Must be heartbreaking for Argentinian fans right now, but I hope they don't blame Messi for this.
Next year they have the Copa America, and i'd say that's a must win.
Next year they have the Copa America, and i'd say that's a must win.
Messi at the World Cup - No Ronaldo comparisons!
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Messi, the tournaments best player 
Consolation prize.
Sponsors vote that, absolutely ridiculous.
WHAT!?
Well done Fifa, well done. Really doing everything in their power to destroy all credibility.
Messi is one of the best ever.
The question I've always had is whether that Barcelona team is perfectly suited to him thus allowing him to express his absolute best, most players don't have this luxury, so when he is put in a team that isn't perfectly suited to his game then does that no longer make him the best in the world?
He won't leave Barcelona and they have world class talent constantly looking to feed Messi. In my opinion he needs to do better for Argentina at the world cup to show he is unarguably the very best in his generation because thus far he looks a different player and you get the impression when he isn't in a team perfectly suited to his game he is not the best in the world.
He will have one more chance, in the mean time he has to do what he can to ensure he gets back to his best next season.
That said, he just won player of the tournament so perhaps he was better than what I saw.
The question I've always had is whether that Barcelona team is perfectly suited to him thus allowing him to express his absolute best, most players don't have this luxury, so when he is put in a team that isn't perfectly suited to his game then does that no longer make him the best in the world?
He won't leave Barcelona and they have world class talent constantly looking to feed Messi. In my opinion he needs to do better for Argentina at the world cup to show he is unarguably the very best in his generation because thus far he looks a different player and you get the impression when he isn't in a team perfectly suited to his game he is not the best in the world.
He will have one more chance, in the mean time he has to do what he can to ensure he gets back to his best next season.
That said, he just won player of the tournament so perhaps he was better than what I saw.
Should have gone to Chamez!
This is exactly like the bpitw award. Just give it to the most popular player...pffft
In fairness to Messi, Maradona played in a far less competitive time, outside the big name teams there is far more good international teams today, there was only 16 teams in 1978 and 24 in 1986, Maradona beats him at international level but for his club side Messi has been far better. Overall Messi > Maradona.
That's just ridiculous.
That´s also my opinion. Something wrong with him. Lack of energy and puking. He will probably be "crucified" now but i think he had a good tournament. He really needs a long vacation.
He clearly hasn't. How about we compare the performance of muller, one of the other contenders for best player of this tournament, to him today. What did muller exactly do? Messi threatened, beat defenders, was a threat. Muller did feck all. That's basically all to do with expectation. Messi had a very good tournament, blighted by some weird physical issues. But because it's nowhere near his usual top level, it's considered bad.
Nah. It was a joke. As an adult, I don't think your idol footballer/team achievements is something you should be proud of. I agreed that they bring immense pleasure for yourself, though.
As if he's won the Golden Ball. Completely mental decision and exactly what makes me sick of the Messi wankfest that goes on despite he himself clearly being a fairly decent bloke and obviously a brilliant footballer.
Yep, I think that's inevitable.
Not sure if that's serious.. You mention Messi's club success as a reason why he's better than Maradona, when Messi has played in the most dominant club team of all time and Maradona played for a Napoli side which had never once won the league before Maradona, and has never won it again since Maradona left.
Messi deserves Golden Balls!
Overall he has a good WC but not a great one.. Winning the golden balls is really a joke.
I was also just joking. Was hoping to get a good response from Amol.
Messi is the biggest reason they were the most dominant club of all time.
This is actually insulting to messi because i'm sure even he knows he doesn't deserve it.
No he wasn't.
He hasn't done much in the knockout stage... where best player of the tournament usually delivers
nah, it was Mascherano.
Messi wan't the biggest ingredient in Barcelona's success?
I would have said he was.
I would have said he was.
Xavi was just as important.
Its ridiculous the standard he's held to isn't it?
As you said, compare him to Muller who did fek all tonight.
Cristiano who stunk up the place and missed 6 sitters that would have seen his team advance from the group stages.
Robben who was awful in his last match.
Rooney who was woeful all tournament.
If these are his competition for the best in the world tag, he's arguably outperformed all of them. And still gets castigated at every turn.
Did you even watch Argentina at the WC/Tonight?
By your logic he could carry any team, it's not as if Argentina are that limited either.
A laughably biased disservice to Xavi, Iniesta, Puyol, Pique, Busquets, Sanchez, Fabregas and almost every other Barca player and even more importantly, managers and coaches.
Again, laughable.
You're very defensive when it comes to Messi. Really strange.
You're also kidding yourself if you think Napoli were anything like as good as Barcelona. It's not really a contentious point, Maradona faced a far tougher level of competition than Messi did at club level. At their peak Barcelona were better than every team they faced whereas Napoli were just one team in a competitive league.
I should have said one of the biggest reasons. There were other important factors like guardiolas tactis, iniesta and xavi in midfield etc
Should never have gotten it, and I very much doubt he even wanted the award.
Overall he has had a good tournament. He played well tonight and looked dangerous whenever he had the ball.
I feel sorry for messi, but the right team have won the WC
Overall he has had a good tournament. He played well tonight and looked dangerous whenever he had the ball.
I feel sorry for messi, but the right team have won the WC
I'm amazed people are actually willing to dispute that claim.
When did I say that exactly?
Even if he were the biggest reason it's not by much, Iniesta and Xavi are also incredibly big reasons.
Obviously wasn't the best player, but he was still good without a doubt. He shouldn't come in for too much criticism, none of the Argentina team should really, they came pretty close.
There's a lot of messi hate on the caf. I know given I used to take part in it a tad.