I might have a skewed view on LVG as I always found him genuine and entertaining. My view of Jose is that he is a grumpy and misserable bastard. That in it self might be the reason, I agree with what you said that the press is full of shite. But I just have no time for Jose anymore.
Mourinho Presser (Spurs Home)
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Grow up will you - that isn't even funny and your happy clappy brown tongue exaggeration is an embarrassment to our support.
At this time I was completely against LVG as a manager and still find the media deserved this treatment. Let's agree to disagree.
I admit I lost patience with Moyes relatively early (couldn't get over Sir Alex leaving that quickly) but I was sympathetic with LVG.
Or maybe the Board is no longer that ambitious about bringing in more silverware?
I stopped supporting Moyes since the 4-1 derby defeat. That was very early, I think second month of the season.
Was very pro LVG when he came and fully supported him during first season and first part of second one. Think I started to turn against him since the loss to Norwich 2-1 at Old Trafford.
Was very pro LVG when he came and fully supported him during first season and first part of second one. Think I started to turn against him since the loss to Norwich 2-1 at Old Trafford.
I’m so sorry
Lot of assumptions in that post.
He's feeling the pressure no doubt.
Jose done good in that presser.. treated those scumbags with all the contempt they deserve.
As for all the negative anti Mourinho brigade, to be honest I've been reading these posts from day 1 of him being made manager.
And all I can say is that 90% of them have been just as bad as the gutter press. Making mountains out of mole hills, and unable to see anything beyond their own hate filled agenda. The term 'witch hunt' comes to mind, sharpening pitchforks, and taking anything and every possibly to hurl abuse, and downright negativity around at every opportunity.. it's beyond pathetic. it comes over like a spoilt little child, not getting what they want, right now, just how they want it. And jealous of every other kids new toy..
I could go on but I'd probably get banned.
As for all the negative anti Mourinho brigade, to be honest I've been reading these posts from day 1 of him being made manager.
And all I can say is that 90% of them have been just as bad as the gutter press. Making mountains out of mole hills, and unable to see anything beyond their own hate filled agenda. The term 'witch hunt' comes to mind, sharpening pitchforks, and taking anything and every possibly to hurl abuse, and downright negativity around at every opportunity.. it's beyond pathetic. it comes over like a spoilt little child, not getting what they want, right now, just how they want it. And jealous of every other kids new toy..
I could go on but I'd probably get banned.
I'm sorry, Ban, for maybe incorrectly quoting your post, I'm still muddling my way through the mechanics.
I wanted to quote it because I 100% agree with your sentiment. And not just the idea that one poster is making some assumptions in one post.
It just seems to be so much crap being spouted by various media outlets, and maybe lies and myths being propagated, that at times it almost seems like we're living in an alternative reality where no news is real news (or FAKE NEWS - thanks Donald).
Where is this great conflict between Ed and Mourinho? What reasons do we have for mass protests and uprisings? I just can't see it. Some tired players played crap football, that's what I see. Mourinho was very careful to say it would be a difficult season ahead with the worthless pre-season we had...to me, this is what's now happening.
Maybe I'm blind to it all and hoping for the best, but looks like there's a huge tide of negative click-driven penny-scandal stories flooding the sports pages, and a lot of fans are falling for it and amplifying the bollox. I could be wrong - often am, but that's what it looks like right now.
I really think the equivalent MUTV interview needs to be posted in here. You will see that he is purposefully treating the outside media like garbage because they absolutely deserve it. They have chewed us up and spat us all over the papers for the past 2-3 weeks and we’re supposed to accept it? He answers the same questions in the MUTV interview with a much much more natural relaxed mood.
Why is this a surprise? The UK press is a raft of total garbagemen. The amount of absolute dross they write about United he shouldn't even need to do pressers. They'll just write nonsensical wumming garbage to play to the moaners no matter what he says.
I think we should hire LVG just to do pressers but make him wear a Jose face mask.
A harsh but fair summary of the events surrounding the club right now. I don't disagree with any of it unfortunately.
I think Jose is reaching (reached?) a point in his tenure where every game is a win or bust scenario. He needs the players to show him their support by fighting tooth and nail on the pitch, the problem is I don't think they are prepared to do that - at least not all of them anyway. The writing is on the wall for Jose and he will need a minor miracle if he is to stay on beyond this season.
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Thats a ridiculous thing to say. They need the club to stay successful otherwise all the foreign fans will slowly disappear, the sponsors will then either leave or wont want to pay as much, the shirt manufactors next deal wont be offering so much, same as the shirt sponsor etc. They are geared up for success off the field, but surely know this only happens if successful on the field.
