviously not doing it in good faith
I understand the negativity but Varane-Shaw is still a good CB pairing once he comes back. At least we got Casemiro, Eriksen and Martial back. The season is definitely not over, although I wouldn't be devastated if we get knocked out by Sevilla. Just gotta make sure we lock up top 4 and we got a good chance of doing that.
With Casimero back to protect the defence, we should be alright.
Sorry but europa is not worth the hassle, there are no instances of a team magically gaining a winners mentality when they win it and it just ultimately hinders teams in the league just like it did when we won under mourinho.
it's hard not to believe that we would be in a far healthier position in the league without playing in europa league, there are only 3 trophies worth winning and that is premier league, fa cup and champions league.
I can understand mid table sides taking it serious but not clubs of our size.
it's hard not to believe that we would be in a far healthier position in the league without playing in europa league, there are only 3 trophies worth winning and that is premier league, fa cup and champions league.
I can understand mid table sides taking it serious but not clubs of our size.
T'was tongue in cheek.
Well the owners and the board's heads cant roll because they are actually in charge so that just leaves ETH.
So what your actually saying is sack the manager if we dont make CL football. Hmmm ok.
If we don't make top 4 I think serious questions should be asked considering how bad the rivals for top 4 are and the fact we've been up there all season.
I think we will make it though so it's all purely hypothetical. I will be livid if we don't.
Anyone else think it was unacceptable that the Sevilla players carried him off the pitch? Self interest disguised as friendliness. Get him off so they could play against 10 men and to top it off they stood him on his feet at the side of the pitch when he had a broken foot.
He is of age and can decide himself if he wants to be carried or not. Think it really was just a friendly gesture and if not, who can blame them for wanting to continue the game?
It is very concerning and not just at CB position, I think it will be a very tricky end of the season
Martinez barely played in the World Cup. If anything it gave him a bit of a rest.
But even if he did, I still don't see the link between games and a broken bone.
True. There's no game left which you'd reasonably expect the other team to win, seen in isolation. I think Spurs blew their chance today.
Still better than last season.
But no, you are chatting absolute rubbish here. It’s been a great season, and we have seen big improvements. Nobody expected to win anything this season so if it’s all we get then LC is a bonus.
Calm the feck down.
No if we were to finish 5th (I don't think we will FYI) it would be far from a great season. It would be pretty disastrous in my opinion.
It was purely hypothetical.
I don't think it's been a great season either. That's going way too far.
Correct, Im in my own camp which declares its the destination i'm interested in and the journey can be rocky. Ten Hag will get the playing style we desire. As for where we finish? top 4 is a win, if not and we end up outside top 4 and it makes the parasites press the sell button then its a win, win.Why don't we disband the football club, whilst we're on about it?
wtf are you on about
Fixture congestion after the world cup till end of season.
It's been a great season for Arsenal, not for us. For us it has been a decent season after last year's disaster.
A Carabao Cup win doesn't make our season great, only winning a major trophy would. (or for us winning the other 2 cups also)
At least that's how I see it.
The man has a 70% win rate in his first season with a squad that isn't fully his yet. He's worked miracles to get a tune out of some of the players who were here last season. Yes there have been blips and it hasn't been perfect.
He has enough credit for next season at least. Questions need to be asked next season if we are still getting tankings against the scousers and city etc. If we aren't comfortably in the top 4 next season 2nd/3rd then without doubt he will be under pressure.
If people aren't happy with this season then they have unrealistic expectations. ETH is doing a good job with learning a new league. Next season is big for him.
The congestion post world cup has weakened his bones?
If that was a thing we'd have players everywhere going down with metatarsals.
There isn't, it was just a fluke occurrence. People on here will find any reason to moan at the manager for not resting a player more.
If that happens it will have been largely down to things outside of the manager's control, like losing so many key players to injury, including both CBs.
So close to the run in, this would derail any teams season. Look how much Arsenal struggled without Saliba the other night.
Let's at least wait for the season to end and see how we do. We can then try and dissect it using a bit of perspective, instead of emotional hyperbole.