keep seeing videos of cnuts going to supermarkets and pouring out loads of milk on shelves. They’re so dim and don’t understand that by doing that they’re likely doing more damage as non-vegan products will be used to clean up/if food is wasted an animal has been killed/raped for nothing.
Militant Vegans
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I've reported you to the vegan council for justice.
It's bad enough that you're a Chelsea fan, but now you're going round dancing on the corpses of innocent snails.
I can understand people questioning their actions, but the language of calling them dim or cnuts isn’t exactly called for because, putting it bluntly, they’re right.
The global meat industry is an horrific contributor to greenhouse gasses and we need to move away from it on a mass, global scale as soon as is possible.
Admittedly I’m not there yet but I’m phasing out meat in order to do my part.
The global meat industry is an horrific contributor to greenhouse gasses and we need to move away from it on a mass, global scale as soon as is possible.
Admittedly I’m not there yet but I’m phasing out meat in order to do my part.
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I do indeed feel bad whenever i step on a snail. I'm not a vegan, though, and my feeling of guilt towards them may stem from the time many years ago, when i used to catch Roman snails and keep them in a little cage in our front yard where i would put paint on their shells so that i'd be able to identify them if one managed to escape and where i would subject them to...interesting experiments.
The feck?I do indeed feel bad whenever i step on a snail. I'm not a vegan, though, and my feeling of guilt towards them may stem from the time many years ago, when i used to catch Roman snails and keep them in a little cage in our front yard where i would put paint on their shells so that i'd be able to identify them if one managed to escape and where i would subject them to...interesting experiments.
Well said, calling them dim for spilling some milk is pretty reductive.
Most vegans I've met are pretty chill and the stereotypes of them wanting to lecture everyone is quite often well off the mark. Most of them end up getting baited into it anyway.
I'm going through a similar journey and will eventually become vegan I think. Really good for the planet.
I was four years old back then.How did I miss this? You can (and should) have both.
Not sure that's a normal part of the farming process, but could be wrong.
"this beef tastes like it's been raped"
Yeah yeah I know, no pedo or rape jokes, blah blah blah
Yeah yeah I know, no pedo or rape jokes, blah blah blah
Cows are forcibly impregnated in the dairy process, using an Artificial insemination gun (not really a gun) but it is put into the cow's cervix and semen is injected. It's a quick and painless process, but it is forced impregnation. Whether it can be described as rape or not, I don't know, but there is certainly no consent.
Do animals give consent?
It's the hardcore vegans that are the worst. feck those guys. They're just like the hardcore religious nuts.Most vegans I've met are pretty chill and the stereotypes of them wanting to lecture everyone is quite often well off the mark. Most of them end up getting baited into it anyway.
I'm going through a similar journey and will eventually become vegan I think. Really good for the planet.
I'd say being a vegan is a positive thing, but there would be a lot of issues and would change the rural landscape significantly if it became the norm. It's an interesting subject to talk about with people that don't just troll each other.
In many species the female can certainly chase away unwanted male attention and welcome it at other times, I honestly don't know in cows.
I have a friend who would be described as a militant vegan. I simply ignore her activism and when she wants to call me out and argue with me for my lifestyle choices. She's part of some group in Florida that will go to the streets and other locations to protest. They dress scantily, often in lingerie type wear I presume so they'll be noticed before blowhorning their rhetoric.
I wonder, do hardcore activists have some internal thinking deficiency or reasoning along similar lines as conspiracists? Like a need to be fully right or morally above?
I wonder, do hardcore activists have some internal thinking deficiency or reasoning along similar lines as conspiracists? Like a need to be fully right or morally above?
Wondering your justification for this view?
Those that protest because of the environmental impact of the industries are right. Those protesting because of the violation and commoditisation of sentient animals, are right.
There’s nothing conspiratorial about it.
Perhaps I should clarify the question was about hardcore activism in general. What drives a person to go full on activist? I could feel the same way towards something but it does not compel me to join a group and go about yelling at people in the streets and at their job sites.
Are they the worst though, really?
Yes I think even vegans admit there are challenges if the whole world suddenly went vegan.
That doesn’t necessarily equate to a mental deficiency though - I admire people who are that committed to a cause that has a basis in factual reality.
