No idea. I only watch United and sometimes a few Bundesliga games.Isn't there some Portuguese fella that is quite similar, Neves or something like that? Never watched him.
No idea. I only watch United and sometimes a few Bundesliga games.Isn't there some Portuguese fella that is quite similar, Neves or something like that? Never watched him.
Yeah, but as you said it's not unlike Scholes towards the end with the difference being that Carrick defends considerably better although doesn't have the same technique Scholes did. As long as we've got the right balance around him, i.e. Herrera and Pogba then we can protect Carrick. I think we could get Bailly to step up more as well at times and let Carrick drop deeper when needed which can give him a bit more time in games where teams look to hound him.Agree with this. It's a dilemma, but one can keep Mata on the bench and put him on if we are chasing a goal. Carrick needs someone with energy next to him though. I still maintain that his recovery pace (over distance) isn't bad, obviously not Mensah-like, but he really struggles on those first five yards which leads him too far behind. But he has always been like this.
Agreed, Weigl.This game showed me that we need a younger Carrick type player and then play him with Herrera and Pogba in a three.
No you said he was fast, quite literally.I think I used the word "decent" to describe his top speed and said he had awful acceleration, but on a long stretch he isn't slow. You claim he slows us down when he in fact initiates every single fast attack we have with his incisive pass through the middle our to the wings, but yeah.
Interesting, I thought I was the only one in here who don't watch 50 matches per week. Good for us!No idea. I only watch United and sometimes a few Bundesliga games.
Jeez - I said he was fast in terms of outright top speed. Quite literally, you said I argued he was quick, which I never did. Maybe you should read my entire argument, just as you should watch Carrick's entire match instead of that one time he dallied a bit on the ball to get a bigger picture on things? By the way, Paris is more than the Eiffel Tower.No you said he was fast, quite literally.
I watch Youtube compilations as well of players linked with us if that counts?Interesting, I thought I was the only one in here who don't watch 50 matches per week. Good for us!
Again, agree with this. We need to use him sparingly though. In the right set-up, with the defense holding a high line, Carrick is still a great player, but when there is space in between him and the defense, he struggles against hard pressing teams. With our new defense, we have so much speed that we don't need to worry about speedy attackers getting in behind. Carrick behind Herrera and Pogba is a great option, but I don't like leaving Mata out, but he is so much better through the middle than out wide... dilemmas.Yeah, but as you said it's not unlike Scholes towards the end with the difference being that Carrick defends considerably better although doesn't have the same technique Scholes did. As long as we've got the right balance around him, i.e. Herrera and Pogba then we can protect Carrick. I think we could get Bailly to step up more as well at times and let Carrick drop deeper when needed which can give him a bit more time in games where teams look to hound him.
Then you are coveredI watch Youtube compilations as well of players linked with us if that counts?
Could Dahoud play a Carrick role or is he too attacking?No idea. I only watch United and sometimes a few Bundesliga games.
Yeah, I would use that 3 for the big games as I don't think Pogba is disciplined enough to play a deeper role yet however for most games would want Mata in as well and think Herrera could play the deeper role fine over Carrick. I wouldn't want to play Carrick with Feli though as that's a bit slow and I think Feli won't offer the cover Carrick needs. For me the main thing we need to resolve though is the wide players rather than the middle. We need to get them running in behind more rather then looking to develop crosses as none of them are great crossers nor are the full backs. That will open space for us which will let Mata/Pogba influence more.Again, agree with this. We need to use him sparingly though. In the right set-up, with the defense holding a high line, Carrick is still a great player, but when there is space in between him and the defense, he struggles against hard pressing teams. With our new defense, we have so much speed that we don't need to worry about speedy attackers getting in behind. Carrick behind Herrera and Pogba is a great option, but I don't like leaving Mata out, but he is so much better through the middle than out wide... dilemmas.
