The team managed to reach the CL final and semi final in the past 2 years, and it was inferior on paper because we added Hakimi, Wijnaldum, Ramos, Nuno Mendes and Messi. Are we favourite for the CL title? No, but with a proper coaching and strong choices, it's not as unlikely as imagining United winning it.
I predicted that PSG would win the CL this season and I’m sticking with that. But now I’m wondering if they need a new manager to ensure that victory.The team managed to reach the CL final and semi final in the past 2 years, and it was inferior on paper because we added Hakimi, Wijnaldum, Ramos, Nuno Mendes and Messi. Are we favourite for the CL title? No, but with a proper coaching and strong choices, it's not as unlikely as imagining United winning it.
I think that this sort of starting XI is clearly superior (at least on paper) to anything United can offer :
Ewwww. Weirdo
A lot of PSG fans active online share your sceptism. I am not convinced by Poch as far as I'm concerned.
Don't watch your team nowhere near enough to make any judgment so would like to hear from PSG supporter why's that?
I also believe a system with 3 central defenders is the way to go because we know Messi/Neymar/Mbapp as a unit is limited in terms of defensive contribution.The team managed to reach the CL final and semi final in the past 2 years, and it was inferior on paper because we added Hakimi, Wijnaldum, Ramos, Nuno Mendes and Messi. Are we favourite for the CL title? No, but with a proper coaching and strong choices, it's not as unlikely as imagining United winning it.
I think that this sort of starting XI is clearly superior (at least on paper) to anything United can offer :
They dont have the balance that you typically associate with a Poch side. The front 3 aren't contributing defensively and if you have these many players who are passengers out of possession, any team would struggle
Last year, PSG finished 2nd.
Yeah it good go both ways, the thing is, Marquinos will be far better a compensating on the right side since he's faster and younger than ramos, guess both could work. Or maybe it'll never happen if Ramos never comes back...
Yea, I bet if psg lost, you and the others would have quoted me the same way. I only did it so, you would see how childish it is. Some fans on here doesn’t learn, so it seems speaking their language is a more effective approach. Anyway, No worries, I believe what I see and I have done this before where I have been right. I will just let the football speak for itself and let you come to a realization Without me helping you see it.
Really!
People keep saying that but that doesn’t explain the entirety of the bad performances. They don’t seem to have a clue with the ball either. Very disjointed and can’t retain possession. Not clear at all what system he’s trying to play. It’s ugly at the moment but they’re still winning. Which is either a good sign or a bad sign, I’m not sure.
Maybe before we appointed Ole on a full contract, but you'd be mad to take Poch over Conte now. They're different calibre of managers
I’ve never been a big Poch guy. He clearly has ability as a manager (more than someone like Ole for example), but he always seemed to fall short with Spurs at the most crucial times. He still hasn’t won a major trophy in his managerial career (apart from the French Cup) and he’s had quite a few chances, albeit without super-elite squads in many cases.
It's not really open for discussion about Poch because he's going nowhere now. It may well be Conte but he's not my first choice. However, he will certainly do better job than Ole but that's not difficult is it.
You are not alone, I don't get it either.
He's an insanely overrated manager and a serial loser
At least if he is the one the club want they're sticking with a long term target rather than just going for who's available or fashionable
On the other hand it seems like some people are desperate for him to fail. Fair enough, his PSG stint hasn't been a success so far, but he transformed Tottenham from average side in 2014 to very good team in 2019 without spending too much. They played some nice football as well. I think anyone will agree his time at Spurs was a success, even though he failed to win anything. Same goes for his time at Southampton. Can he do it at a top club is another question.
I am starting to question if that was really him though? The emergence of Harry Kane and Alli to a degree, seemed to be a lot more to do with Spurs' success than anything else. He didn't really leave a legacy or a particular style of play at either team and I'm struggling to see what he adds to teams. It certainly isn't success.
I've got no problems people questioning Poch's top level but what you've posted is just wrong, giving him no credit for the form of Kane or Ali? No style of play? Come off it
That's a VERY naive take. Messi and Ronaldo at their prime could pretty much do whatever they wanted, even Neymar when he was in spain (his sister's birthday, carnival in brazil etc. all of that originated when he was at Barcelona). Cristiano left the stadium at Juventus before the end of a game after he was subbed without any repercussion, Bayern player's got Ancelotti fired etc. In most clubs, players have too much power.
So does he get criticism for Alli's form falling off a cliff? I don't think anyone get's much credit for Kane, other than Kane if I'm honest. You stick him in any side and he was performing. The style of play associated with Poch is no different to what Ole produced against Spurs, so I'm not really convinced it's anything to be particularly bothered about.
So on Ali your answer is a question? You want to give Poch no credit for his good form for a good few years but want to blame him for the decline?
Because people who knows football see what he has accomplished and why he is so rated highly in the footballing world. Look at Spurs after he left. They are a complete mess. And it seems like the only fix there is to a hire a real top manager like Conte to return them back to that period of success. However, we will have to see how conte do first if he is to be hired there.
I was merely trying to set out the parameters, because I would say Alli's decline is largely to do with Alli, so whilst he did well to set up a system that worked for Alli at the time, he didn't exactly set it up to last for very long so where does the buck stop?
