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SteveJ

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Must have really touched this acolytes nerve for that to be used against me.
You didn't. I thought it was and still is absolutely hilarious to give moral preaching considering your stance about Fergie's last years and Mourinho when he came. Lindelof comment was also hilarious in a way because you made fun of a player who had a rough time mostly because of Jose approuch to the game which is quite obvious now.

Not sure what acolyte is, but if I got it right, yeah I do adore Fergie (delighted to see Jose go).
You're dead wrong about his last few years btw. He wasn't focused on short-term planning at all. You don't go for De Gea, Smalling, Jones, Zaha etc and leave the report about Herrera on the table for the next manager if that was on your mind. They just weren't that talented as he thought they are. So, as I said, the post about him going for short-term glory was and still is nothing short of bs.

Oh, and I already told you there is nothing wrong in changing your stance. Only fools will stick blindly to the opinion which is quite obviously wrong...
 

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You didn't. I thought it was and still is absolutely hilarious to give moral preaching considering your stance about Fergie's last years and Mourinho when he came. Lindelof comment was also hilarious in a way because you made fun of a player who had a rough time mostly because of Jose approuch to the game which is quite obvious now.

Not sure what acolyte is, but if I got it right, yeah I do adore Fergie (delighted to see Jose go).
You're dead wrong about his last few years btw. He wasn't focused on short-term planning at all. You don't go for De Gea, Smalling, Jones, Zaha etc and leave the report about Herrera on the table for the next manager if that was on your mind. They just weren't that talented as he thought they are. So, as I said, the post about him going for short-term glory was and still is nothing short of bs.

Oh, and I already told you there is nothing wrong in changing your stance. Only fools will stick blindly to the opinion which is quite obviously wrong...
Your posts don’t even make sense.

What moral stance is there to be had with Fergies last years? I don’t get the moral debate to do with Fergie - what are you even talking about?

That joke about Lindelof was more a jibe at Jose than a desire to attack Lindelof. It was a one off comment - where has there been a campaign on my behalf to shit on Lindelof?

Long term planning then you talk about Smalling, Jones and Zaha? Those signings didn’t cut mustard and prime Fergie wouldn’t have made as bad a judgement on those players and in any case, that evidence doesn’t suggest to me there was significant long term planning in mind. We had ageing strikers, injury prone full backs, ageing Carrick and a broken mid in general. There was lots of holes in that final side but through Fergies greatness we squeezed out a title but performance wise it was clear that side would need a major rebuild.
 

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Pretty much,that's why I couldnt care less about the hypocrisy in getting on their moral high horse all of a sudden now that their man has been relegated to the dustbin of history.

We all know who was spewing venom at fellow fans and players of the club all for wanting the best for the club in favor of the most toxic and polarizing man to ever come through Carringtons doors,they can miss me with the holier than thou spiel now
Yep. They deserve this but now all of a sudden we are the poison now. Bs.
 

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Why do you think so? I believed in Jose for a while and then realized he wasn't getting the job done and was happy he got fired. Now we have Ole and i couldn't be happier. Do you think people here arn't happy with the way we're performing currently? All i have seen is positive response from everyone in the caf past 2 match days.
I think every controversial topic going forward at least for the foreseeable, will evolve around whether Mourinho was right or wrong and if we should have allowed him do what he wanted.
 

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I used to have very heated debate with my mate towards the end of Sir Alex era about lack of funds, he reckons we had plenty of money I reckon the Glazers were being tight gits and holding back on spending it.
Whatever went on - the little we did have, we didn’t spend it particularly well and the Ronaldo sale was handled very poorly. The Robben swap that was mooted would have been a game changer and imagine if we had finalised the Hazard deal in the following years. Anyway that’s in the past though I am not sure why Jimmy has such a bone to pick about it.
 

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Yep

Herrera in a back vs Spurs 3-0 loss
Mctominay in a back 3 vs West Ham 3-1 loss
Mctominay and Matic in a back 3 vs Southampton lucky 2-2 draw

It was sabotage or he was trying to prove some sort of strange point to the board that he needs more defenders. Which would only work if they didn't know that there were defenders fit and available for all 3 games. Which they obviously would known so then you have to lean towards it being sabotage.
Those decisions were just wrong. So wrong they were made on purpose for some ulterior plan other than winning for sure.
I felt for how he exposed McTominay at that position. That was a poisoned gift
 

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I wanted Mourinho gone as much as the next guy, but there is a bit of revisionism with the supporters here.

When Jose arrived, we had been out of CL already for one season and missing it again would have been a disaster for us due to the loss of revenue, meaning much tighter budgets. He got us straight back to CL and a micky mouse trophy to go with it. We still proudly talk about winning more than rival clubs during our worst period and we must give credit to Jose for it.

His second season began with tremendous positivity with the signing of Lukaku and him immediately making an impact at the start of the season. We were dispatching smaller teams with ease for the first time since Fergie.

