This is pretty much factual. The performances have not been good if you watch the games. And they weren’t good last season either. Poch clung onto the job after losing the French league (a huge failure) because of a handful of good performances in the Champions League.His PSG across last and current season is the weakest the club has been this last decade. Their insane luck this year is poised to end sooner rather than later, as they can't keep winning games at the last minutes through dubious penalty calls the whole season, and then they'll be open to a full-blown humiliation ala MU - Liverpool.
There was some semblance of hope last year, most notably Barcelona away, the Bayern tie and the first half of City home, where they played some tremendous football, but this year they've struggled against almost all teams they've played (for the record I must have missed 3 of their games at most this year).
They shouldn't be playing for a draw at Marseille and come out of it relieved but that's where they're at right now.
What’s average about what he did with Spurs or Southampton? He got to a CL final with no money for transfers when Tottenham have barely even qualified for the competition in their history before or after him? Tottenham are not a top 4 team in England, never mind Europe, not even close. That was a big achievement. They were the worst team and the least prestigious team to make the Champions League final in the past decade and he got them there.It is bizarre being on the outside looking in. A very large club with a history of winning and a good many of their fans enamored over an average manager that has not really accomplished anything. Came close, but could not follow it with anything.
Tuchel definitely did a better job than Poch has done so far.Tunchel was far from a failure at PSG, it was his lack of Champions League success that got him the sack, I rate Poch highly and like him A LOT but he has major flaws which some people fail to acknowledge.
Ohhhhh i see who is in your defence again? Ligue 1 has went backwards this year, all the top sides have regressed.You do realize that you sometimes have to defend in football, like when the other team gets the ball? Any team who successfully plays with a front 4 has players with a high workrate. It's not even remotely the case for Messi/MBappé/Neymar/Di Maria. The fact that Neymar is the one defending the most tells you plenty.
Have you watched the games?Yes and he’s winning the league by 8 points already and won 12 of his 15 games this season?
He controls games and keeps clean sheets. Hes more than just an improved version of Ole. He plays a completely different system in fact.Didn't Tuchel leave them in first place? Even further, this season, despite the results, Tuchel has not impressed one bit. He's basically an improved version of Ole in how he has his team playing.
This year it might be the highest concentration of "hard to manage" players yes but I thought this was a general statement about PSG. The Messi/Piqué/Busquets influence was probably worse for Barcelona last season for exemple.But in all of those examples the players aren’t there anymore? For two of the examples (Messi, Neymar) they’re at PSG right now. I honestly don’t think there’s another club in Europe right now with those kinds of personalities, at least not throughout the team rather than the odd one or two.
11.500+ messages on a football forum and you still don't know that you don't only defend with 4 players, that's...sad.Ohhhhh i see who is in your defence again? Ligue 1 has went backwards this year, all the top sides have regressed.
what's your feelings on Poch? Want him gone? Think he'll be gone soon/end of the season?This year it might be the highest concentration of "hard to manage" players yes but I thought this was a general statement about PSG. The Messi/Piqué/Busquets influence was probably worse for Barcelona last season for exemple.
11.500+ messages on a football forum and you still don't know that you don't only defend with 4 players, that's...sad.
And Ligue 1 didn't go backward, yes some of the top teams have regressed (as usual) but other have improved. Ligue 1 clubs have only lost 1 game out of 18 in european competition this season so far. The overall level is the best i've seen in years even if we still lack some consistant teams to bother PSG every season. To be honest, PSG doesn't deserve to be 10 points ahead at all, 3 or 4 would be far more logical if we look at our performances.
I will let you do this, you list PSGs 4 defenders and 2 CMs against say..... Marseille, its nothing to do with players its coaching. PSG don't deserve their points total simple because Poch cant get them playing as a team. Their elite attack isn't scoring to their optimum and their defence is lazy. Poch is a progressive manager, he's stubborn, he's lets that attack go it will steam roll Ligue 1.This year it might be the highest concentration of "hard to manage" players yes but I thought this was a general statement about PSG. The Messi/Piqué/Busquets influence was probably worse for Barcelona last season for exemple.
