VP89
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Who the feck says this I never understand it. DoF isn't some sort of cheer leading roleMaking Ole DOF is up there with the stupidest ideas I've heard.
Who the feck says this I never understand it. DoF isn't some sort of cheer leading roleMaking Ole DOF is up there with the stupidest ideas I've heard.
Its the Caf, we've had posters suggest that we should play Shaw at CB, Pogba as a winger and Fred at LB. Nothing surprises me on here anymore.Making Ole DOF is up there with the stupidest ideas I've heard.
I love how football fans like to change history. Roll back about 12 to 13 months and loads of Spurs fans were calling for Poch's head. They just had a really a poor start to the PL and were getting embarrassed in the CL. Bayern scored 7 on their own patch.
Not good enough for Spurs and not trusted to be the man to finally win them a trophy but he's good enough for us which is a much much tougher job???
Rather stick with Ole.
Backed by scienceHow can something that is backed by science be a myth?
Anyway, he exceeded expectations with a team without resources of a big club. It is a no brainer that he will do well here and take us back where we should be.![]()
Well that's hardly true though is it?
Mourinho wasn't good enough for us over a 2 1/2 year period. Poch was plenty good enough for Spurs for nearly six years but it just fell apart that last season.
Where should we be ? Don't you mean where you want us to be, we probably are ''where we should be'' when not managed by someone named Busby or Ferguson.How can something that is backed by science be a myth?
Anyway, he exceeded expectations with a team without resources of a big club. It is a no brainer that he will do well here and take us back where we should be.
Backed by science![]()
I already know he lives somewhere inside Poch but to say that backed by science comment is taking it up another levelYou'll learn not to question Amadaeus
So...
...they sacked him because he wasn't good enough then.
Mourinho's results were good enough in his first two seasons at United for him to keep his job, qualified for the CL both seasons, won two trophies, finished 2nd. But it all went tits up and fell off a cliff so he was understandably sacked.
Pochettino's time at Spurs followed a somewhat similar trajectory minus the trophies.
I'd rather the Southampton manager than Poch if we did sack Ole
You are being incredibly facetious there.So...
...they sacked him because he wasn't good enough then.
Mourinho's results were good enough in his first two seasons at United for him to keep his job, qualified for the CL both seasons, won two trophies, finished 2nd. But it all went tits up and fell off a cliff so he was understandably sacked.
Pochettino's time at Spurs followed a somewhat similar trajectory minus the trophies.
It does help your net spend when you basically get a £150m striker for free.How can something that is backed by science be a myth?
Anyway, he exceeded expectations with a team without resources of a big club. It is a no brainer that he will do well here and take us back where we should be.![]()
When did this happen with Mourinho at United?
He cost 22 million....... What's he worth?How much Son cost?
I don't like Mourinho, but breaking 80 points with the team he had is a good achievement. When the board didn't back him in the transfer market after that, I realized that we have a long road ahead of us. Whoever is in charge is going to have a really hard time. We may occasionally strike gold and find a miracle worker, but it will not lead to long-term success. Perhaps that's hoping for too much in today's climate, though.
I agree. If Woodward and the Glazers don't work with the manager we are lost, no matter who it is.I don't like Mourinho, but breaking 80 points with the team he had is a good achievement. When the board didn't back him in the transfer market after that, I realized that we have a long road ahead of us. Whoever is in charge is going to have a really hard time. We may occasionally strike gold and find a miracle worker, but it will not lead to long-term success. Perhaps that's hoping for too much in today's climate, though.
He cost 22 million....... What's he worth?
For five out of his six years at Spurs Pocchetino over-achieved at Spurs, based on the money spent and the historical achievements of the club.
When did this happen with Mourinho at United?
ThisMaking Ole DOF is up there with the stupidest ideas I've heard.
Why are people so intent on having this guy around? He doesn’t have to be part of the set up off of sympathy because he scored an important goal two decades ago. “Oh yeah, you failed as a manager so now we’re going to give you the job of the guy that’s going to be overseeing the next manager” what the hell? That’d undermine him and create a weird dynamic with the next manager
and before people start talking nonsense about the players he’s bought. Maguire and Wan Bissaka we’re both known quantities and the jury is still out for both. I personally think him and Giggs will not find peace in the after life for subjugating me to having to watch Daniel James. Ighalo I don’t even- and Bruno, though a good player and the only one you can really call a success, is a weird one in the sense that he can be downright dreadful for +70 minutes but then end up with two goal contributions. Telles is a good player but we need to see how that turns out, same for Cavani.