Having Jose certainly helped with signing of Pogba.
Talk about clutching at straws...

You make it sound like we cruised into top 4, but the reality is we were 6th for the entire campaign, and sneaked into the CL via winning the EL after playing giants like Saint-Etienne, Rostov, Anderlecht, Celta Vigo and finally Ajax in the final.

And having Jose might have helped with signing of Pogba, but didn't not help with playing and getting the best out of Pogba.
 
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Those decisions were just wrong. So wrong they were made on purpose for some ulterior plan other than winning for sure.
I felt for how he exposed McTominay at that position. That was a poisoned gift
He's so evil he only used McTominay last season to make a point to Pogba and this season only used him to make a point to the board about not getting a CB.
 

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I think every controversial topic going forward at least for the foreseeable, will evolve around whether Mourinho was right or wrong and if we should have allowed him do what he wanted.
How about this everything that Jose did was right but we were wrong for allowing him do it mate:lol::lol::lol:
 

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I think every controversial topic going forward at least for the foreseeable, will evolve around whether Mourinho was right or wrong and if we should have allowed him do what he wanted.
I personally think we should move on in-spite of what bad/good that's happened past 2.5 years. Players seems to have already moved on already and are showing that on the pitch. I'm all in for locking this thread if that brings more Unity to our fanbase since the change is already in place.No good can come from digging the old grave.
 

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he was trying to prove some sort of strange point to the board that he needs more defenders.
I think this mate and told my mate I thought he was pulling this stroke at the time.

Just proves he's a childish cnut who didn't get a new vintage toy (Alderweireld).
 
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He's so evil he only used McTominay last season to make a point to Pogba and this season only used him to make a point to the board about not getting a CB.
Jose is a petty little man. He'll go to extreme lengths as soon as he doesn't get his own way. I would've sympathised with him if he got down to work, try and improve what he already had and he would've got his CB in the next window. But alas, he didn't even make it to the next window. he got what he deserved
 

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Talk about clutching at straws...

You make it sound like we cruised into top 4, but the reality is we were 6th for the entire campaign, and sneaked into the CL via winning the EL after playing giants like Saint-Etienne, Rostov, Anderlecht, Celta Vigo and finally Ajax in the final.

And having Jose might have helped with signing of Pogba, but didn't not help with playing and getting the best out of Pogba.
You realize that you are doing your own club a huge disservice by underplaying Europa League trophy? Being in EL wasn't Mourinho's fault. Winning it was credit to him regardless of which teams we came up against. I am assuming you've never mentioned how we've won more trophies than liverpool and spurs in last five years.
 
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Jose is a petty little man. He'll go to extreme lengths as soon as he doesn't get his own way. I would've sympathised with him if he got down to work, try and improve what he already had and he would've got his CB in the next window. But alas, he didn't even make it to the next window. he got what he deserved
So true he can have no complaints, he didn't even try to make it work after not getting a CB.
 

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The players who are still getting the most hate are Pogba, Martial and Lukaku, and I'm not talking about how they've been playing, more to do with their personalities and what they do outside of the game. You're right about Shaw and Dalot though, they were poor last match but also looked knackered.
Lukaku is getting shit for playing shit, nothing to do with his personality.
 

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Yes. But maybe we should have taken that period to properly rebuild. Like hiring a DOF or something.

I know that I am saying this with the benefit of hindsight though.
I think they wanted a quick fix and to win a trophy again, then probably a DOF etc.

Mourinho's time at United is, for me at least, a bit of a head scrather. Really don't understand what he was trying to achieve. He had a club wanting to win again and had the boards backing.
 

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He's so evil he only used McTominay last season to make a point to Pogba and this season only used him to make a point to the board about not getting a CB.
Let's also remember his first few words after Pogba won the World Cup. It was something among the lines "he doesn't play like that for his club". Instead of publicly congratulating him and wishing he would carry that form into the season, he strangely criticized him.
 

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I think every controversial topic going forward at least for the foreseeable, will evolve around whether Mourinho was right or wrong and if we should have allowed him do what he wanted.
Nah, I think most people are relieved after his sacking.

It was close to nightmare towards the end and the level of negativity around the club was insane.
 

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I really don't like seing this thread so high up, reminds me of our ex manager, and I want to move on, you know, happy days...
Is there a button I can click and not see this thread, like ever again?
 
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Let's also remember his first few words after Pogba won the World Cup. It was something among the lines "he doesn't play like that for his club". Instead of publicly congratulating him and wishing he would carry that form into the season, he strangely criticized him.
I remember that he's such a bitter person, imagine treating one of your own players like that. He's a disgrace.
 

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I think they wanted a quick fix and to win a trophy again, then probably a DOF etc.

Mourinho's time at United is, for me at least, a bit of a head scrather. Really don't understand what he was trying to achieve. He had a club wanting to win again and had the boards backing.
I think he came here wanting to win. It was also a chance for him to prove his critics wrong.

