If I learnt anything from playing for FC Go-Cat, it's that the manager has a right to make big decisions, whether they turn out good or bad; after all, he's the most likely one to lose his job...not always due to his own competence.
Moyes So Far!
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What do you make of all of this, Steve? I was skimming through a thread earlier and saw you saying that we don't know if all the crosses yesterday was Moyes' tactic, and you thought it was down to the players lack of skill/imagination. I think that's essentially what you said. Surely you can't believe that? The style of our play yesterday absolutely has to have come from the manager. He has nothing to lose from now until the end of the season in the league, nobody will expect us to even get into the top 4, there has to be some change in style and results now, something to show that he's able to manage a team like United and get them playing good football and get results. The players at his disposal are not an excuse. They are good players. There's no lack of effort on the pitch either.
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'Truth is, I don't know what the main problem is. I've no reason to 'support' Moyes except for a sense of fairness - I'd like to let him have one full season, and then see where we are (& then a decision might be made by the board). As for the players, well, we all have our favourites & scapegoats and probably all of us have doubts about the quality of certain players; that's nothing new for the Caf.
'Truth is, I don't know what the main problem is. I've no reason to 'support' Moyes except for a sense of fairness - I'd like to let him have one full season, and then see where we are (& then a decision might be made by the board). As for the players, well, we all have our favourites & scapegoats and probably all of us have doubts about the quality of certain players; that's nothing new for the Caf.
Do Moyes' supporters see him changing tactics? I assume they'd have to.
Have the Glazers shown up at Old Trafford this season yet?
There are a number of players whose time's up, no doubt - rio, vidic, pat, giggs will be gone. Others aren't good enough to be starting for United at the top level, young, Valencia, most of the midfield.Hello, chief.
'Truth is, I don't know what the main problem is. I've no reason to 'support' Moyes except for a sense of fairness - I'd like to let him have one full season, and then see where we are (& then a decision might be made by the board). As for the players, well, we all have our favourites & scapegoats and probably all of us have doubts about the quality of certain players; that's nothing new for the Caf.
Moyes style of play is by far my biggest issue, it doesn't seem to make a difference who he picks, the way he has us playing is awful. Think nazi Danny would be doing a better job
I think this is it. I don't think there is a main problem..just a collection of things that are not right culminating in one rather disturbing collapse of a team that is certainly not as bad as some people make out. New manager, new backroom staff, loss of a huge talisman, lethargy, lack of hunger, loss of confidence...goodness knows what else....Hello, chief.
'Truth is, I don't know what the main problem is. I've no reason to 'support' Moyes except for a sense of fairness - I'd like to let him have one full season, and then see where we are (& then a decision might be made by the board). As for the players, well, we all have our favourites & scapegoats and probably all of us have doubts about the quality of certain players; that's nothing new for the Caf.
Yeah but Fred the red is still smiling.
So is Moyes!
not sure the poor bugger inside the costume is though. Probably got a face like thunder. Would love him to attack Moyes in the dug out....
I'd be over the moon too in his situation. Guaranteed a nice fat pay off.
Look how happy he is
...he's celebrating having the most crosses from a team ever
Look how happy he is
"The football's shite, the players are shite, the manager's shite, the fans are shite, the city's shite, and to top it off I have wear this ridiculous shite, where is he?"
I worry that the players don't have the intelligence or desire to take it on themselves to do something different. Michael Carrick has a shot and it went in, more luck than design, it went in. Why weren't they trying that earlier. Do you think a Messi or Ronaldo would be thinking, Damn you Fulham, you've sussed us out, of course not they would take matters into their own hands and try something different. I thought they were taking the mickey yesterday with all those crosses. All it did was prove, as if we didn't already know, that they are rubbish at crossing.Hello, chief.
'Truth is, I don't know what the main problem is. I've no reason to 'support' Moyes except for a sense of fairness - I'd like to let him have one full season, and then see where we are (& then a decision might be made by the board). As for the players, well, we all have our favourites & scapegoats and probably all of us have doubts about the quality of certain players; that's nothing new for the Caf.