I wish I was in a situation where I could join them as, for example, with the climate issue I often fall in to a deep depression thinking about the situation, mostly based around a feeling of helplessness about the situation.
These people are simply willing and able to take that extra step and have some agency over a topic they feel strongly about.
Maybe they care more than you, maybe they have different beliefs about what sort of actions bring about changes, maybe they have other means than you, maybe they're more affected by the issue than you. Or maybe you're just a superior being while they are mentally deficient.
Oh they most certainly are the worst.
Exploited maybe feels more accurate a word choice, but I'm one of the many who eat meat, have milk in their tea and buy free range eggs in a nod to being anti-cruelty, but deep down don't really want to know the ins and outs of farming methods.
A kid at school's mum had a pig farm and he said they sometimes had to guide the boar's cock into the sow if he was struggling when they were breeding them.
I guess this stuff is more industrialised now.
The high rise pig farms in China looked unpleasant.
Nah, that's definitely further away from the truth.
i don't know.
it is a drop in the
on the other hand, it's probably not an effective protest? maybe it gets more people talking, and people in general don't know about the global warming implications of animal ag, but it doesn't feel like it could changes anyone's mind.
and a final "on the other hand" - it's not like conventional news/propaganda/protest is effective with this either, so maybe they're right to do it!
i don't know if "rape" has meaning outside humans, given natural sexual behaviour.
In my personal experience, people who complain about vegans are way more annoying than vegans.
Are they going into vegan shops and throwing tofu on the floor?
Yes they have a point, this much is obvious. I've been a vegetarian for about 12 years, tried to be vegan for like 6 months but it did my head in.
For the past year or so I went back to consuming meat every now and then. Got tired of it all.
I often wonder about these militant vegans as you put it-
If we all turned vegan and had leaves or flowers coming out of our ears,
will they shut the feck up? Or will most of them won't be able to rest for one minute,
and start being militant about some other injustice?
Activists seem like such unhappy people to me...
I guess a part of me envies their sense of purpose, but i'll never want to be in their seats.
I find life to be difficult enough as it as.
For the past year or so I went back to consuming meat every now and then. Got tired of it all.
I often wonder about these militant vegans as you put it-
If we all turned vegan and had leaves or flowers coming out of our ears,
will they shut the feck up? Or will most of them won't be able to rest for one minute,
and start being militant about some other injustice?
Activists seem like such unhappy people to me...
I guess a part of me envies their sense of purpose, but i'll never want to be in their seats.
I find life to be difficult enough as it as.
No, they just won't shut up about how annoying vegans are.
Vegans ain't militant enough imo. I for one won't rest until the day people realise that plants feel pain too.
It's genuinely weird to me when people act like activism is a bad thing for people to be doing.
Former dairy farmer. Indeed the cow is "raped" by some dude going elbow deep inside her with a straw to artificially inseminate.
Their purpose seems to come from finding a way to justify being dickheads a lot of the time.
It's much better to try and win people over rather than just pissing everyone off and entrenching views because you've created two sides. But then maybe nothing would ever change.
Yeah have to agree with this (at least from my real world experiences).
I think it was a common to hear people shit on Vegans around the same time it was cool to talk about Chuck Norris roundhouse kicking the sun and watching "Epic Meal Time" wrap bacon around Big Macs.
I don't really get hating on them nowadays.
I know veggies and vegans and they don't even bring the subject up until menu choice time, and then they're no different to any other people's likes and dislikes.
How come you changed profession out of interest? Farming seems a very tough but interesting gig.
I imagine it would be fun viewing the suffragettes who got women the vote, or the unions who won the weekend and work time limitations as people who ‘found a way to justify being dickheads a lot of the time.’
Yeah pretty much. I've a few friends who are vegan and of course it comes up when eating together - but they rarely mention it otherwise. That joke about "how can you tell someone is a vegan?..." is still spread as if it's almost a funny fact, but in my experience is a load of shite.
I think a lot of the hate vegans get is from people who know that vegans are right, but they couldn't do it themselves so they dismiss the idea and call them crazy.
"The thing that’s annoying about there suddenly being lots of them (vegans) is the nagging suspicion that they might be right. When there were hardly any vegans, I hardly ever had to think about that."
Peep show bloke 2018.
How can you tell that someone isn't vegan? They'll tell you that tired old joke about how you identify vegans.