paulscholes18
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Hopefully he can get a loan move, should have got one in January.
This all depends on what his routine has been like, which I haven’t seen any concrete evidence on. Surely one would imagine he hired a personal coach this whole time he’s been off.How much time he would require to get back to full match fitness ?
Same. Anything football related from United's perspective should be considered irrelevant now.
Get him out of the club so he can resume his career elsewhere and the club can move on.
The rational thing to do is to weigh up the potential financial downsides of playing him (potential loss of sponsors or merchandise purchasing supporters) against the potential financial upsides of keeping him (a talent that could cost €100m on the open market to replace). Right now, the club has no idea what Greenwood is worth on the pitch. He has had an 18 month layoff and maybe he is a shadow of the promising player he once was. So the rational thing to do is to pack him off to Italy/Spain and see if he kills it there. If he does, then we either flog him for far far more than we'd get now, or we reintegrate him for the 24/25 season. If he looks mediocre, then we quietly release him and never have to deal with the potential negative repercussions of playing him.Bar a huge loan fee or a marquee striker coming in, I'd keep him. We need all the goals we can get. If he flops then we release him. If he does great we can keep him or sell him for a good fee. That's the smart, rational way to handle this.
There won't be a circus imo. There wasn't one for Partey. The media will stay silent, social media will rumble for a few weeks and then move on.No player is good enough to justify the circus that will surround him playing for this club again. He could turn out to be the best striker the game has ever seen (he won’t) and it’d still not be worth it.
Let him rehabilitate his career at another club, because it’d genuinely sadden me to see kids wearing his name on the back of their United shirts at games.
I dont know but I guess it will be hard to come back from that. Unless he trained hard all the time and had a pro routine but he might be very rustyHas there ever been a case where a player has been out of the game for so long and managed to come back into it?
There's a world of difference between United and Arsenal coverage wise though, you may be right though, the Mendy saga doesn't seem to garner much coverage nowThere won't be a circus imo. There wasn't one for Partey. The media will stay silent, social media will rumble for a few weeks and then move on.
Training with Elanga for those unaware.
No player is good enough to justify the circus that will surround him playing for this club again. He could turn out to be the best striker the game has ever seen (he won’t) and it’d still not be worth it.
Let him rehabilitate his career at another club, because it’d genuinely sadden me to see kids wearing his name on the back of their United shirts at games.
Players suffered from season long injuries all the time. And there were also players coming back from long term ban too (Maradona, Cantona, Rio etc)Has there ever been a case where a player has been out of the game for so long and managed to come back into it?
Might have got it trimmed, it's baking hot in Dubai at the moment.Is this recent ? He had much longer hair in the other recent private training pics.
Yesterday I think. He tidied his appearance not long after those initial training pictures came out.Is this recent ? He had much longer hair in the other recent private training pics.
Also bears noting that this conversation has been had on other football forums and reddit and Twitter without the world collapsing, and it makes no sense why the mods are treating this like a hot potato. But anyways, football talk only.
I personally think a domestic loan is out of the question. No one is going to take him i think.I definitely want him back playing for us, but I think for our sake we should loan him to a Premiership or even Championship side. My rationale is two fold. 1. let him take his medicine in England and get it out of the way before he rejoins us and 2. A move abroad may not be the best place for someone so young. Different language and culture, it's easy for him to get homesick and I'm worried if he has a failed loan move abroad that would be the end for him.
He seems to have enquiries from reports though. I think more clubs will be willing to take him than you thinkI personally think a domestic loan is out of the question. No one is going to take him i think.
Is this recent ? He had much longer hair in the other recent private training pics.
Aah ok, fair enough.He seems to have enquiries from reports though. I think more clubs will be willing to take him than you think
He seems to have enquiries from reports though. I think more clubs will be willing to take him than you think
Looked like a stick figure in the last pictures I saw and hasn't touched a ball in 2 years. Bet the circumstances will affect his focus, too. I don't think he will ever be the player he was. Best to loan him to Atalanta or another similar club and decide next summer.
With case against Greenwood dropped what coverage media can conjure up , there would be uproar in Social Media for a while and at Stadiums but it would die down Quickly whether We like it or not it seems Club decision is leaning towards keeping him and sending him on loan to Gauge if he is still good enough on the field or not if he is He comes backs and gets reintegrated if he isn't he gets moved on .There's a world of difference between United and Arsenal coverage wise though, you may be right though, the Mendy saga doesn't seem to garner much coverage now
I simply can't envision a situation where Greenwood ends up on the pitch for this club again. It would be the straw that breaks the camels back in officially confirming a classless and immoral path the club is going down. Surely ETH will look past the football perceptive and send him out on loan, or get rid as soon as possible.
Spot on
Also, thinking about some of the rumours, I don't see the point in a loan move. Surely this is just kicking the can further down the road. If United see him as a major issue now, they should sell.
If they think he can be rehabilitated etc, they should own it (including the PR circus that will follow) and announce their plans to keep him discussing ways to integrate back in to the side. I assume we're going to be paying most of his wages if he does move to Italy.
Understandable they'd prefer not to have to deal with any potential legal liability. Do you have a link to the post by any chance?I am going to assume you missed the post from the mods yesterday where they stated the owner of this board has received Cease and Desist letters and understandably has no desire for any more. Niall owns the board and the consequences of "freedom of speech" actaully land on him so it actually makes a ton of sense why they are taking the stance that they are.
Appreciate what you’re saying but I slightly disagree.In respect of ability/fitness he's in exactly the same position as any other player who's had a long term injury, Luke Shaw for example and there are plenty of others, ultimately it's down to him