Chelsea has been more successful than us due to Mount.
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Let's not make a mountain out of a transfer deal. I'd like to see us return for the Mac as well.
Maybe he is the player that fit the system EtH wants to employ next year. Posters always complain that we dont sign any that fit the system we play and now come back and ridicule the one we want to. If EtH wants him then its good enough.
I thought it was about the length of the contract? Doesn’t Bohley want everyone on 7 or 8 year contracts and Mount wants something more short term?
I honestly dont know how I would rate him until I see at least 10 of his games but with Leicester being relegated surley Maddison was an option as well?
At that time we didn't sign Casemiro too, he played as CM for Brentford and also at Inter. It wasn't completely new position for him.
We are trying to replace him because we are trying to improve as a team, not because Eriksen under performed.
He’s not been playing due to 1) injury and 2) his contract stance. Irrespective he started 20 league games which doesn’t suggest he was considered a bench warmer.
Mount is like numerous youngsters in that he is a decent player but his development for one reason or another has stalled he needs a move for his own sake and the reason that there is talk at this point of time is his contract yes from a club perspective he needs to go in this window but he can’t take the risk that he will loose a year training with the reserves which would be the threat from club if he turned down a move
Probably a transfer will kick start matters but he is on his way out and it’s just a matter of which club
His contract demands have been excessive and it is widely rumoured that the new owners aren’t going to offer the wages that RA was happy to indeed the other day it was suggested in a news paper report the wage bill will as a % of turnover will reduce significantly over the next few years so other than the odd exception the days of stupid money just to retain players is over.
Oh and his ceiling is far higher than Fred who i believe including substitute appears has featured in all but 3 of your league games
Yeah it will be like that. It will be extreme takes and the one to avoid.
That is my understanding of it but it's all speculation really. The contract offered was a bit too long and not quite enough (still a shitload though).
I'm almost always on the players side of these negotiations (and I am with Mount here). Negotiate as hard as you can to get as much as you can, especially when you see your (lesser performing) colleagues getting more just because they came in as a big transfer.
Reece recently signed a new deal which was for five and a half years and Ben C extended his current deal which experts in 5 years.
From what I read Mount wanted wage parity with Sterling who is the clubs top earner and the initial offer to Mason was £200k per week
Matt Law said Mount didn't ask for 300k, if that's the case then surely he didn't ask to match Sterling's wages who is one of the highest paid player in the league.
Whereas Matt Hughes suggests that’s exactly what he was looking to achieve
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...nt-rejects-200-000-week-contract-Chelsea.html
Not remotely comparable. Mount is a multi-role midfielder, Maddison is an attacker. Primarily a 10, where Bruno plays pretty much every game. He might improve our right flank, but I don't think an Antony upgrade is high on our list of priorities.
Probably Matt Law but it’s absolutely clear that Mount wants more than Chelsea feel he is worth my guess, and it’s only that, but the same sort of deal that Reece signed would have been offered to Mount who clearly wants north of that number
Macallister is the midfielder who seems best suited to playing alongside casemiro from my perspective. He can do all the defensive work required and has a good passing range, and can score goals
I don't know about that, I would rather go with what reliable journalists says about this, not the PR merchants who will be drumming what club wants them to tell (obviously for the perks they get).
Again up to each individual what news they want to believe.
Also talking about Reece James, it's amazing how that 250K is taken as fact when it was reported he is the highest paid defender in Chelsea's history and we all know Koulibaly is earning shit loads of money.
https://theathletic.com/3563197/2022/09/03/reece-james-chelsea-new-deal/
As you say it’s up to each individual what news they want to believe.
Also that link suggests differ to what you appear to be reading
The only of those 3 who sits deep and screens the back line is Jorginho and if you think he and Casemiro are on the same level I'd like to know the name of your dealer
Both Kante and Kovacic play deeper than Bruno and Kante obvously contributes loads defensively but Kovacic also does much more defensively than Bruno. There will be greater emphasis on Mount at United defensively and in deeper positions compared to Chelsea, given the likely midfield combinations.
