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Ah sorry, I forgot that there are no great players outside of man united. My bad.England and Man Utd isn’t ahead of him so I disagree
It is actually and just like everyone else, no one really knows what happened. So with that in mind no one should be talking in definitive terms. Won't stop you though.It really isn't a valid point at all.
It's their own fault for weighing as much as a duck.Ah yes. The witch hunts where innocent women were drowned or burned at the stake. Very similar situations.
There's been plenty of posts, I've been reading the thread all day, they are there if you want to look for them.Which posts exactly? Or are you generalising?
I’m yet to see a single person deny what was seen or heard. What has been revealing is how many posters see any view that doesn’t parrot theirs in the worst context possible.
This is meant to be a forum, with discussion.
Genuine question. @moses @Ainu is classing all opposing views as despicable being dismissive?
That's certainly one of the angles that makes you ponder. But is MU really the right organisation to supervise or substitute itself to social and health services ? Would you trust them with that to begin with ? If the club tried to provide with additional access to care during his suspension that is maybe the most that could be asked.Honestly, I would be a little worried for her now Mason has not got what he seemingly wanted. Even more so, if his career nosedives.
Is that United responsibility to keep him on, just because they feel there may be reprocussions down the line for her?
The only context it could have added would surely implicate her instead.So, if the evidence added more context to the tapes and or pictures, I take it his partner did not want that released? Or maybe disagreed that it added more context?
If only more could take this view, maybe just maybe society would be a slightly less toxic place.Bad decision football wise as we desperately need him on the RW.
Good decision from a branding perspective and impact on the women's team.
Not going to comment on his charges beyond that the charges themselves are serious and unexcusable. But at the end of the day, none of us have enough information to know what exactly happened and I for one don't care to be judge, jury, and executioner given the severe consequences on the lives of the two individuals and their future child.
Nowhere has the club said he would be released.I didn't quite understand, is the conclusion that he is NOT guilty but they can't say why, and that he even though NOT guilty will be released? Boy, the club sure knows how to make a mess larger. They are being very ambiguous.
The possibility of the sun exploding exists - I'm not debating possibilities or what one would consider an eventuality. I merely posted what the club is stating currentlyIf he is not sold right now and only loaned then that eventuality absolutely exists irrespective of what suits are Briefing right now .
No but would you agree it doesn’t have the ceiling it once had ?His career isn’t done mate.
He’s one of the best young forwards in England - possibly the best.
Utd isn’t the right place for him to be, but he’s now free to restart his career.
Jesus reading through this thread has really shown what absolute scum we have here on the cafe. I've actually got to the point where I don't think I want to post on here any more knowing that some of ye have the opinions that you do. It's dispicable.
What about the picture posted of Amber heard suggesting it's the same thing?Which posts exactly? Or are you generalising?
I’m yet to see a single person deny what was seen or heard. What has been revealing is how many posters see any view that doesn’t parrot theirs in the worst context possible.
This is meant to be a forum, with discussion.
Genuine question. @moses @Ainu is classing all opposing views as despicable being dismissive?
You’re being difficult for the sake of itAh sorry, I forgot that there are no great players outside of man united. My bad.
Yes it is.Is this the woman who is currently still with him, and expecting a baby?
What's the plan if any?Nowhere has the club said he would be released.
Then its not a "Lawyer perspective". As far as law is concerned, he is innocent. There is 2 ways about it. Him being a lawyer should know that.No its not its obviously not and supremely not so with domestic abuse cases. Go look why prosecution is so low. Hopefully he's changed and she won't regret her decision but it doesn't change the most likely situation here.
I think that that is reading a little too much into their statement. They may think that he has done unacceptable/illegal things that nonetheless are not *exactly* in line with what’s been leaked to the media. I remember listening to a juror during one of Micheal Jackson’s trial who, years later, said he was certain MJ was a child abuser, but not in the precisely specific way it was put to him in court. It wouldn’t surprise me if there is something similar here.That's exactly what it sounds like. More concerned with the backlash and the damage to the brand than standing by somebody they believe to be falsely accused..
To be clear, I was referring to the guy who made the comparison as missing the point, not you. Greenwood needs to go far, far away.In no world does Mason Greenwood experience the same redemption story as Johnny Depp. Depp was much loved before the trial, his charizma is off the charts and he won his case.
Greenwood is a branding nightmare for the club.
How dare you witch hunt the moron talking about witch hunts!Ah yes. The witch hunts where innocent women were drowned or burned at the stake. Very similar situations.
It will make us unattractive for bellends.Throwing our players under the bus like this will surely make us attractive.
It wasn't directed at you but more of distrust of United's current management whom I can't take at face value anymore .The possibility of the sun exploding exists - I don't think at any point I said it's not a possibility. I merely posted what the club is stating currently
They couldn't even if they had wished to, court's didn't deem him guilty so he should be free continue his career.But they're not stopping him from having a second chance. So he gets a second chance.
Not at all. I cant trust United to do anything right, at the moment. But on this one, all involved are in a tough spot.That's certainly one of the angles that makes you ponder. But is MU really the right organisation to supervise or substitute itself to social and health services ? Would you trust them with that to begin with ? If the club tried to provide with additional access to care during his suspension that is maybe the most that could be asked.
Cutting a player who created too many issues and tell him to be someone else's problem has always been the standard MO... Not really a satisfying solution but I don't know a better one was possible. Plus it does seem it's still unclear how this arrangement will be enacted in practice.
Try to secure a loan, hope he scores hatfuls of goals and the media frenzy cools and then cash in to the highest bidder. I am not convinced this will work, probably going to have to leave European football to get away from the scandal and I am not sure any of the big 5 leagues will entertain signing him in the future.What's the plan if any?
Well her Dad said she was hacked and the release of the images/audio was unintentional.Yet she didnt come out day one and say this?
I’d put money his partner having been way way more ‘witch hunted’ than him over the last 18 months.Ah yes. The witch hunts where innocent women were drowned or burned at the stake. Very similar situations.
Sounds like he will be loaned or sold. Or loaned and later sold.What's the plan if any?
Bellends aren't the best looking.It will make us unattractive for bellends.
They both have, its a shame for the both of themI’d put money his partner having been way way more ‘witch hunted’ than him over the last 18 months.
His career is absolutely done. He will never ever be able to play in any occidental team, nor for England.His career isn’t done mate.
He’s one of the best young forwards in England - possibly the best.
Utd isn’t the right place for him to be, but he’s now free to restart his career.
Yeah, I mean he needs to rebuild it, so the immediate ceiling isn’t as high. It’ll take a lot of work from the boy.No but would you agree it doesn’t have the ceiling it once had ?
would you say his career isn’t on a very different path ?