But then City coasted past in his second season and I think he just gave up.

I think Woodward gave him that contract extension with every intention to stick to it. But then Jose resorted to old habits and threw his toys out of the pram. The Sevilla game and subsequent post match rant was the beginning of the end for him here. I think that's why he wasn't heavily backed in the Summer.
 

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Let's also remember his first few words after Pogba won the World Cup. It was something among the lines "he doesn't play like that for his club". Instead of publicly congratulating him and wishing he would carry that form into the season, he strangely criticized him.
Do you think he maybe made that comment about Pogba about yhe WC out of jealousy that he never made it very good as a player himself?
 

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Let's also remember his first few words after Pogba won the World Cup. It was something among the lines "he doesn't play like that for his club". Instead of publicly congratulating him and wishing he would carry that form into the season, he strangely criticized him.
That was so unnecessary.

I do think his worst action in the whole Pogba saga was picking up a fight with him when he knew that the Sky cameras were shooting. It seemed so calculated too.
 

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I was desperate for Mourinho to join United and seduced by his winning record to the point that I was happy to overlook the crap football and toxic atmosphere. I cannot stand the sound of his name being mentioned now. He's been nothing short of a disgrace this season. Poch wasn't backed in the transfer market but with a positive mindset Spurs are on the march in all competitions. I hate Mourinho for basically throwing our season - during a campaign that Liverpool will finally break their championship duck. The man is a cnut of the highest order.
 

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Those decisions were just wrong. So wrong they were made on purpose for some ulterior plan other than winning for sure.
I felt for how he exposed McTominay at that position. That was a poisoned gift
I think this mate and told my mate I thought he was pulling this stroke at the time.

Just proves he's a childish cnut who didn't get a new vintage toy (Alderweireld).
Yeah doing it once you could just put down to bad decision making but he did the same thing 3-4 times with similar results every time.

I definitely think it was related not only to him not getting the defender he wanted. But the leaks from the club in the press that Woodward vetoed his defensive targets because they were too old or no better than what we have.

There were plenty of years fergie didn't get every player he wanted but he just got on with it. Look at Pochettino this season after signing none of his targets.
 

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I think every controversial topic going forward at least for the foreseeable, will evolve around whether Mourinho was right or wrong and if we should have allowed him do what he wanted.
Why? He's gone. I'm quite prepared to forget about him.
 

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I personally think we should move on in-spite of what bad/good that's happened past 2.5 years. Players seems to have already moved on already and are showing that on the pitch. I'm all in for locking this thread if that brings more Unity to our fanbase since the change is already in place.No good can come from digging the old grave.
Quite agree.
I struggle to understand why we have some 92 'pages' plus a number of other similar threads about the same thing.

He says he has moved on and so should we.
The most important thing is the future not the past.
This is Ole's time.
 

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Do you think he maybe made that comment about Pogba about yhe WC out of jealousy that he never made it very good as a player himself?
Most definitely. He was jealous as hell. Like with all the other big players. The prick.
 
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I'm happy to move on, in fact I will avoid this thread from now on because I can't waste any more precious seconds thinking about Mourinho's failure.

But let me tell you one thing, the moment we eventually drop some points, I fully expect his supporters come back to this thread and gloat.
 

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Do you think he maybe made that comment about Pogba about yhe WC out of jealousy that he never made it very good as a player himself?
Maybe you're unto something but whatever the reason, it just cannot come out publicly. He was a pundit for the WC but it looks like it taught him feck all about getting the best out of Pogba. It just made him bitter, he was probably rooting for Croatia in the final
 

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Maybe you're unto something but whatever the reason, it just cannot come out publicly. He was a pundit for the WC but it looks like it taught him feck all about getting the best out of Pogba. It just made him bitter, he was probably rooting for Croatia in the final
Comment was bad but my God it so blown out of proportion. Not to mention he did give him an armband later and said there's no problem between them. Its obvious they couldn't work together but so much is made about those comments although problems started when he was subbed the first time long before.
 

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Comment had nothing to do with Jose not achieving anything as a player c’mon :lol:

They just didn’t get along at all and mourinho being his usual passive aggressive weird self.
 

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Comment had nothing to do with Jose not achieving anything as a player c’mon :lol:

They just didn’t get along at all and mourinho being his usual passive aggressive weird self.
The reason why I asked "Do you think he maybe made that comment about Pogba about the WC out of jealousy that he never made it very good as a player himself" is I think Jose has narcissism.
I was discussing with a poster a few days ago.

I also read lots of manager become manager's due to them not being able to cut it as footballer. I read Jose didn't make it as a footballer partly through not being strong enough, that is the reason in my opinion why he has so many big strong players in his team.

Jealousy is a trait of narcissism and narcissists ego's can not take it when people can do things they can't, in this case Pogba being a good enough footballer and to win WC and Jose not. This would make a narcissist very bitter, so this may have been the reason why Jose made the comment mate.
 
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