I don't believe it was a deliberate effort to undermine the manager. I do believe that they don't much fancy him anymore and therefore were not inclined to invest in his preferred targets.
Next season!? You're having a laugh!
Time will tell, I suppose, but I will be absolutely amazed if he's still the manager this time next year.
I prefer 'logical inference'.
So why the heck didn't they invest money in the team when the team clearly needed more investments this Summer? Even the most naïve football fan knew we needed to fix some areas in the team. And don't tell me it is because they don't trust Jose. If that is the case, then they have to look themselves in the mirror and fire whoever just gave him a fresh contract!
Think people here are entirely missing the point. The press would absolutely love Jose. He gets clicks and sells papers by providing them w ammunition. This is exactly the type of press conference that they'd feed off.
The press deserve this treatment without any doubt but above and beyond Mourinho is also an embassador for a global brand in Manchester United - and in that role he fails miserably. And in their hearts of hearts United supporters know that the same misery Mourinho shows in these press conferences his team shows on the field. Time has passed him by, he's pretty much done as club manager on the top level.
He should stay low key now and try to act normally without being arrogant nor tough IMO he needs to be more diplomatic and they might give him a break then. Just take it easy Jose he knows they are cnuts but what he is doing is exactly what they looking for.
I agree with you to a degree but I'm yet to find someone whom I respect that has the opinion of 'Jose out'
You don't respect our legends then? Most of them(Scholes, Rio, Neville etc.) would get down on their knees if it meant getting an attacking manager.
Didnt Mourinho say something about both Liverpool and Tottenham last week when he said something along the lines of "journalists creating negativity around United, while clubs that finished below us and won absolutely nothing are made out to be the greatest thing ever"? Why would he have to repeat himself AND publicly name Tottenham as one of the clubs he talked about, when everyone knows very well what he thinks of Tottenham and Pochettino.
A team that finishes 19 points behind the league winner needs more investment than a central midfielder and young fullback. United have no excuses for having such a poor transfer window when Liverpool managed to fix so many deficiencies in their squad. Liverpool's owners seem to genuinely be interested in winning the league and competing in Europe while ours are more interested in exploiting the Manchester United brand and investing only as much as required to keep the club in the Champions League.
Damn that was long
Yea but not in here, cnut Custis became a decent journo here suddenly, media wasnt bunch of cnuts during last 6 months of LvG.
I didnt understand the part about Spurs and how they did their shit. Is it regarding them not having a single transfer? If so, no comment is freaking rich. If not, he should tell them to just feck off.
Lol is the response of someone who has no legitimate points to make once someone calls them out for a foolish agenda. Enjoy the cognitive dissonance.
I'll give credit to Jose: That was a brilliant set of answers, to some very stupid questions.lol.
Jose is a hero for doing this.
The contract was given almost 6 months before the summer window, and during a period when the team was still doing alright. Given that the 2nd half of the season was the turning point for many fans as the football really turned to shit, I don't see why we're assuming that nothing changed in the period between the manager's new contract and his non-backing in the transfer window.
Imo the board deserves huge blame for making 3 wrong managerial appointments in a row. However, refusing to splurge on a manager who hasn't been able to make the most of his resources and has been dividing the fanbase with his contentious ways is something I agree with. Either Jose proves he still has it in his locker to get his team playing properly (even if we win nothing), or we save money for the next manager.
Edit: That said, Jose gets credit for behaving himself in recent weeks.
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Haha. Jose's been a target from media. I would do the same thing if I were him.
Did the press make up the story that Woodward was unhappy with Mourinho's transfer targets? Did they also invent the Football Director story? Is Raiola happy about the situation of Pogba. There's Martial. There's the quality of football and defeat at Brighton.
These events trigger questions from fans and therefore the press.
I feel a bit sorry for Mourinho because he is publicly under scrutiny and has been put in a difficult situation by the CEO. He has been made to look powerless, but the club in answerable to the supporters, and that is what press conferences are about and why football insists that they happen.
Maybe they think being successful means getting the top 4 and that's it.
Exactly. Its a classic I believe what I want to believe stuff by some.
Looking at it like that I think it was the age of the player wanted that put them off. If true that they would spunk 100 million on Verane but not 75 million on Alderwierald or 70 million on Willian as they would need replacing in a couple of years then this leans towards that theory. Im only saying if Utd dont start winning titles soon surely they realise this will hit the profit margin.