He'd have a lot more if it wasn't for Ten Hag's stubbornness, Rashford should've been dropped for him as far back as January.
Michael Olise
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I am not against signing him provided that it's not at the cost of a CB, CDM or ST of course. We also shouldn't think what happens to Amad minutes if he came in either, competition for places is a good thing.
It's been weird to read on here in the last week that our right wing is all fine. How people can be ok with Garnacho and Amad going into next season is quite crazy. The teams below comfortably have a better pair of right wingers/forwards than we do.
City - Foden, Bernardo Silva
Arsenal - Saka, Jesus
Liverpool - Salah, Elliot
Villa - Bailey, Diaby
West Ham - Bowen, Kudus
Chelsea - Madueke, Palmer
That's without mentioning teams that have better first choice options like Olise and Neto.
I can't think of many other positions where we would rank lower than 7/8th best positionally in the league so RW is a big problem too if we decide to move on from the unwanted but highly talented duo out on loan.
It’s okay, you’ll eventually realise Amad is a fantastic player.Not denying he has the potential but shouldn't pass on signing this guy for that reason
If we sign 2/3 centre mids, 2/3 centre backs, a left back, a right back and a striker first, with £60 million left over, then fair enough. I can’t see it though.
Signing additional CM and CB is very much dependent on outgoings by the sounds of it, also don't see us signing LB & RB either. Personally feel that a LB would be bigger priority as Shaw fitness concerns
We're not going to sign a RB we already have a good first choice one.
No back up after the AWB sale?
Not sure what's funny unless you think Amad is better than most of the players listed here?
I think he'd come close to Foden and Silva's level for City if he played in that team. Foden, Silva, Saka and Palmer edge him currently due to experience but he has the potential to reach around their level next season if he's trusted with a starting role.
Maybe he isn't leaving because remember it was only Custis that was reporting it on Tuesday night
From your previous posts I thought you were a little excited about Amad but reading the post above no wonder you think our RW is fine. I think you'll find your expectations aren't realistic at all and doubt anyone will share your view on this.
Even if you think he has that top end potential which is extremely optimistic, thinking he could reach that next season has me speechless.
Speechless
how dramatic. I rate him highly, going off your comments in his player thread that you've been called out for, you don't. It's alright.Amazing player but his injury record can't be discounted.
Olise and Todibo are both actively discussed as targets for United's Summer signingsFabrizzio Romano: "
This is a list of players who’ve been left of France squad for Euro 2024 list!
Michael Olise, Malo Gusto, Mohamed Simakan, Jean Clair Todibo, Ben Yedder, Christopher Nkunku, Mattéo Guendouzi, Axel Disasi, Jean-Philippe Mateta, Jordan Veretout and Moussa Diaby will not travel to Germany.
Insane amount of players produced by France "
It doesn't inspire huge excitement to hear that they didnt make their national teams
Comparing Amad to these players bar palmer is almost disrespectful.
Saka, Foden and Silva have given consistent performance for more than almost 2 seasons now.
Consistent Goal and Assist output in PL, Amad has had 2/3 good games and suddenly he’s the new Garnacho.
He’s young and will go through ups and downs till he matures hopefully. We can’t go into the next season with 2 half decent kids under PL pressure.
Olise maybe to just have someone more creative apart from Bruno.
Anyone suggesting we sign players with iffy injury histories has actually vacated their senses.
I couldn't care less about this to be honest. They're both young players with plenty of time to establish themselves at international level. It will also mean that we can get the business done early as they won't be focusing on the tournament.
At what opportunity cost should be the question we ask ourselves. Lisandro Martinez and Luke Shaw have been sick notes for a whole season plus some change, do we expect the situation to improve miraculously? We have let Varane go and should be offloading Casemiro. These four positions need genuine quality and that's where the biggest chunk of our budget and effort should go to, after that a striker and then if we still have money a Right Winger.
We can not operate as if we have an unlimited budget and then wake up towards the commencement of the season without the critical signings the team desperately needs. If the budget is there to fulfill those needs then by all means we can sign him but I would be scathing in my criticism if we drop £60m on Olise then have to scrap the bottom of the barrel for defensive signings after shipping in nearly 90 goals or find Wan Bissaka at LB after Shaw limps off the pitch during the first match after the window has closed.
Currently there's a power vacuum at United. The sporting director is on gardening leave, Wilcox started few weeks ago and there's no one whose experienced enough to truly assessing what's wrong in the football setup and tackle it. We would make signings of course. However I can see INEOS relying on two sort of players ie the tap ins (great talent who are value for money and are versatile) and youth talent on a bargain. These sort of players will either adapt in most systems or could be easily sold if it doesn't work out.