We should be all over this, Utd fan, relegated team and only a year left on his contract, coming into his prime years. He'd provide the rotation option for Bruno and basically be what Donny failed to be.
Not sure what it is saying different, in the very first line it says he will be the highest paid defender in Chelsea's history,
here is the same guy tweeting about it and as per Chelsea reddit, he is reliable. Covers Chelsea for Atheltic.
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Agree, it would also be pretty stupid to agree an 8 year deal on £200k a week when we have no idea where salaries will be in 3 to 5 years, and that’s before we factor in how Mount may perform over that time.
Why? He's not performing well enough to merrit starting every game. I'm not saying to sell him or anything but right now he could definitely be upgraded. If he performs well he can obviously win back his position which is the whole point of having a squad in the first place
Club signs an expensive player that the manager doesnt prefer
"Why dont we go after players the manager actually wants? waste of money"
Club signs a player that the manager prefers, not the shiny one the fans want
"Why dont we go after more expensive players? the manager is dead wrong on this one"
"Why dont we go after players the manager actually wants? waste of money"
Club signs a player that the manager prefers, not the shiny one the fans want
"Why dont we go after more expensive players? the manager is dead wrong on this one"
Think this will start speeding up next week. Once this games out the way.
Ah, believed to be preparing an offer. Silly season is upon us.
This looks like it’s our 1st signing. Less than 45 mill please
The only reason I can think of not to buy Mount would be that it might use transfer/wages budget needed for a centre-forward.
Mount instead of Eriksen would be a big squad upgrade for me, likeable as Eriksen is he doesn't tackle and gives up on players running past him too often.
Mount instead of Eriksen would be a big squad upgrade for me, likeable as Eriksen is he doesn't tackle and gives up on players running past him too often.
Mount?!
Mount?!
Stop pissing about
These are the signings we can do without
Come on!
Nah, good signing. Will do well for us.
Mount?!
Stop pissing about
These are the signings we can do without
Come on!
Nah, good signing. Will do well for us.
Agreed. We’d get away with having Eriksen against lower opposition for his creativity. Or if we need a goal we can Chuck him on with Bruno and mount. A lot of people was saying that we needed a younger version of Eriksen. Maybe this is it. What’s Mount like creative wise though? Or is he more of a dribbling midfield.
Although Mount's performances haven't been very good this season, he did very well in 21/22 with 13 goals and 16 assists in all competitions.
Maybe ETH feels that he can help him regain that form.
Maybe ETH feels that he can help him regain that form.
If he signs for anything north of £50m I'm expecting his 21/22 output at a minimum.
If it's a reasonable fee - like 50M euros max, then fine. Mount only has 1 year left on his Chelsea contract, hopefully not even United are silly enough to pay huge money for him in that kind of situation.
And while I believe we need more defensive midfielder (that could be Rabiot) than Mount guess he'd fit ten Hag's style of play.
And while I believe we need more defensive midfielder (that could be Rabiot) than Mount guess he'd fit ten Hag's style of play.
Can see us getting Rabiot on a free after Mount.
Mason Mount is hugely overrated. There's a reason why he is not in the Chelsea 11. He is nothing more than a neat and tidy footballer who can do the basics but has no x factor, disappears in games too often and whose end product for me lacks. And I really do think we should be setting our sights higher.
Only one thing would concern me more
..buying the overrated Declan Rice for £100m plus.
Only one thing would concern me more
..buying the overrated Declan Rice for £100m plus.
£30-40m would be a fair price given his contract situation and poor performances last season. Any more than that would be too much.
Totally agree. Mason Mount = Declan Rice. Much ado about zero X Factor. If Mount was £25m, fine. But he will be £55m plus. Surely we have a recruitment team that can - like Brighton - find value in the transfer market.
It is more about the hype. He has been way overrated. Overrated doesn't mean bad. He will be adaptable to the Ten Hag methods but won't give you that X factor that will take us to another level. We as a club have to get away from overpaying for just okay players. We must seek out the best.
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