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Agreed it's depressing, but welcome to the passage of time.It’s a sad state of affairs kids these days view clubs like them that way. It’ll be the same with City. What a sad, depressing thought.
Agreed it's depressing, but welcome to the passage of time.It’s a sad state of affairs kids these days view clubs like them that way. It’ll be the same with City. What a sad, depressing thought.
Brighton are at this level for the first time in their history or for the first time in few decades, so ofcourse you can't expect their players to hit greater heights, I don't think they had any players who were so highly rated and rated as one for the top teams.Whose been the most successful player out of Brighton so far?
That's true of other clubs and has been for a long time, Harry Kane was an Arsenal fan as a kid as was Gareth Bale Roy Keane a Spurs fan, Kevin De Brunye was a Liverpool, fan, Chelsea legend John Terry was a United fan and Jaime Carragher was an EvertonianWhy we almost never manage to sign boyhood United fans (bar Bruno and Ighalo), they all seem to go to City, Liverpool or Chelsea
Luke Shaw is a Chelsea fan, and we actually wanted him when you signed him.That's true of other clubs and has been for a long time, Harry Kane was an Arsenal fan as a kid as was Gareth Bale Roy Keane a Spurs fan, Kevin De Brunye was a Liverpool, fan, Chelsea legend John Terry was a United fan and Jaime Carragher was an Evertonian
To elaborate on my other response, we've currently only have Enzo and Gallagher left from last season's midfield. Gone are RLC, Mount, Kante, Jorginho and Kante. So even if we add Caicedo we probably need another midfielder like Lavia or Veiga, depending on the profile Poch wants. That would give us Enzo, Caicedo, Gallagher, Lavia or Veiga plus Chukwuemeka and Santos, is only 18 but highly rated and will supposedly stay with the first team rather than go on loan. For Poch, I think that's a pretty good midfield to work with.How do Chelsea line up in midfield if they get Caicedo? @WeePat
Gracias senorTo elaborate on my other response, we've currently only have Enzo and Gallagher left from last season's midfield. Gone are RLC, Mount, Kante, Jorginho and Kante. So even if we add Caicedo we probably need another midfielder like Lavia or Veiga, depending on the profile Poch wants. That would give us Enzo, Caicedo, Gallagher, Lavia or Veiga plus Chukwuemeka and Santos, is only 18 but highly rated and will supposedly stay with the first team rather than go on loan. For Poch, I think that's a pretty good midfield to work with.
Because when you're at a smaller club on a relatively small contract, you're not in a position to be calm and let things ride out organically. These players want to secure the bag on a massive contract ASAP, and mostly the ones who can be confident and relaxed about not doing so, have been touted as sure things forever, like a Rice or Bellingham.Don't understand this move for him.
Chelsea aren't in Europe, finished 12th, and there is no way to know how they'll perform this year after a total squad and management rebuild.
Meanwhile, he is playing extremely well and developing rapidly at Brighton. He will have many more suitors over the next 1-2 years and, once multiple tier 1 clubs are competing for his signature, his agent will be able to bid up his salary much higher than a single-team pursuit.
This whole thing makes no sense to me and I hope his agent is doing right by him, but given his agent's client roster (i.e., very few high earners), I suspect the agent is pushing this for a payday and incentives are not aligned.
Is Ben a Chelsea fan? This reads as a Chelsea’s fan interpretation of events. Why would Caicedo having an opinion on his value matter at all?
We had Jimmy Case in the early 80s and Bobby Zamora in the early 2000s!Brighton are at this level for the first time in their history or for the first time in few decades, so ofcourse you can't expect their players to hit greater heights, I don't think they had any players who were so highly rated and rated as one for the top teams.
No idea if he's a Chelsea fan but all his "sources" are Chelsea linked, it's the only insight he has.Is Ben a Chelsea fan? This reads as a Chelsea’s fan interpretation of events. Why would Caicedo having an opinion on his value matter at all?
He’s a Leicester fan. But yeah, his sources around this deal, if he has any, are probably on the Chelsea side of things.Is Ben a Chelsea fan? This reads as a Chelsea’s fan interpretation of events. Why would Caicedo having an opinion on his value matter at all?
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It's always strategically worded in football journo jargon to give themselves an out if it doesn't pan out. He said 'it is understood 5M add-ons were discussed'So where the feck is the 70m plus 5m add ons Jacobs was talking about not two hours ago?