Got that from RoM - I hadn't seen or read the bolded part any place else but, if it's what he said, and he truly believes we tried to play in a manner that didn't involve getting the ball on the sides and trying to put it in dangerous areas - then I need to rethink my position on supporting his continued tenure.
I was probably one of the only ones yesterday that was like "Ok, I can see why he hasn't tried to get them to play through the middle because they've overloaded the central areas, so the better option was to attack from the sides".
The only variation other than that was a few balls over the top for RVP and Rooney to try get behind but, those were only a few. I can't think of a single moment where we tried to even once play with the likes of Rooney, RVP, Mata, Young and any of the CM with quick shorter passing through the middle.
Is he talking about the passes it took to get the ball out to a crossing position? Because ultimately that is all our passing was about, getting players in a position to cross the ball, there was no intent in our passing to try play through their packed defense in the box.
Oh how i wished him to do well i really did. Think he's a decent bloke and thought he was a good manager and still do but maybe not fit for a top team, midtable manager i think. Losing my faith every passing game.
the main thing that was annoying for me, and of course it's been mentioned elsewhere on here, but after thumping crosses in for so long, with no result, there was no change of tactics from Moyes...just nothing...just the same thing. It wasn't working, most were not accurate, surely a tactical manager would have changed things...tried something else, altered things. I don't know...just seems obvious and sensible to me...
To be fair the crosses did work eventually though. We screwed it up by conceding that stupid goal at the end.
It's still noway to set up a Manchester United side. Barrage after barrage of crosses until one drops for us.
You see this is why I feel sorry for him. He's desperate for something good to happen. He was the same when he got Mata - the cat that caught the canary.
Look how happy he is
But who is he actually aiming that celebration at?
PTME
Manchester United striker Javier Hernandez frustrated at lack of playing time under David Moyes
Surely Hernandez would be best suited to Moyes' game plan?
Carrick had a shot in the first half. Yesterday wasn't just about crossing, however given how deep and narrow Fulham were and how much possession we had there were always going to be many crosses
Alan Pardieu on Sky talking about how they were happy with the Fulham result as they now want to over-take us in the table, ffs.
he really is a first class tit isn't he.....deary me...
At the time I thought that celebration was small time and I guess it is. I do feel sympathy for him watching it back though. He is so desperate to get things right but it just isn't happening.
He has to take the blame for the tactics, not the players! Can't believe that I have to type that sentence. He was briefing Januzaj for a couple of minutes before he came on and as soon as Adnan got the ball he started smashing crosses in like a man possessed. The sum total of Moyes's tactical diversity was to put Adnan on the opposite flank for a while. It certainly seems that Moyes believes in the percentages. The sums didn't add up yesterday though.
He has to take the blame for the tactics, not the players! Can't believe that I have to type that sentence. He was briefing Januzaj for a couple of minutes before he came on and as soon as Adnan got the ball he started smashing crosses in like a man possessed. The sum total of Moyes's tactical diversity was to put Adnan on the opposite flank for a while. It certainly seems that Moyes believes in the percentages. The sums didn't add up yesterday though.
He's the manager of the club chasing us for a spot in the Europa League, why is he not in his rights to be happy we dropped points making it easier for them to catch us? This is our level now, being hunted for seventh by Newcastle, and as long as Moyes is here we all need to get used to it.
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I would actually have more sympathy if he did accept some responsibility. Its always injuries, or referees, or fixtures being rigged, or transfer windows being difficult, or just not have any luck. I can't stand listening to him anymore.
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Another subtle dig at Moyes? This is becoming an absolute farce at this stage.
The Guardian ~ Jose Mourinho claims he is sorry about Manchester United's plight
You can feel inside he's smiling about what's happened to us, the board were idiotic not to appoint him.
You can feel inside he's smiling about what's happened to us, the board were idiotic not to appoint him.
Whose account it is? Zaha'?
Another subtle dig at Moyes? This is becoming an absolute farce at this stage.
Yeah, Zaha's.
I hope he enjoys playing for Cardiff in the Championship, that post might have made sure he doesn't come back here. Silly boy.
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