I don't think so. It was self-interest, because if he had congratulated Pogba, the next question obviously would have been why Pogba isn't playing that well for United, then he would have had to defend his coaching, that's why he deflected that onto Pogba.
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Very interesting view mate and I never thought of it in that perspective. Thanks
Dont be silly mate!Sorry if it p!ssed you off mate please accept my apology
That "is United forum is safe to go in yet" thread was the peak of condescension going on around here, it was really unpleasant to see platform being given to openly go on like that on the forum simply because one party did not agree with the other. Therefore, emotions obviously pilled up for those that were perceived as less intellectually capable at that time and it's only normal that people want to give some of it back. Let this thread stay alive for a while it will die down soon anyway as positive emotions will finally takeover fully (as it spreads at a faster rate than negativity).
Unforgivable if the unthinkable does indeed happen.
It's horrible and it strongly looks as though it's happening. Makes me feel so conflicted because I haven't felt so positive about United in ages and yet can't consume any sort of football media because of the ongoing Scouse wankfest.
Same here. I’m thoroughly enjoying our matches again and have even taken to watching our highlights on MOTD after what feels like an age but that nauseating feeling about that shower down the road winning the title is ever-present. We need Arsenal and City to get something in these next two fixtures. It’s over if the Scousers get maximum points here. Even with the Ole-infused positivity surrounding the club right now, football in general is still hard to stomach. Those cheating, corrupt City cnuts need to get their fecking act together.
Not going to happen with their shallow squad.
Once City get over their injury bug, the pursuit will be on and I dont see Liverpool coping under the pressure, particularly when they have points of failure in VVD and Salah.
I am hoping for another slip up!
This episode made me wonder if people changed their mind about "Entertainment vs Results".
For me yes with a bit of a disclaimer, I was happy when Mouinho came in because I thought a) we would be back challenging b) he would adopt some of our ethos to playing style and we would be more early Chelsea and Real Madrid than Stoke.
It means now I would turn my noise up at Simeone and Conte even though they are top manager's.
I think that is the way Mouinho saw it as Entertainment vs Results and but the two are not mutually exclusive.
Five years of shit on a stick football have done it for me. I would not accept any pragmatic coach regardless of his record.
If you wanna believe it, it's your right .Just there is no way to be 100% sure
Exactly. Pogba has handled his communication regarding Jose, pretty well
I was one who voted results, and in the end I still think that. I'd rather us win a cup final ugly that lost it spectacularly. But overall I prefer entertaining football. I think that question in a vacuum is a hard one to really answer. I'd love us to win everything playing fantastic football, but I'd also love us to win everything playing ugly but less so than the former.
This more than any other reason he had to go.
I actually think this is true. The Liverpool game sealed it for most of the fans;I can’t think the board didn’t have their minds made up 2/3 games prior to this
We lost.an FA cup final playing ugly. Never though I’d see a Utd performance like that
I get it. I am not gonna repeat myself as it'd be pointless. He's gone and all is merry for now.
Sure, and that was horrible. The worst of the lot. I'm just saying winning still means more to me. I prefer entertaining football, and would love if we played all our games the "right" way and won the lot. But even Sir Alex played ugly when needs be. We need a manager that knows how to play ugly when the need arises, not a manager that plays ugly all the time like Mourinho.
Allegri, Simeone and Conte, all top-class coaches, master tacticians and great motivators, would be hugely disappointing appointments for the permanent position this summer if they were made due to their pragmatic style of football they favour. As you say, after five years of dour, dismal football, the fans deserve and desire attacking football again.
(Lest we forget, the latter Ferguson years served up pretty bland football also. Individual brilliance from the likes of Rooney, van Persie, Berbatov et al glossed over pretty poor football at times. We were just very efficient at getting results. I think 2007-08 was Ferguson’s last great attacking team despite seeing glimpses of it at stages of subsequent seasons thereafter e.g. the start of the 2011/12 season with Anderson, Cleverley, Rooney, Nani, Giggs etc. playing lovely free-flowing stuff.)
Under Mourinho, we have outspend Liverpool, Spur and Chelsea etc and basically everyone else except City, yet out of 3 attempts, 2 of which are 6th place "finish" in league. No one under sane mind would consider Mourinho having success here. I consider all 3 of them failure. For Mourinho case, he got us UEFA cup (significant cup success) and a 2nd place in the league (avg 4~5th place), LVG got us FA cup (significant cup success) and 4th place finish (avg 4~5th place too), but with spending half amount of money less, which is huge. Relatively speaking, I don't see big difference apart in terms of their level of success in the club
Nah. His negative, shite tactics and toxic personality is what killed him. He only has himself to blame.
Regarding the second bolded bit: then why on Earth did Mourinho insist on having his team sit so deep? It was obvious to everyone that it didn’t work. It killed our creativity, invited pressure (which made it extremely difficult for the team to transition effectively) and made us more (not less) vulnerable defensively. Yet Mourinho persisted and refused to adapt.
Do you really think that signing Perisic, swapping Martial for Willian (which I seem to remember you being a big advocate for at the time), and buying another CB or two would’ve made much of a difference?
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Yup utter, utter prick. So glad he’s gone
Glad for you cause you're glad.Yup utter, utter prick. So glad he’s gone
Not just me, 99.9999999% of our fan base and squad too. Happiness all around.
When Barcelona rejected him he made it his mission to destroy them when he became Real manager.
I think when we rejected him in 2013 he decided he’d do the same to us one day.
I think when we rejected him in 2013 he decided he’d do the same to us one day.
Good for them.
not a terrible theoryI know it hurts but time heals. You’ll soon realise what an utter cretin he is and how wrong you were to blindly defend him. You’ll then feel reinvigorated.
Jose does not care about anything apart from Jose. He will throw everyone under the bus if he can get away with it and if it benefits him.
Another happy day without Moaninho. Hugs for everyone.
He’s just an utter prick. It’s so refreshing that he’s gone and the dark cloud has been lifted.
You really want to make this into an argument? Don't be a prick.
I'm utterly shocked to hear that any United fan still supports Mourinho.
I hope it's taught people to expect both as opposed to settling for one over the other...
Cheer up babes you’ll get over it soon. Hugs.
Save the hugs your boyfriend.
I dont have anything to get over and have other things in life unlike some of you Cafe nazis.
Cheers.
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Mourinho did everything in his power to sabaotage the club in order to engineer his own sacking, yet there is a surprisingly large number of 'United fans' who are still prepared to support the guy. I can't get my head around it.
When is the culling going to begin?
I got behind him again for a bit towards the end but the result vs Liverpool was it. I genuinely didn't think the club was going to sack him but it was absolutely the correct thing to do.
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