Valdano (Madrid sporting director) has just said that Real Madrid have made a "reasonable" offer for Ozil and that it's been rejected.
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So the rumour (12 mio. offer from Madrid) was indeed right.
Note to SAF...
please sign this player to end this thread.
please sign this player to end this thread.
let the bidding begin...
What rumour was that? and how has it been proven right? Did Valdano say they offered 12m?
Edit: All I can find on Valdano is during Carvalho unveiling he said they aren't done spending but, couldn't confirm anything on Ozil - all he said was
"There could be new signings and the club are open to all different possibilities but I can't name more possibilities in regards to who."
One of the newspaper correspondents posted it - I don't know whether it was Honigstein or someone else. Of course it's not been "proven" - but he was adamant that Real had offered 12 mio. and today Valdano comes out and confirms they had made an offer, so it's sort of a conformation of the rumour.
Ok - all I am finding on Valdano is saying that he isn't naming an possibilities of who they are looking at.
Jorge Valdano: Spending doesn't stop with Ricardo Carvalho - Transfers - ESPN Soccernet
Not finding what jojojo reported that Valdano said they made a reasonable offer and it was rejected.
Jorge Valdano: Spending doesn't stop with Ricardo Carvalho - Transfers - ESPN Soccernet
Not finding what jojojo reported that Valdano said they made a reasonable offer and it was rejected.
Jojojo has a pretty good command of Spanish as far as I know, so you might not find it in the English news but in the Spanish ones.
Ok - google failed me ... I just searched for Valdano Ozil - figured it would catch any articles in Spanish as well.
this one isnt happening lads time to end the thread
It was on Spanish telly during the Madrid Munich friendly tonight - it'll probably show up on the web soon.
Here's one
El Bremen rechaza la oferta del Madrid por Ozil | Fútbol | elmundo.es
I've not heard any figures.
On Twitter somebody is finding it "incredibly difficult for me to stay loyal to Man Utd right now" because we've signed Bebe and not Ozil 
Valdano had this to say (translated with Google):
Name of the twitter account? PM please.On Twitter somebody is finding it "incredibly difficult for me to stay loyal to Man Utd right now" because we've signed Bebe and not Ozil
Daniel Taylor from the Times confirms it, too:
Thanks jojojojojojojo. Wonder if he is trying to egg us on now ... well you jumped when we sniffed around Bebe, lets see if you jump when we say we are sniffing at Ozil.
Someone's telling me that offers for both Ozil and Khedira were made during the World Cup. Unconfirmed of course.
OK Mr Ballague, I take it you're ITK?
It's hardly suprising, the world is full of fickle twatsOn Twitter somebody is finding it "incredibly difficult for me to stay loyal to Man Utd right now" because we've signed Bebe and not Ozil
Not at all, I know someone who claims to be one, though. High degree of improbability.Well he's going to Real then. There is no competing with them if they are interested in signing Ozil.
So have we signed the cnut yet?
I hope he goes to Barca.
Would be worth it to see the reaction on here.
I hope he goes to Barca.
Would be worth it to see the reaction on here.
He dreams of Madrid apparently
If he is holding out for a move to Real then let him. feck the Pratt! Let his career go down the shit pan just like Benzema before him!
But what is the lure of that den of clowns?
You know not every player wants to go to that shower of shite. Especially when the only reason he's being considered is because of Kaka's injury.
It seems like Madrid are interested but not to the point where they are going to invest an enormous amount in the boy. Like Bebe, he's worth a look, but if its not a good price then they won't bother.
Madrid are a ridiculously stacked team.
Momo, Lass, Xabi, Gaga, Khedira for 2 positions in the middle, 2 of Diarra's/Gago will get sold I assume.
Then Di Maria, Kaka, VdVaart, Granero, Pedro AND Ozil for another 2 positions as Higuain/Benzema and Ronaldo will always be set.
People said he's making a bad decision going to Barca, but they aren't as stacked as Real. Either Ozil won't take the move, or Kaka is going to be mega pissed since even if VdVaart gets sold, it makes him the vulnerable one from this move.
Momo, Lass, Xabi, Gaga, Khedira for 2 positions in the middle, 2 of Diarra's/Gago will get sold I assume.