Olise represent the former. He's 22, he's EPL proven, he's got a minimum fee clause and he can play as RW and as no 10. His stats are quite significant. Last year he was an assist machine ie 11 assists in 37 games. This year he sacrificed some of his assists in exchange for goals (10 goals and 5 assists in 18 games). That suggest a great player who can adapt in different roles (assist or goal machine) and still be effective.
Injuries are a concern but it mostly hamstring injury. That's annoying and will strip players out of game time but its not a career breaker. Most pacey players had it including Giggs and Messi (12-14). It's about finding the right training for the person and stick to it.
Regarding fee there are rumors that Palace would be interested to AWB. Could that drive the price down?
Olise represent the former. He's 22, he's EPL proven, he's got a minimum fee clause and he can play as RW and as no 10. His stats are quite significant. Last year he was an assist machine ie 11 assists in 37 games. This year he sacrificed some of his assists in exchange for goals (10 goals and 5 assists in 18 games). That suggest a great player who can adapt in different roles (assist or goal machine) and still be effective.
Injuries are a concern but it mostly hamstring injury. That's annoying and will strip players out of game time but its not a career breaker. Most pacey players had it including Giggs and Messi (12-14). It's about finding the right training for the person and stick to it.
Regarding fee there are rumors that Palace would be interested to AWB. Could that drive the price down?
What news? Not been through the whole thread but has their been a concrete link through a trusted source?
This is exactly what plays through my mind when I’m reading this thread. We’re weaker on the L than the R and should be protecting our good young players.
Notwithstanding the wings there are more pressing areas where I think we’ll need to spend money.
Olise is a lovely footballer to be fair though
Why does that matter? Bruce, Pallister, Cole, to name a few United players who were constantly overlooked by England. Didn’t stop them turning it on for United.
besides anyone can tell you that the French coach has his go to favourites
Palmer is up there with those players on current form, and he was in the same situation as Amad last season. A year of starting games in the PL can make a world of difference. I’m not saying he will, but he has the potential to, going off his technical ability.
Yup - and this was during the time when the England-side was crowded with superb players in those positions
Bruce and Pallister were up against Adams, Walker, Parker, Wright, Butcher and Keown to name some
As for Cole - he had the "pleasure" of competing against Sheringham, Wright, Beardsley, Shearer, Sutton, Ferdinand, Fowler, Owen etc
If you were 6th choice for England - you were still pretty damn good
Re Cole he was more up against hoddle and his preconceptionsYup - and this was during the time when the England-side was crowded with superb players in those positions
Bruce and Pallister were up against Adams, Walker, Parker, Wright, Butcher and Keown to name some
As for Cole - he had the "pleasure" of competing against Sheringham, Wright, Beardsley, Shearer, Sutton, Ferdinand, Fowler, Owen etc
If you were 6th choice for England - you were still pretty damn good
as for Bruce and pally I’d have them over wright, Walker etc
Reported by both Ornstein and Romano.
Good point about this allowing to do business earlier. We do need that
As long as we won't regret signing them...As much as I liked Cole - he was not a top-3 English striker
As for Bruce and Pallister - I would have them over a few of those players - but Des Walker was a very good defender, and unlike most of the others he was up against - he had pace.
There seems to be a feeling from the Palace fans on here a lot of his injury issues are due to being rushed back too quick by Hodgson
I don’t know why people keep posting this rather than simply reading through the thread, Palace fans and reports before suggested it was poor management by Hodgson due to him being worried about Palace struggling then bringing him back way too early that caused the hamstring injuries but since the new bloke went in there’s been nothing at all.
I was speaking to a Palace season ticket holder in my office a few days back about his injuries.
He said that the injury was on international duty and then Roy rushed him back which caused him to get injured again.
He doesn’t see him as injury prone at all.
The France squad isn’t too shabby right now to be fair!Yup - and this was during the time when the England-side was crowded with superb players in those positions
Bruce and Pallister were up against Adams, Walker, Parker, Wright, Butcher and Keown to name some
As for Cole - he had the "pleasure" of competing against Sheringham, Wright, Beardsley, Shearer, Sutton, Ferdinand, Fowler, Owen etc
If you were 6th choice for England - you were still pretty damn good
Not sure what Olise's situation is internationally and who he would choose to represent.
But Todibo not making France's team isn't exactly something to hold against him. They've got the biggest reach of players available to them out of any nation!
If he wasn't making a San Marino, Faroe Islands, Scotland, Finland type level, then you could raise this point.
This is a real Championship Manager take. There is no evidence at all that he could reach those levels, none.
Jesus Christ. Amad is going to be one of the best players in world football? After two matches? The lad is a talented but that’s setting himself up for guaranteed failure.
In fairness lads that poster seems more obsessed with the 60m that he thinks it will take to sign Olise.
I think he has potential to be one of the best right wingers in the league after a season of starts behind him. Quote me on it.