11.500+ messages on a football forum and you still don't know that you don't only defend with 4 players, that's...sad.
And Ligue 1 didn't go backward, yes some of the top teams have regressed (as usual) but other have improved. Ligue 1 clubs have only lost 1 game out of 18 in european competition this season so far. The overall level is the best i've seen in years even if we still lack some consistant teams to bother PSG every season. To be honest, PSG doesn't deserve to be 10 points ahead at all, 3 or 4 would be far more logical if we look at our performances.
Conte seems Spurs bound.PSG can do us a solid by sacking him and appointing Conte. Conte whopping Neymar's ass would be so fun to watch.
I was pretty open to the idea when he arrived. But after 10 months, I still have no idea of what he's trying to do with the team and some of his choices are plain stupid. Unless there's huge earthquake (like not qualifying for the final stage of the CL), I see him getting fired at the end of the season. I don't know who we could pick as a replacement though, but if Guardiola is available, the owner will do everything to get him and Pochettino doesn't have a chance.what's your feelings on Poch? Want him gone? Think he'll be gone soon/end of the season?
3 wins? They were 11-2-4 when Tuchel left, I think a point or two behind Lille and Monaco.I would call it a lazy and premature evaluation given he took over after Tuchel only managed 3 wins in December and was off the boil in the league.
If Poch cant deliver a title in his first full season with PSG then sure, go nuts.
Well I can ask that question and still question Poch's effectiveness, in conjunction. My statement literally read I'm questioning his effectiveness. I'm framing this all in the lens of him coming here and I don't see what he achieved at soton would be any different with Potter is achieving at Brighton, so is that not a better choice? I also don't think considering his squad at Spurs, he achieved anything better than Rodgers has done at Leicester.well if that's what you're asking now then it's different to what you started by saying which was downplaying everything he did at Spurs
you now also seem to be using the fact that a lot of managers adopt a style Poch brought in years prior as a stick to beat him with?
I'm not even massively pro Poch but your arguments against him are ridiculous
Leonardo had a very complicated relationship with Tuchel, that's the main reason he was sacked. Yes the team didn't look too good but it wasn't surprising considering that they only had a 1 week break after the CL final + COVID + injuries, but everybody knows that it's Leonardo who pushed very hard to fire Tuchel and didn't give him any kind of support.3 wins? They were 11-2-4 when Tuchel left, I think a point or two behind Lille and Monaco.
Ancelotti, Tuchel and Blanc did very well and are regarded as such. Emery and now Pochettino not so much because the team plays poorly.Managing PSG should be deleted from every managers CV.
Everyone who goes there seems to be a failure.
Tuchel
Ancelotti
Blanc
Emery
Pochettino
They all can’t be crap managers !
How much of that season do you say was Poch, and how much to Kane and others having a great season? If it was Poch, he should have built on that success. He faced injuries but he had no solutions. How many trophies has he won? He is another coach that has a resume of great potential. Should a club as big as Man Utd want that resume?What’s average about what he did with Spurs or Southampton? He got to a CL final with no money for transfers when Tottenham have barely even qualified for the competition in their history before or after him? Tottenham are not a top 4 team in England, never mind Europe, not even close. That was a big achievement. They were the worst team and the least prestigious team to make the Champions League final in the past decade and he got them there.
Tuchel was definitely not a failure there. Six trophies and second in the CL final and then won it the next year with Chelsea.Managing PSG should be deleted from every managers CV.
Everyone who goes there seems to be a failure.
Tuchel
Ancelotti
Blanc
Emery
Pochettino
They all can’t be crap managers !
The German tactician spent two years at the helm of the French club, in which time he won six major trophies, as well as finishing second in the Champions League in 2019/20.
Apologies I had the wrong stats there. My broader point stands though3 wins? They were 11-2-4 when Tuchel left, I think a point or two behind Lille and Monaco.
