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Plunging Arsenal to new depths.
Preach it.You are all talking nonsense, Arteta is awesome manager with great potential. Arsenal would be fools to sack him.
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Help Arsenal (keep) Hiring Arteta - HAHAYou are all talking nonsense, Arteta is awesome manager with great potential. Arsenal would be fools to sack him.
Just incase if Arsenal boards reads rival fans opinion
Arsenal are a different club with different expectations. For me, arteta is a slightly better coach than ole. Also laying cones for pep sort of is an achievement I would take over relegating Cardiff. Not to mention he has actually won a trophy (which if he hadn't would have him sacked)Yeah a manager finishing 6th, 3rd and 2nd is more inept than a manager finishing 8th and 8th and currently in 7th after spending the highest this season. Ole was poor this season but had he walked off at the end of last season, his record doesn't look too shabby. Arteta is far worse and gets a free pass because he put cones for Pep.
I would take manager who won league titles in Norway than the guy who lays cones or carries drinks.Arsenal are a different club with different expectations. For me, arteta is a slightly better coach than ole. Also laying cones for pep sort of is an achievement I would take over relegating Cardiff. Not to mention he has actually won a trophy (which if he hadn't would have him sacked)
I have a gut feeling Arteta won't be the coach for Arsenal and eventually may get the sack but I'm not ruling out he actually does turn it around.
Lastly, whenever people compare the likes of arteta or pirlo with ole they forget he is 39, younger than a current playing professional zlatan Ibrahimovic. Ole is a seasoned manager -- older than tuchel so "potential" is another factor.
Yeah we are arguing who is less shit. I feel Arteta's work is massively overhyped. Don't think he is doing any special job. It's also funny how when it comes to Ole he is just judged by his cardiff stint. Ole did a much better job managing United than Arteta has done at Arsenal and yeah doesn't change that because he won a FA cup.Arsenal are a different club with different expectations. For me, arteta is a slightly better coach than ole. Also laying cones for pep sort of is an achievement I would take over relegating Cardiff. Not to mention he has actually won a trophy (which if he hadn't would have him sacked)
I have a gut feeling Arteta won't be the coach for Arsenal and eventually may get the sack but I'm not ruling out he actually does turn it around.
Lastly, whenever people compare the likes of arteta or pirlo with ole they forget he is 39, younger than a current playing professional zlatan Ibrahimovic. Ole is a seasoned manager -- older than tuchel so "potential" is another factor.
I mean, we're basically arguing who is the least substandard manager out of the two.Yeah a manager finishing 6th, 3rd and 2nd is more inept than a manager finishing 8th and 8th and currently in 7th after spending the highest this season. Ole was poor this season but had he walked off at the end of last season, his record doesn't look too shabby. Arteta is far worse and gets a free pass because he put cones for Pep.
Ole spent 285 million in 2 full seasons he managed, finished 2nd and 3rd.I mean, we're basically arguing who is the least substandard manager out of the two.
The way I see it, Ole spent close to half a billion and won nothing. Lego pep atleast won an FA cup!
Absolutely. Arteta is still talked about like he has huge potential and we're all waiting for him to fulfil it. Its baffling. Ole did a better job, there I said it although I'll probably get abuse cause you know Ole is the worst manager ever anywhere.Yeah we are arguing who is less shit. I feel Arteta's work is massively overhyped. Don't think he is doing any special job. It's also funny how when it comes to Ole he is just judged by his cardiff stint. Ole did a much better job managing United than Arteta has done at Arsenal and yeah doesn't change that because he won a FA cup.
Also, I would take a manager who actually finished 3rd and 2nd than a manager who just pretends to know what he is doing.
No, you generally don't press much and defend in a deep block. And its by design. You're just not very goodI've read a few times now, that his tactics are cowardly. I don't think they are, I think he goes into away games with a team that's too open for the quality he has.
That actually seems to be what Arteta wantsI don't think he tells his team to sit back & struggle to keep possession when they have the lead, I think there is a mentality thing in the players that think they should retreat.