What about his transfer record screams “I need that as United’s DoF”? Herrera dashed out for better pay elsewhere, Lukaku wanted out, same for Young (IIRC he wanted more years for renewal), Darmian only existed as an algorithm (has anyone actually seen Darmian in the past 4 years?)
like what has this guy actually done that makes people say “yeah DoF”, what selling a flabby Sanchez? Or is it shipping Fellaini out? I’m trying to understand the reasoning
Son worth? ...that’s a tricky oneHe cost 22 million....... What's he worth?
He would not be telling him how his team will play in the same way Klopp and Pep do not get told what to do when it comes to the running of the team.You can see no problem with Ole being moved aside from a job and then essentially being the boss of the man replacing him?
You need to get out more.Making Ole DOF is up there with the stupidest ideas I've heard.
You are being incredibly facetious there.
In his last season, yes, Poch "wasn't good enough". For five of those years he arguably overachieved and improved Spurs year on year, culminating in a CL final nobody expected them to get to. I've seen Spurs fans on here proclaim them to be the best manager they've had in the PL era at least.
Mourinho achieved the bare minimum he needed to in order to keep his job here for TWO years, and even then most will argue that his overall tenure was a brutal failure and the third year was merely a culmination of poor team building and transfers in the prior two years.
I'm comparing them both qualifying for the CL mate not their performances based on the relative expectations of each club.
For two full seasons Jose qualified for the CL then it fell apart and he got sacked.
Pochettino managed that for 4 out of 5 seasons fair play to him but then it ultimately ended in similar fashion. His teams form nosedived and he got the boot.
Also in the 5 years before Pochettino took over at Spurs their league finishes were 4th, 5th, 4th 5th and 6th. In 5 years under Pochettino they finished 5th, 3rd, 2nd, 3rd, 4th an improvement no doubt but he hardly worked miracles as his first season coincided with Harry Kanes emergence and him scoring 31, 28, 35, 41 and 24. Don't know how Pochettino would have fared having to rely on Adebeyor averaging 10-15 goals a season.
it's completely incomparable, if you can't see the difference then I don't know what to tell you.
Yeah but he gets his team play with high intensity. Something we seem to struggle with from the kick off and Ole can't get going. Some football spurs played under him was entertaining, one touch and with intensity. When Kane, Son and Erickson and Ali were in free flow they were very good to watch. With Martial, Rashford, Greenwood and Fernandes he has the players there but will coach them better.He's a very likeable guy and I think he'd do a very good job here. Wouldn't be the free flowing football some seem to imagine though
And Ali for £5m. Eriksen, Dembele, Lloris, Vertonghen already there. They were his 'resources', all nothing to do with him and his 'net spend'.It does help your net spend when you basically get a £150m striker for free.
The more I watched him the more I'd like to see him at Old Trafford. His record in the Premier League better than I thought. Worse postion 6th, worse points tally 64. Not at all bad when you consider he was working with a chairman who wouldn't spend money.
I really do think he could turn our great club round.
I don't disagree - I merely disagree that it's comparable to Jose's time here. He did a far better job at Spurs than Mourinho at Utd.As i said he's a good manager but i don't really think he would be a massive improvement on what we have/had with Solskjaer and Mourinho. If he’s even an improvement at all.
Tell that to my government.You need to get out more.
What's tricky about it? Pretty simple question really.Son worth? ...that’s a tricky one
Yes I agree, we have the front players and with coaching and getting team playing with high intensity we could be up there with the best.Yeah but he gets his team play with high intensity. Something we seem to struggle with from the kick off and Ole can't get going. Some football spurs played under him was entertaining, one touch and with intensity. When Kane, Son and Erickson and Ali were in free flow they were very good to watch. With Martial, Rashford, Greenwood and Fernandes he has the players there but will coach them better.
What's hilarious is your stupid reply with the girlfriend quote.This is hilarious, almost as if you're making excuses for Poch who's 'worse tally' is something you'd accept but at the same time would chase Ole out of the club for......
Ole:
2018/2019 - 6th - 66
2019/2020 - 3rd - 66
RedCafe's hard-on for Poch is like the girl you have a huge crush for years. Your current girlfriend is cute but to you she's not as cute as the girl next door who is more or less the same as your current girlfriend (on face value) - so you toy with the idea of breaking up with her.....but in actual reality there's no reason to break up with your current girlfriend because you've gone through a rough patch a few times. The high times have been great but it's getting rough again and you can't be bothered anymore.....