Tuchel and his inane personnel decisions is what is going on with De ligt.
Matthijs de Ligt
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For the coach not the player.
been wondering when this would rear its head again - next up Frenkie de Jong!
Do you think EtH would want him here at United? You mention his passing isn't spectacular but neither is Varane's (although I feel he gets way too much criticism for this as he's pretty comfortable most of the time). I think I recall people saying De Ligt isn't particularly quick either.
De Ligt is quite fast, but not quick, if that makes any sense. He is a big guy and it takes him time to get up to speed.
And it is not that his passing is bad. It is simply more on the safe side and Tuchel is looking for CBs that play more vertical.
I can only imagine the meltdown from the ETH outers if Utd were to sign De Ligt and De Jong this summer.
Big lad. As slow as Maguire?
No one is that slow
Sooooo....like Maguire
I honestly haven't seen much of De Ligt and all i know is that he was once considered one of the best centre back prospects of his generation before his big moves (the Dutch are producing rather a lot of very good defenders lately i've noticed) but De Jong would be an interesting buy if he could adapt to the league and he had a clear role in the team.
They are a bit of the same type of player. De Ligt just turns slow instead of turning like an oil tanker like Maguire does. De Ligt isnt the fastest but he also isnt turtle-like slow like Maguire is.Sooooo....like Maguire
You don't expect me to watch United games, do you?Sooooo....like Maguire
to be fair they were probably the 2 best in that Ajax team
I’d happily take them both
De Ligt's stock seems like it has gone down quite a bit since he left Ajax. Haven't seen a lot of him recently to judge. De Jong is a no brainer if he's available for a decent fee and wages.
2 more ex Ajax, Eredivisie & ETH players though, there's some people on here whose heads might explode at the thoughts of it.
Bayern fans like him, Juve fans like him. Just Tuchel prefers Kim and Upamecano
Tuchel preferred Eric Dier to him over the weekend. Don't know if that says more about De Ligt or Tuchel.
Personally still think he's a really good defender, just being outcast by Tuchel for some reason.
Personally still think he's a really good defender, just being outcast by Tuchel for some reason.
Wasnt he in the team of the season for the BuLi last year? Tuchel is such a weirdo.
About a month ago, Jonny Evans was preferred to Raphael Varane. Managers are just a peculiar bunch.
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Didn't De Ligt tell Bild he was fine after the game?
Yeah, he was very adamant on the fact that he was fit.
When I saw Dier playing for Bayern the other day it was a massive WTF moment. I understand United's standards have fallen but it's hard to believe Bayern would stoop so low as to have Dier on their squad. I'd have Lindelof over Dier without a moment's hesitation.
Per Martesacker may want a say in the claim of slowest defender ever.
That remains with Pascal Cygan and the Legendary Laurent Blanc
Per Mertesaker next to Tony Adams, Carragher auxillary RB and, naturally, Lindelof left back.
Van Buyten sweeping behind them
Then ask them to play a high line
CarnageThen ask them to play a high line
Yeah, Blanc might actually have been going backwards. Henning Berg wasn’t exactly a rocket either.
That would be epic. Have a prime Ronaldo, Mbappe and Henry have a go at them.
Antony would still swivel and turn back.
Lindelof is a funny one - he doesn’t look that slow, but when running against others in a foot race you realise that he might just be slower than Maguire.
Blanc was super slow from the start of his career. Yet he was an impeccable attack minded defender. Its incredible really
No. Lindeloff is definitely quicker than Maguire.
Put Adams with Blanc. I don't care how fast your forwards are. If the fullbacks are intelligent, y'all ain't getting through without going through hell with offsides...
Or maybe they know more than us...?
I did consider that possibility, but it threatened my ego.
Key question remains, is his dad still fat or has he slimmed down?
We can’t be taking a chance if his father is still chonky.
We can’t be taking a chance if his father is still chonky.
Still slow as feck though, and more often than Maguire he's seen chasing an attacker only to fall further behind every time. If Maguire at least is able to make contact with the attacker, he has a chance. Lindelof is brushed aside by Martin Ødegaard - which is only fair as Ødegaard is Norwegian, and Lindelöf is Swedish, so there's a natural power discrepancy there.
Well, I mean, a man's hair is to be judged by their mother's father, so perhaps we should look into the entire family tree for chonky people? Especially on the mother's side. His father may not even be his father, so it may well turn out either a dead end or a Darth Vader moment, and remember that Darth Vader is actually a Dutch translation of Father, so really, there's a pretty fair chance this may well be the case. Of course, he was lacking three limbs, so that's a concern, and he had massive anger issues as well.
I’d be surprised if we went in for him. Expensive, high wages and questionable attributes (speed and passing) for the way ETH wants us to play now.
I’d be pretty gutted if we blew a load of budget on him.
I’d be pretty gutted if we blew a load of budget on him.