Not true. Shaw and Martial have been really good. Rashford put in a very good performance yesterday. Our star man didn't bother showing up.
Mourinho at full time: "Pogba a virus. You don't play. You don't respect players/fans" [Castles]
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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Mate, you can say all that, but just look at the ratings from this very forum. Pogba is the highest after Shaw.
Herrera 5.2
Jones 4.0
Pogba 5.9
Lindelof 5.8
Rashford 4.7
Matic 4.6
Martial 5.7
Lukaku 4.3
Young 5.0
Fellaini 5.7
Lingard 4.6
Shaw 6.1
Fred 5.4
Smalling 5.5
If you go by whoscored, Pogba is also rated the highest (Darmian only appeared twice). Wherever you look, he's one of our top players. You guys are blinded by something. Not sure what it is, but you guys clearly don't like the guy.
This reads like it's about yesterday's performance. And if that's the case, it's fair. However, when judging the entire season it's wrong to suggest Pogba is one of the biggest problems at United.
Another brilliant piece of man-management by Jose.
Well, he's not wrong if it is true.
Pogba doesn't respect the club or its supporters and, the way he carries on in my opinion, he is the most overrated footballer I've ever seen at the club
Both should just piss off
Pogba doesn't respect the club or its supporters and, the way he carries on in my opinion, he is the most overrated footballer I've ever seen at the club
Both should just piss off
Pogba is the only reason Jose is still in a job, so if anything we should all be madder at Pogba for saving the plonker.
Perhaps as early as January.
This is such nonsense! He's been awful since the season started.
If you actually think that Shaw and Lukaku were better during this set of games then there is no point discussing. Lukaku has been good in one of these games and it was against Burnley, Shaw was also better than Pogba during that game, Pogba was better in almost all the other games.
I’ve already stated he had a poor game, but I’m not blind enough to realise we’d be much worse without him.
Pogba has days like this and it’s just what we have to accept, but 9/10 he’s positive.
It just makes me laugh that Matic has had performances like that for WEEKS in a row, but not a mention. Jose clearly hates flair players and wants a team of simple robots who are soldiers. Get Jose out and find a manager that can work with talented players ffs
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New car sticker available in the club shop: 'Honk if you've been manipulated by Jose'.
He was still the caf's motm for the Burnley game Di Maria's angel is referring to though.
Exactly. Confidence plays big part and all of our players are very low on confidence. Also having Jose as manager won't help in these cases. Our players have showed it with their national teams and also with their previous clubs that they are good players. With the way Jose sets up the team, everyone looks shit.
This is just what Mourinho does. Turn players against him, against each other and fans against fans. We saw it with Mancini and when the rot sets in the only way to eradicate it is to get rid of the cause.
Having said that, Pogba does seem to be taking the piss out of you guys most of the time. He should be showing more professionalism and respect to the fans who ultimately pay his wages.
Having said that, Pogba does seem to be taking the piss out of you guys most of the time. He should be showing more professionalism and respect to the fans who ultimately pay his wages.
He said 'respectively' hence he was talking about Lukaku's game against Burnley.
He scored twice in that game and Pogba missed a penalty (although it was probably one of Pogba's better performances).
I wouldnt call him a virus, a cnut maybe, but not a virus. Unless his shitty attitude is spreading to others? I honestly couldnt give a feck if jose is the worst manager/coach in the world, no player plays for the manager. They play for the club and the fans. Anything less than their best effort is a fecking disgrace and they deserve to be attacked for it.
yeah ok then
keep the hate up buddyI didn't read him properly.
I think that's what Mourinho meant. Sort of like an anti-Keane, where Pogba's lack of attitude and determination inspires our players to lower their own efforts.
I'm not going to dispute what you said, I've heard it before but can you please point me to where I can hear that from Fergies own lips or tell me where you read it?
As I've said, I've heard it before but have never got this direct from the horses mouth so to speak.
Thanks.
He's the fecking virus.
Mourinho should certainly be sacked asap, but I can't disagree with his assessment of Pogba. He's supposed to be our marquee player, but he continually plays in a way which suggests he has no interest. What sort of effect is that likely to have on the players around him? If anything, Mourinho should have been having that conversation with Pogba months ago.
It's a gamble no matter who we get. Jose was supposed to be a sure thing, but how's that working out?
"Lies lies and damn statistics". Well if Pogba rates so highly I think all those statistics go to show is what we all ready know.
We are truly, as its Sunday I'll keep it civil. We are truly bloody awful.
Pogba is one of the most technically gifted players to ever pull on our shirt but his attitude at times is abhorrent. And he’s not alone in that, in my opinion. There are several players in that dressing-room who fall into a similar bracket. I’m just fed up of the whole fecking lot of them to be honest. Making a complete mockery of a proud footballing institution.
Yeah tend to do agree with this quite a bit. I think Pogba is a brilliant player, so above a lot of our team, but he doesn't deliver nearly as much as he should, and we pay the price for that, because he's key to everything good about us.
Get rid of both, simple.
Drop him and play someone else then you cnut jose. Just feck both out of our club. Enough of this nonsense and toxic drama.
Only an United fan can wish their best player to be sold for the sake of a stupid argument that "no player is bigger than the manager". Some of us should wake up from the SAF's dream. There are players who are bigger than the manager, even bigger than a club. If you upset your star player and you want to get rid then a dozen of big club will jump on the chance of signing him and will be ready to improve his wage.
How can a manager call his record signing a virus? how is this possible? Only at United this can be allowed to happen. If Mourinho isn't sacked this month, then I fear that Woodward and the Glazers are happy with him and he's here to stay.
The only viruses rotting this club are Mourinho, Woodward and the Glazers. Those 3 have turned this club into a circus.
How can a manager call his record signing a virus? how is this possible? Only at United this can be allowed to happen. If Mourinho isn't sacked this month, then I fear that Woodward and the Glazers are happy with him and he's here to stay.
The only viruses rotting this club are Mourinho, Woodward and the Glazers. Those 3 have turned this club into a circus.
I really wish he would just feck off talking and feck off away from our club.
They should both go, though you have to laugh at a man like Mourinho calling out others for having a shit attitude which impedes others.
It's in his book, he said that the club was eager to extend Pogba to a 3 years contract but Raiola came in the middle of the talks and convinced Pogba to move to Juventus. Though he also says that it was probably for the best because he hates Raiola due to their first encounter.
He’s our best player you fool!! Get a grip. Since when is it ideal to sell your best player. The fans are a stupid as the manager as far as I can see. No wonder why Woodward doesn’t have the balls the sack him. The supportors wouldn’t burst a grap in a food fight.
Like people have said, Mourinho will only be sacked once CL qualification is unattainable. Just like Moyes and van Gaal.
Absolutely no chance of Mourinho or Pogba still being here in 9 months, let alone 2 years.
Yes, i don't agree with you that he gives his best every game so i 'hate' him.yeah ok then
Nice to see there’s still somebody in this forum with some sense!
Not even messi would look good in this team.
No structure, no width, no movement.
We rely on individuals pulling something out the bag, luckily for Jose Rashford ran his socks off in trying. Another one of those he criticises so regularly.
You said once in 10 which is clearly exaggerating for dramatic effect. Rife with agenda.Yes, i don't agree with you that he gives his best every game so i 'hate' him.
Well this is our most basic point of disagreement. I fundamentally don't think we do, and I would suggest that the only reason you do is because our standards have fallen so low we've forgotten what standards we used to hold players to in the past.
It's the Daily Record and Duncan Castles..
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