Then Di Maria, Kaka, VdVaart, Granero, Pedro AND Ozil for another 2 positions as Higuain/Benzema and Ronaldo will always be set.
People said he's making a bad decision going to Barca, but they aren't as stacked as Real. Either Ozil won't take the move, or Kaka is going to be mega pissed since even if VdVaart gets sold, it makes him the vulnerable one from this move.
Beats me buddy. The (alleged)prestige of playing for Real I guess.
I bet alot has to do with the shit advice they get - their advisors would rather their player goto Real or Barca and fail there and leave after 2 years as it means another transfer negotiation and fees for the agent.
I don't have the exact figures, but the tax rates in Spain compared to England mean that the same salary is worth much more in Spain than in England. Coupled with the sunny weather and there's at least two reasons why they're an attractive team to play for, not to mention the opportunity of playing with players of the caliber of Kaka and Ronaldo.
The new Benzema... I can see it.
If we are competeing with Madrid for Ozil,we have no chance.
He's a Barca fan and has always followed la Liga, so it's certainly not only up to his agents. But you are right, in a certain way they are messing around with him, which is probably the main factor in why he's running his contract down.
I fear for the man if he doesn't get a transfer sorted in the next 2 weeks. He's obviously at the end of his leash with Bremen. So it's best to get out now rather than risk having a serious slump next season while running down his contract.
Obviously, the Werder fans are a bit bemused because if you nurture a player and support him, you'll expect him not to run down his contract - particularly because Bremen really need the money.
But they had enough time to get used to the thought that he might run his contract down, in fact he's always said that he'll probably see out his contract so for most fans his stance is nothing new. He's greedy or let me put it this way he might have greedy agents, but he's a model professional, focused and when the season starts, his heart will very much be in it.
And let's put it into perspective: Yes, it's a bit douchey to run a contract down and I'd be very disappointed if a United player did the same. But at the end of the day, it's not illegal and it's up to him. He's hardly talked about other clubs and just keeps on repeating that he wants to honour his contract and that he's focused - so if you look at it this way, he hasn't done anything wrong. They are used to much bigger pricks (e.g. Klose), so I expect them to support him despite being bemused that he hasn't extended his contract.
Werder Bremen have rejected a formal offer from Real Madrid for German World Cup star Mesut Ozil .
Real Madrid director Jorge Valdano confirmed the bid last night and said it had been dismissed by the Bundesliga outfit.
Werder are said to want 16 million euros for the player, who is out of contract in June 2011.
However, AS said negotiations for the 21-year-old midfield maestro were far from being over, and that Real would make every effort to advance the deal so that Ozil is not cup tied for the Champions League by playing in this coming week’s playoff against Sampdoria.
Valdano is in constant contact with Werder Bremen president Klaus Allofs, said the paper.
Özil has also been linked with Manchester United and Chelsea, but Real Madrid appear to be winning the race for his signature.
Real Madrid director Jorge Valdano confirmed the bid last night and said it had been dismissed by the Bundesliga outfit.
Werder are said to want 16 million euros for the player, who is out of contract in June 2011.
However, AS said negotiations for the 21-year-old midfield maestro were far from being over, and that Real would make every effort to advance the deal so that Ozil is not cup tied for the Champions League by playing in this coming week’s playoff against Sampdoria.
Valdano is in constant contact with Werder Bremen president Klaus Allofs, said the paper.
Özil has also been linked with Manchester United and Chelsea, but Real Madrid appear to be winning the race for his signature.
It would be a silly move to RM unless he fancies that he will replace Kaka permanently?
I sincerely hope not, I want to see this guy dominate worlds.
Not necessarily, in fact if he had half a clue it'd be the other way around.
At United he could have a team built around him, at Madrid he's going to be competing with Ronaldo, Kaka and co for a starting position. He's what United need. Though having said all this I'd really fecking hate to see United sign him for that reason... But part of me would much rather that than him sign for Madrid.
As has been mentioned before, Benzema might be a good example to other players of why not to choose Real. On the other hand, they do have Mourinho now.
Now Madrid have shown their hand I fully expect him to go there
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