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City.
While I think that he will stay at Barca as it’s him against the current board, there will probably be a fan revolt and he will end up staying and quite a few above will go - including Koeman.
However, I feel for the Barca hierarchy as Messi pretty much holds them to ransom all the time and when he doesn’t get his way he holds a gun to their head.....he is 33 now and nobody can argue he has been the best player ever but his best days are behind him and he is costing upwards of £1m a week - they don’t seem to be able to plan for the future without his say so and managers come and go based on what he thinks of them.....
there has never been a clearer example of a player being bigger than the club
I’m not sure he could mentally adapt to anywhere else as he has been institutionalised at Barca and I doubt his impact would be anywhere near as effective as at Barca - maybe in an easier league but I doubt he could easily transition to the Prem and city - 20 years at the same place in the same league does make change difficult even if you’ve been as good as he has been......
that’s why I think it’s just a smokescreen and power play at Barca......and I reckon he will win
Messi's on 1.3m weekly.
I think he’s not going to leave the club he runs. It’s a battle for power. Messi runs the club, Bartomeu gets the stick. Elected vs shadow government.
Of course, as things stand in social network driven world (read Barca), Messi is going to win. Legally, he can’t use contract termination clause until June 2021. Thus, his bureau fax is a declaration of war, not a way out.
Barca lemmings will follow their leader. Messi is destroying the great club.
A lesson for every club: “The Club is always bigger than a player” principle should be enforced and maintained at all costs.
So maybe, just maybe the guy isn't this evil genius of Machavellian dimensions but just a 33 year old player that is unhappy with the way the club is run, has given up hope for improvements and don't wants to spend his last career years (and title chances) on saving the arse of a president he and many of their fans despise.
Such a sad state of affairs that small clubs like City and PSG are the ones he would go to. Honestly even if it’s not united it would be nice to see him at somewhere like Juve or Bayern. Even though that is obviously impossible.
Such a sad post from you as well though. Ok, both of those clubs are built unfairly the last ten years, but let’s not pretend it’s going to change in the future. Money talks, sports is economics and the market powers rule, as in any other popular sport. A lot of clubs in the Prem now have new, untraditional ownerships, will your grudge last forever?
Calling PSG and City small clubs in 2020 is pretty lame, I assume you would put Villa and Nottingham Forest above both of them and wonder why players don’t agree? Sorry, both clubs are now big players and much better clubs/football teams than United - if not «bigger».
City and PSG are not bigger than United.
But you don't realize the gist of his post.
City and PSG have been state funded. It'd be such a joke if literally the best player since Maradona goes to either of them.
What even becomes of the sport then?
Your living in the past.
This! The point it is how sad it is that the only realistic options are 2 state funded teams. Maybe I shouldn’t have referred to them as “small clubs”, but the point still stands.City and PSG are not bigger than United.
But you don't realize the gist of his post.
City and PSG have been state funded. It'd be such a joke if literally the best player since Maradona goes to either of them.
What even becomes of the sport then?
A sad post from me when you agree that they were both built unfairly? Sure mate. When did I say that it will change in the future?Such a sad post from you as well though. Ok, both of those clubs are built unfairly the last ten years, but let’s not pretend it’s going to change in the future. Money talks, sports is economics and the market powers rule, as in any other popular sport. A lot of clubs in the Prem now have new, untraditional ownerships, will your grudge last forever?
Calling PSG and City small clubs in 2020 is pretty lame, I assume you would put Villa and Nottingham Forest above both of them and wonder why players don’t agree? Sorry, both clubs are now big players and much better clubs/football teams than United - if not «bigger».
It's you're*
And what is that directed towards? Which part?
Well done, your fantastic with you're grammar.
Pretty much all of it. Especially the second half. Most people don't care anymore. The world is corrupt, football is corrupt, there's tainted money everywhere, nothing we can do - just entertain us. That's where the sport is now, and how it will be going forward.
That’s fine, so we aren’t allowed to express our disappointment at that being how football is?Well done, your fantastic with you're grammar.
Pretty much all of it. Especially the second half. Most people don't care anymore. The world is corrupt, football is corrupt, there's tainted money everywhere, nothing we can do - just entertain us. That's where the sport is now, and how it will be going forward.
PSG is not bigger than Mancheter United.
However, PSG is the biggest football club in France.
This! The point it is how sad it is that the only realistic options are 2 state funded teams. Maybe I shouldn’t have referred to them as “small clubs”, but the point still stands.
A sad post from me when you agree that they were both built unfairly? Sure mate. When did I say that it will change in the future?
Anyway this is derailing the thread pm me if you want to carry on the debate.
We could too.
So you think PSG and City are bigger in stature than Manchester United?
Are you wumming?
That’s fine, so we aren’t allowed to express our disappointment at that being how football is?
Like feck they are, they were founded just 50 years ago. Marseille are the bigger club by a long way, although every year that goes by wipes all that out. No doubt PSG are to be the biggest club in France by every measure soon enough.
L-O-L
Please do some research about PSG/OM as you did for Covid-19
Marseille was relegated in 1992/1993 because they did corrupt players and referees at the domestic and European level.
PSG and Marseille are the two only French clubs than won a European cup, bot not in the same way!
Marseille never dominated the league over a long period of time as PSG and Lyon did.
I mean theoretically we could though. If we’re going to pay the best part of £70 Million up front for Sancho even without his wages or whatever it will be then we could afford that in wages.Can we feck pay what Messi would be demanding in wages.
We can't even go the extra 10m to sign Sancho
Let's wait what the courts will say. As far as I know, outrunning player contracts were extended beyond June 10, weren't they? So I assume there are good arguments for extending such clauses, too. The way this story unfolds it seems as if the chances for courts supporting the interpretation of Messi's party are pretty likely. I also don't think they had done this if their attorneys didn't tell them they've got good chances.
I’m an 80’s kid and a massive Waddle fan, I know the history.
That would be the biggest wet fart possible.