He sold Bellerin, a "traditional" wingback, and replaced him with a CB hybrid whose natural role would be the RCB in a back-3, and is very much a strictly defensive player...It's an attitude thing for me, a lot of the time it is at Arsenal, I think Utd wanted it more the other night, I think Everton certainly wanted it more last night. Don't get me wrong, it's still something that falls on the manager, that he is isn't getting his message across, or that he isn't getting the players up for it somehow.
I watched the games. You didn't play too open. You're just bad at defending.In saying that, I think he plays too open a formation for these big away games. Look at the results recently, 4 goals conceded at Anfield, 3 at Old Trafford, could easily have been 4 last night. He sets up in that 4231 formation, & we after initially looking a bit better we now have became easy to play through again. The fact he can't see that is worrying. Said it countless times that he should probably go back to 3 at the back in these away games or at least a proper 433.
His choice of substitions is worrying as well.
It seems he is trying. You just don't do it very well. To be fair, you aren't actually bad in a deep block, just not great, and pretty much catastrophic in every other situationI know we're not very good mate, never said once that we were. So when your team is not very good, has deficiencies mainly still being a bit soft & a bit weak, stiffen it up sometimes. You don't have to play 4 players like Odegaard, Martinelli, Saka & Lacazette away from home. Sure, at home you can mostly get away with it. Away from home at tough grounds, it's very difficult unless you are Man City to do that.
And yeah, I put that on the manager.
Doesnt paint the whole picture. Ole inherited a better squad and he managed to sign Ronaldo and Varane for very cheap discounted deals (because of United stature as a club). Meanwhile Arteta has to cope with Ben White for 50mil because in no way shape or form Varane would join them even for the same price. Anyhow both are crap managersOle spent 285 million in 2 full seasons he managed, finished 2nd and 3rd.
Arteta has spent 77 million in full season, finished 8th. Now he has spent 150 million, so total he spent around 227 million, lets see if he can finish at least top 6.
2 full seasons doesn't include Ronaldo and Varane.Doesnt paint the whole picture. Ole inherited a better squad and he managed to sign Ronaldo and Varane for very cheap discounted deals (because of United stature as a club). Meanwhile Arteta has to cope with Ben White for 50mil because in no way shape or form Varane would join them. Anyhow both are crap managers
Work in most of the home games, where we need that extra forward to break teams down because like you say, we are poor in attack.It seems he is trying. You just don't do it very well. To be fair, you aren't actually bad in a deep block, just not great, and pretty much catastrophic in every other situation
Playing all 4 of those guys is kind of needed considering how poor you are in attack
Depends on whether they get aubameyang to perform back to close to his best or not. If yes, then they can challenge for 4th. If not, still EL placesTheir signings have been poor and a waste of money.
But let's be real here, that Arsenal XI/squad, where does it finish in the league with a good coach?
They're not better than City, Liverpool, Chelsea or United.
I'd have West Ham and Spurs' XI over Arsenal's too. I'd say it's up for argument for Everton too.
They've got a 7-8th place quality XI/squad. That's where they belong.
Most if not all of that squad now is Arteta's either through signing them or extending their deals.Their signings have been poor and a waste of money.
But let's be real here, that Arsenal XI/squad, where does it finish in the league with a good coach?
They're not better than City, Liverpool, Chelsea or United.
I'd have West Ham and Spurs' XI over Arsenal's too. I'd say it's up for argument for Everton too.
They've got a 7-8th place quality XI/squad. That's where they belong.
Their signings have been poor and a waste of money.
But let's be real here, that Arsenal XI/squad, where does it finish in the league with a good coach?
They're not better than City, Liverpool, Chelsea or United.
I'd have West Ham and Spurs' XI over Arsenal's too. I'd say it's up for argument for Everton too.
They've got a 7-8th place quality XI/squad. That's where they belong.
This is exactly what Arteta wants you to believe. It’s definitely not true though. Arsenal have a better team and better depth.Everton have a stronger first 11 then Arsenal when everyone is fit. I've seen many people rave about Partey before he joined them but he's ben very average everytime I've seen them.
They've got it all to do to make the top 6.
tbf Arteta has no pressures at ArsenalOle aged a few years from the Utd job.
Is Arteta dying his hair, no greys