Well he is a better manager than Ole that's for sure.His PSG team lucky to only be only 1-0 down after 10 mins with Silva missing a penalty,
Whatever you think about Ole, Poch is not the one to carry us forward
Why is that the criteria for our new manager ? Personally I think Rodger’s is also a better manager but I still don’t think he would take us to a new level that allows us to compete for trophiesWell he is a better manager than Ole that's for sure.
Lets appoint Steve Bruce thenWell he is a better manager than Ole that's for sure.
I didn't say it was but we have left ourselves short of options now.Why is that the criteria for our new manager ? Personally I think Rodger’s is also a better manager but I still don’t think he would take us to a new level that allows us to compete for trophies
1-2 up now though, away from home, by this point versus Leipzig away in the group last season, we were soon down 0-3 and heading to the Europa League. Poch is currently leading his CL group, is undefeated in it, and it's a group with City/Pep in it.His PSG team lucky to only be only 1-0 down after 10 mins with Silva missing a penalty,
Whatever you think about Ole, Poch is not the one to carry us forward
That's not exactly a high bar though.Well he is a better manager than Ole that's for sure.
PSG are Oleing this group to be fair.1-2 up now though, away from home, by this point versus Leipzig away in the group last season, we were soon down 0-3 and heading to the Europa League. Poch is leading his CL group and it has City in it.
Mbappe should have killed it off then as well with the one on one1-2 up now though, away from home, by this point versus Leipzig away in the group last season, we were soon down 0-3 and heading to the Europa League. Poch is currently leading his CL group, is undefeated in it, and it's a group with City/Pep in it.
Nar, even when he’s a bit shit and can’t seem to make his mark on his squad, he’s still miles better than Ole, no matter what picture some like to paint.PSG are Oleing this group to be fair.
He's a better fit for us than ConteHis PSG team lucky to only be only 1-0 down after 10 mins with Silva missing a penalty,
Whatever you think about Ole, Poch is not the one to carry us forward
Yeah but they drew the first game and fell behind both times against RBL. By all accounts a red should have been shown after the pen that was missed so god knows what amount of luck was involved there.Nar, even when he’s a bit shit and can’t seem to make his mark on his squad, he’s still miles better than Ole, no matter what picture some like to paint.
So it’s everyone’s fault but him. What is up with you man? Like seriously go seek help.This psg squad isn’t getting the best out of him. He needs a clinical striker and players who have high work ethic And are hungry. Haland is perfect for him.
You’d think a great coach would get the most out one of the most talented squads in the world?This psg squad isn’t getting the best out of him. He needs a clinical striker and players who have high work ethic And are hungry. Haland is perfect for him.
He only has 3 of the top forwards in world football.So it’s everyone’s fault but him. What is up with you man? Like seriously go seek help.
Isn’t he the one suppose to get the best out of that squad? You make no sense.
When players don’t want to run and miss easy goalscoring chances, that is the players fault. Once again, Psg should be ahead by much more if their attackers could finish. It is a consistent theme that I have been noticing. Nothing to do with Pochettino With this regard.So it’s everyone’s fault but him. What is up with you man? Like seriously go seek help.
Isn’t he the one suppose to get the best out of that squad? You make no sense.
He is doing better than most great coach would do. Not complaining about result, but more so the players that suits Pochettino’s philosophy more.You’d think a great coach would get the most out one of the most talented squads in the world?
I suppose if anyone didn't think you were playing a character already, this sentence should be enough to convince them. I honestly don't believe you even rate Pochettino as a manager, I reckon if you did you wouldn't be leaning so heavily into this façade.This psg squad isn’t getting the best out of him. He needs a clinical striker and players who have high work ethic And are hungry. Haland is perfect for him.
Are you even watching the game? Leipzig has had way more chances to score than PSG including a missed penalty.When players don’t want to run and miss easy goalscoring chances, that is the players fault. Once again, Psg should be ahead by much more if their attackers could finish. It is a consistent theme that I have been noticing. Nothing to do with Pochettino With this regard.
So 3 world class striker isn’t enough? Isnt the argument that great coaches get most of the squad they have?This psg squad isn’t getting the best out of him. He needs a clinical striker and players who have high work ethic And are hungry. Haland is perfect for him.