Thank you for proving my point. Good top speed, awful acceleration.http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-F...ster-united-fastest-player-in-2015-16.aspx?AL
Carrick clocked our highest top speed against Bournemouth last season. Can't be that horrible in long sprints.
Valencia, Martial and Rashford all played that game.
You're right of course, if you make up your own definitions. CARRICK IS NOT FAST. There's no arguing that. Even his biggest fans wouldn't claim he is fast.Jeez - I said he was fast in terms of outright top speed. Quite literally, you said I argued he was quick, which I never did. Maybe you should read my entire argument, just as you should watch Carrick's entire match instead of that one time he dallied a bit on the ball to get a bigger picture on things? By the way, Paris is more than the Eiffel Tower.
It's pointless to argue. He loves argument. He doesnt read or listen to people and doesn't have a clue. Just end the discussion and don't waste your time.Jeez - I said he was fast in terms of outright top speed. Quite literally, you said I argued he was quick, which I never did. Maybe you should read my entire argument, just as you should watch Carrick's entire match instead of that one time he dallied a bit on the ball to get a bigger picture on things? By the way, Paris is more than the Eiffel Tower.
Fellaini?This game showed me that we need a younger Carrick type player and then play him with Herrera and Pogba in a three.
Fellaini is not really that type of player - distribution and control of the game from deep is not good enough - a younger Pirlo would be idea but I'd take a younger CarrickFellaini?
How is that cloning process going? I'd like a Scholes and a Giggs to go too, please. What about Brazilian no9, is he in stock?Fellaini is not really that type of player - distribution and control of the game from deep is not good enough - a younger Pirlo would be idea but I'd take a younger Carrick
He's right though. Fellaini is no CarrickHow is that cloning process going? I'd like a Scholes and a Giggs to go too, please. What about Brazilian no9, is he in stock?
There are many good midfielders around. I'm not sure we need the same type of midfielder. I'd gladly take Verratti, though that would mean the most expensive central midfield ever.
Fellaini is certainly no Carrick. They are completely different players, indeed. Blind is more similar, and I do wonder how well he would fare in Carrick's role. His passing range is probably the closest we have to Carrick, but he does spend more time on the ball than Carrick does. Carrick has the same ability, though to a lesser extent, as Scholes to know where his teammates are and where to pass before he receives the ball.He's right though. Fellaini is no Carrick
Maybe Blind can do the trick
Weirdly he did show one lovely burst of pace in the left back position last night to cut out an attack. Maybe he does have a reasonable top speedYou're right of course, if you make up your own definitions. CARRICK IS NOT FAST. There's no arguing that. Even his biggest fans wouldn't claim he is fast.
Completely agree. I'd much rather someone who can read the game, screen the back four and pick good forward passes that the destroyer type DMs so many seem to want us to bring in.What Carrick shows us is that no matter how much of a pure DM player we are after we need to get someone with abillity on the ball. Abillity on the ball by all in the midfield is essential in modern football, this is why someone like Schneiderlin can't cut it as holding midfield \ DM for a top club.
There needs to be some ball abillity in there, perhaps except if the player in question is such a mobile, positional wise and all conquering DM that he literally free the other guy \ other two in the midfield two\three from nearly all defensive duties.
ThisHe's right though. Fellaini is no Carrick
Maybe Blind can do the trick
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-F...ster-united-fastest-player-in-2015-16.aspx?AL
Carrick clocked our highest top speed against Bournemouth last season. Can't be that horrible in long sprints.
Valencia, Martial and Rashford all played that game.
That does NOT prove your point. It just proves how sluggish/disinterested/avoiding risk of injury (or all of these) the rest of the team's performance was against Bournemouth last season in that match - a dead rubber the week before the cup final.Thank you for proving my point. Good top speed, awful acceleration.
Haven´t seen him too many times. But he certainly has a very good passing range to play that role, but i think for Borussia Mönchengladbach Kramer is usually the more defensive minded player in midfield.Could Dahoud play a Carrick role or is he too attacking?