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Yeah so that we can stop producing players like Rashford, Greenwood.There was a time we predominantly produced our own. Now we simply buy in. Is that around 6 in just that age group? You could easily scrap younger ages and buy in at 15 or 16.
Henderson, Shoretire, Laird, Mainoo...Yeah so that we can stop producing players like Rashford, Greenwood.
Of the 12 lads who got scholarships this summer 10 have been with the club from 13 or younger & 7 have been there the whole way through as have 5 of the 6 u16s who have played for the u18s this season.There was a time we predominantly produced our own. Now we simply buy in. Is that around 6 in just that age group? You could easily scrap younger ages and buy in at 15 or 16.
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What, bigsid made up one more thing to have a go at ManUtd academy. Wow that's (not) surprisingOf the 12 lads who got scholarships this summer 10 have been with the club from 13 or younger & 7 have been there the whole way through as have 5 of the 6 u16s who have played for the u18s this season.
The question is how good is he ??Darren Fletcher's son making the England u15 squad according to Bigsoccer forums and he plays for Man City(kinda understandable as the gap was pretty big between the academies when he joined in there). Would think it's a matter of time that he signs for United given Fletcher's involvement in the club now?
If he's called up to an England camp then he's among the better players in his age group.The question is how good is he ??
As @Classical Mechanic mentioned it cos he was called up for England u15 camps, must mean he's a good talent. Fletcher has twins, so the other son is apparently playing for Scotland youth teams(no confirmation of that).The question is how good is he ??
Its amazingWhat, bigsid made up one more thing to have a go at ManUtd academy. Wow that's (not) surprising
That's true. The net is cast quite wide on these camps so it's not like making an u17 squad.There were players that called up to U15s camp in the past and we ended up release at 16.
There were also U15s camp players before that were basically our former youth that were released at 12 or so.
Does it? Are you really surprised that a middlingly talented 18 year old hasn't walked into their first XI straight away?Just checked and Harvey Neville plays for Inter Miami reserves now. Not that I thought he was that talented but it makes you wonder how many of these son's of famous footballers will make it at the top level.
Not having a go simply noticed we appear to be signing large numbers of players from outside those produced within the academy in the later ages. Can't remember that being so prevalent in previous years.Its amazing
Qualified, 3 wins out of 3 on to the finals in October.No, Academy break, they have a PL qualifier this weekend I believe
He was pretty average when he was here, don't know if he was a bigger talent when he was a kid but at U18 level he never stood out.Just checked and Harvey Neville plays for Inter Miami reserves now. Not that I thought he was that talented but it makes you wonder how many of these son's of famous footballers will make it at the top level.
What do you think happened from 1932-2008?There was a time we predominantly produced our own. Now we simply buy in. Is that around 6 in just that age group? You could easily scrap younger ages and buy in at 15 or 16.
As I understand it...from the ages of 7/8 until they are 15/16 they are one year contracts. Each player and parent signs the contract each year if the club offers one. Some kids don't develop, some move away and some kids just lose interest. Theoretically, a club could hold a player to that contract but in reality most clubs are pretty loose unless the player is really good. If United want another player from another Academy they would have to pay that Academy compensation (and vice versa) like we did with Sharpe at Derby County recently.For those of you who know - could you explain to me how things work before a player gets a professional contract ? What contracts do they have and can they simply walk out of it as they see fit ? I never really understood it.
I think his point was how far Harvey Neville has fallen by signing for Inter Miami's reserve team.Does it? Are you really surprised that a middlingly talented 18 year old hasn't walked into their first XI straight away?
You're missing the point as I'm agreeing we have always produced our ownWhat do you think happened from 1932-2008?
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Wrong to suggest one year contracts and that you can leave at any given point. Compensation is always due as club retains registration. In Parkers case if he has been at arsenal say 6 years minimum compensation be around 200kAs I understand it...from the ages of 7/8 until they are 15/16 they are one year contracts. Each player and parent signs the contract each year if the club offers one. Some kids don't develop, some move away and some kids just lose interest. Theoretically, a club could hold a player to that contract but in reality most clubs are pretty loose unless the player is really good. If United want another player from another Academy they would have to pay that Academy compensation (and vice versa) like we did with Sharpe at Derby County recently.
If a player is not under contract or has been released, as with Harrison Parker or Jospeh Olowu, then we don't pay compensation.
When the player reaches U/15-U/16 they are offered a scholarship which can be different in make up.
1 year scholarship
2 year scholarship
2 + 1 two year scholarship with a guarantee of one year pro contract
2 + 2
etc
When a player reaches 17 they can sign a professional contract. This can be anything. 1-6 years depending on potential or even more but normally less given chances of injury, lack of development etc
So in answer to your question....a player can walk out after each season if they want to unless they are under contract. If they choose to break the contract and go to another club, compensation is involved. If they break the contract and just leave football most clubs just let it go.
Players signed going into their u9-u12, u14 & 16 can only be signed for 1 season but u13 & u15 can be signed for 2 seasons. Arsenal would have filed an intention to retain form for Parker which he rejected so they'd be due compensation for him.As I understand it...from the ages of 7/8 until they are 15/16 they are one year contracts. Each player and parent signs the contract each year if the club offers one. Some kids don't develop, some move away and some kids just lose interest. Theoretically, a club could hold a player to that contract but in reality most clubs are pretty loose unless the player is really good. If United want another player from another Academy they would have to pay that Academy compensation (and vice versa) like we did with Sharpe at Derby County recently.
If a player is not under contract or has been released, as with Harrison Parker or Jospeh Olowu, then we don't pay compensation.
When the player reaches U/15-U/16 they are offered a scholarship which can be different in make up.
1 year scholarship
2 year scholarship
2 + 1 two year scholarship with a guarantee of one year pro contract
2 + 2
etc
When a player reaches 17 they can sign a professional contract. This can be anything. 1-6 years depending on potential or even more but normally less given chances of injury, lack of development etc
So in answer to your question....a player can walk out after each season if they want to unless they are under contract. If they choose to break the contract and go to another club, compensation is involved. If they break the contract and just leave football most clubs just let it go.
Has he? Was he ever gonna get a game for Man Utd's first team? Will he get one for the team his dad's coaching while living by the beach in Miami? He's made a sensible career move for my money.I think his point was how far Harvey Neville has fallen by signing for Inter Miami's reserve team.
It's Inter Miami, not Inter Milan.
Thanks for the update.Wrong to suggest one year contracts and that you can leave at any given point. Compensation is always due as club retains registration. In Parkers case if he has been at arsenal say 6 years minimum compensation be around 200k
Thanks...a few different views apparently.Players signed going into their u9-u12, u14 & 16 can only be signed for 1 season but u13 & u15 can be signed for 2 seasons. Arsenal would have filed an intention to retain form for Parker which he rejected so they'd be due compensation for him.
Thanks for those.United's U'16's played in the National Qualifiers at Carrington today.
As I understand from various social media reports, the games were 20 mins each way and the results were as follows:
Manchester United 2 Wolves 0 (Nolan, Williams)
Manchester United 3 Stoke City 0 (Nolan, McAllister. Jones)
Manchester United 4 Nottingham Forest 1 (Lacey, Musa, Berry, Scanlon)
By those names I guess it was pretty much the same squad that played in Northern Ireland in July.
Not sure who else played as there are a few juniors on international duty.
We now qualify for the finals in October.
No the age group below.Isn’t Harrison Parker the same age group and position as Louis Jackson and Jack Kingdon?
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