Mason Greenwood - Getafe loan
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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Ok, right.
What’s wrong with me?
His partner and he have a child together, so of course they deserve to have a good life together, and of course we should hope they can.
Doesn’t mean they will, but whilst she and the baby are living with him, I wish them the very best.
If she leaves him, because he can’t be a good Dad or father, I’m all for saying “feck him and his career”, but as of now, a young baby and partner are part of this whether we like it or not.
He hasn’t kicked a ball in 18 months and is a PR disaster but still got better offers than Donny 
The child has certainly not made that choice for obvious reasons, and his partner who posted those images and recordings has unfortunately not managed to free herself rather it be for financial obligations or manipulation.
Be a bit shit and these lot abuse you, batter and abuse a young girl and it's all best wishes. Sickening
you are all so transparent
if this was Lingard you would be agreeing with them
Why wouldn’t/shouldn’t they?
Colonel Getafe to the rescue
I would never wish lingard ill. For what? Being shit? Nah. People think they can wish him harm and then judge him? Hypocrites of the highest order.
you are all so transparent
if this was Lingard you would be agreeing with them
Agree. In a top league too.
Aye. I’m a degenerate because I want an innocent child to have a happy Mum, Dad & family.
feck me this place.
And whilst she, nor the child are “free”, I can hope they all manage to have a good life together.
Thus, I’m a degenerate.
You have zero idea of the man your defending state of mind either, all we have are those vile images and recordings.
You don't know anything but who cares right. Just lynch him in case.
Mob mentality.
Where? All I see is people hoping they can rebuild their lives and then people who wish him all the worst.
Exactly, none of us really know anything so no one should be talking with any certainty about any of it.
Karen mentality even.
You’ll never get a single one of them to admit their true motivations. But I agree, it’s transparent as hell, and I’m glad a lot of reasonable posters on here can see through it.
No.
You're a degenerate for making light of a man who beat his partner; threatened to rape her; broke his bail conditions and never showed any contrition for his actions until the very end of the process.
Except we do know a something and it was made public for all to see and hear.
When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth have always won. Vamos Getafe.
Exactly. It’s Karen mentality.
Utterly see-through.
It’s so fecking weird. If his partner had left him, or does leave him because he is unable to be a good partner or father, I’d also be saying “feck his career”.
But pretending it’s abhorrent to hope the three of them, including a little baby can manage to have a good life together is one of the oddest takes I’ve ever come across.
Calling me a degenerate for wishing a young family can work on their massive problems and be happy, is next level altogether.
Clubs playing long game. He's such a talent they'll play absolutely every possible card before letting him go.
Sorry where did I do that exactly?
I was under the impression I simply wish he, his live in partner and their baby can make a happy life together.
You already concluded he beat and raped her so I'll leave you to your inside knowledge.
Mate, stop mentioning the baby. The happiness of that child is not why you are so invested in this thread.
The main problem is, Manchester United has decided to be with him as they are also see him as their son….
No.
If you're happy to have a woman beating; rape threatening, bail floating abuser on the team so be it.
But don't be surprised when people rightfully speak out about it
If there is no verdict issued, then it is such that he is, by definition, innocent. The fact that some attribute a 'we don't really know' approach is precisely why doubt should work in his favor, especially when the police did not believe the evidence was sufficient for a conviction.
This IS the core of the discussion regarding Greenwood's return, so we need to address that.
But yes, one can be guilty without being convicted. However, the point remains that knowledge of whether a person is guilty is crucial for a verdict. If a murder cannot be solved due to a lack of concrete 'knowledge,' you can claim the person is guilty, but it's not based on objective findings.
Legally speaking, Greenwood is innocent! Alternatively, we can all individually speculate on what he exactly did - and in that way, attribute guilt to him for actions that would even vary if you ask 10 different people."
Underated
I still have a sneaking feeling that we will do another u-turn on this at the end of the season based on him scoring for fun for Getafe and "turning himself around personally."
Also Getafe? Like wtf?
Also Getafe? Like wtf?
Aye, see-through.
I’ll change my views, I instead hope he gets no club, and has no career, and that the family instead hate each other, he continues to abuse her and the kid and they have a shitty life.
Whats the point from Getafe side? If the got him permanently and hope to make millions it might have made sense but its a loan. Its not a risk to win something because they wont. The best the get is to damage thier reputation and move a couple of places up the table. I dont get it
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