You don't get much for £600 million in 12 months these days!I came to post that I wasn't really sure why Chelsea are prioritizing Caicedo when there are such glaring holes in their squad elsewhere, but I then did a quick google of their current squad and it's fecking atrocious
They literally need to fix every part of their squad. Striker options are dreadful, centre-backs aren't much better, wing-backs can't stay fit, and their GK's are nothing to write home about. And they'll have spent upwards of across 3 windows. Fecking nuts.
Or you'll just cave and pay exactly what they want like you did with Enzo Fernandez?I think Chelsea are happy with paying between 80-90M including add-ons. Brighton will need to come down from their 100M valuation though, if this deal has any chance of getting done.
Chelsea fans told us this was "Negotiating 101" and knew nothing about businessNot sure what Chelsea expected when they turned down a bigger offer in January from Arsenal.
No chance they accept lower than 80 especially in light of the Rice deal
Personally I doubt it but we'll see.Or you'll just cave and pay exactly what they want like you did with Enzo Fernandez?
After seeing what price Fernandez and Rice went for, Brighton should demand 100 million.
TBF though if they get Caicedo, they'd have one of the best balanced and most talented midfield pairings wrapped up for the foreseeable future which is pretty big. Carney Chukwuemeka looks good too.I came to post that I wasn't really sure why Chelsea are prioritizing Caicedo when there are such glaring holes in their squad elsewhere, but I then did a quick google of their current squad and it's fecking atrocious
They literally need to fix every part of their squad. Striker options are dreadful, centre-backs aren't much better, wing-backs can't stay fit, and their GK's are nothing to write home about. And they'll have spent upwards of across 3 windows. Fecking nuts.
Which sides in the PL have an overall better full-back collective than James, Gusto, Chilwell, Cucurella? There's also Maatsen and Hall waiting in the sidelines for LB if Cucurella keeps being shit.I came to post that I wasn't really sure why Chelsea are prioritizing Caicedo when there are such glaring holes in their squad elsewhere, but I then did a quick google of their current squad and it's fecking atrocious
They literally need to fix every part of their squad. Striker options are dreadful, centre-backs aren't much better, wing-backs can't stay fit, and their GK's are nothing to write home about. And they'll have spent upwards of across 3 windows. Fecking nuts.
For all the money they have spent that potential starting line up is very underwhelming.TBF though if they get Caicedo, they'd have one of the best balanced and most talented midfield pairings wrapped up for the foreseeable future which is pretty big. Carney Chukwuemeka looks good too.
Reece James/Malo Gusto at right back is an excellent duo as well. Would have loved to have signed Gusto, yet he'll just be a fill in for Reece whenever he gets injured which is often TBF. Lewis Hall as a backup left back is fine if cucurella is mediocre, chilwell is average and always injured.
Colwill at LCB looks like he's a long term brilliant CB. You'd assume one of the others can step in next to him, Thiago Silva very old of course but still good in a back 3.
From their attack, between Nkunku, Sterling, Mudryk, Madueke, CHO and Jackson (as backup 9, they still need a main 9 but don't think they get one) they've got solid talent. No star quality though, and no starting 9. But definitely there is a team to build off of. My guess is they do something like:
I'd say they have good enough depth at the back 4, enough depth on the wings between Madueke, CHO, Sterling and Mudryk but not really any depth in midfield or up top. And Madueke isn't much more than an unproven talent. With the right coaching I could see them step up loads. Caicedo is absolutely vital for them though. If they fail to get him they'll fully flop. They'll probably be pretty good if they do get him though, once they all bed in.
Kepa
James Silva Colwill Chilwell
Caicedo Enzo
Madueke Nkunku Sterling
Jackson
Yeah they've wasted a ton but it's not that relevant to look at what's been wasted in the past, but more what they will have for next year and the year after. They've definitely wasted half a billion which is wild, but they did grab a few very good pieces, and had some very good home grown players, and if they get Caicedo in then they will definitely have a midfield to be envious of. Didn't want them to get Enzo even at that price, and don't want them to get Caicedo even if it's 100m. They're pretty much a perfect midfield pairing for me, press resistant, suit each other very well, quality on the ball, can dictate tempo, can progress it well...For all the money they have spent that potential starting line up is very underwhelming.
That is wild but i feel like we've done the sameYeah they've wasted a ton but it's not that relevant to look at what's been wasted in the past, but more what they will have for next year and the year after. They've definitely wasted half a billion which is wild, but they did grab a few very good pieces, and had some very good home grown players, and if they get Caicedo in then they will definitely have a midfield to be envious of. Didn't want them to get Enzo even at that price, and don't want them to get Caicedo even if it's 100m. They're pretty much a perfect midfield pairing for me, press resistant, suit each other very well, quality on the ball, can dictate tempo, can progress it well...
Colwill and Reece James at the back should be staples they build around, and they have Badiashlie and Gusto to back them up so again, can't hate on that. A lot of the others like Fofana though are just a waste due to cost and what they'll actually bring (constant injuries).
Highlighted are utterly unreliable due to injury records unfortunately. Could even possibly throw Badiashille into that mix. All good players on their day, but simply can't be relied upon as first choices. Personally, I just see nothing in Cucarella to suggest he's up to the required standard, let alone the amount forked out for him.Which sides in the PL have an overall better full-back collective than James, Gusto, Chilwell, Cucurella? There's also Maatsen and Hall waiting in the sidelines for LB if Cucurella keeps being shit.
And are Colwill, Silva, Badiashile, Fofana and Chalobah really only 'slightly better than dreadful'? Fofana's injuries are admittedly a bit of a problem but otherwise zero complaints about our CBs from me. Colwill's headed for the very top of the game, Badiashile's looked pretty good since signing in January and Silva is still very good despite his age. Chalobah is a decent squad filler.
GKs are a bit shite, yeah. But even so, last season Kepa wasn't anywhere near as bad as some are saying. Won't be enough to challenge for the big trophies with Kepa as 1st choice but on last season's form he's good enough for a team that aims to compete for top-4. Long term we need improvements there but aside from the unrealistic targets Costa/Maignan I'm not sure if there's anyone available who I'd even fancy going after. Maybe it's a decision for another transfer window.
In the forward areas we have some raw talent who've yet to show anything for the club but the potential is there with Jackson, Mudryk and Madueke. Whether these guys work out for us or not remains to be seen but I'm ready to at least give them a chance and improve on these positions if they prove to be not good enough.
Chilwell, James, Colwill, Badiashile, Fofana, Enzo, Nkunku, Sterling and Caicedo (if signed) make up for a pretty good squad core IMO.
TBF though if they get Caicedo, they'd have one of the best balanced and most talented midfield pairings wrapped up for the foreseeable future which is pretty big. Carney Chukwuemeka looks good too.
Reece James/Malo Gusto at right back is an excellent duo as well. Would have loved to have signed Gusto, yet he'll just be a fill in for Reece whenever he gets injured which is often TBF. Lewis Hall as a backup left back is fine if cucurella is mediocre, chilwell is average and always injured.
Colwill at LCB looks like he's a long term brilliant CB. You'd assume one of the others can step in next to him, Thiago Silva very old of course but still good in a back 3.
From their attack, between Nkunku, Sterling, Mudryk, Madueke, CHO and Jackson (as backup 9, they still need a main 9 but don't think they get one) they've got solid talent. No star quality though, and no starting 9. But definitely there is a team to build off of. My guess is they do something like:
I'd say they have good enough depth at the back 4, enough depth on the wings between Madueke, CHO, Sterling and Mudryk but not really any depth in midfield or up top. And Madueke isn't much more than an unproven talent. With the right coaching I could see them step up loads. Caicedo is absolutely vital for them though. If they fail to get him they'll fully flop. They'll probably be pretty good if they do get him though, once they all bed in.
Kepa
James Silva Colwill Chilwell
Caicedo Enzo
Madueke Nkunku Sterling
Jackson
I was the worst newbie scout because I didn't give anyone any likesThat is wild but i feel like we've done the same
I agree on paper Enzo and Caicedo looks like an FM load/save cm partnership when you think that you are now set for the next ten years. As a united fan I hope it goes to rat shit asap though.
If they can keep RJ and BC fit then it's not a bad defence I guess assuming age doesn't catch up finally with Silva and Colwill can find the consistency at that age to play CB.
I now you're the worst scout to ever exist b_r but what's your prediction for them this season ?
I was just thinking the same...seems beyond common sense to include a transfer fee/clause in any renewal.so he signed a new deal with only a gentlemans agreement to let him go?
that would be idiotic if thats the case
being a football agent can't be that hard surely
Gentlemans agreement....so he signed a new deal with only a gentlemans agreement to let him go?
that would be idiotic if thats the case
being a football agent can't be that hard surely