They play City on the 3rd and Burnley on the 13th so I don't see why they need to bring out the reserves. Every point is crucial for them at this stage so they might as well go for it.
Neil Warnock returns to the PL
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Not if they go down by a point. They’d have deserved to stay up then, surely?
Already missing a key Central Defender for the rest of the season, so what’s the point in playing the 1st team in a fixture that they will lose anyway, could risk further injuries/suspensions etc....send the kids to play Citeh
Nah I don’t believe in the relegated because of 1 game excuse, you’re relegated because you’re shit over the course of the season. Whether it’s 1 point or 10
I think that's a pretty harsh reflection on what he's done this season to be fair. Their squad is shit, and they spent no money in the summer compared to the other teams that went up. They were odds on favourites to do down at the start of the year.
They'll probably go down, but the fact they've made a fight of it and had to deal with the fallout of the Sala crash is to Warnock's credit – even if his record before hand in the league is not.
They’ve actually done better than I expected. I genuinely thought they might go down with one of the lowest points tally’s ever, after the first few months of the season. Their squad is beyond bad.
They’ve put up a better fight than I expected but are still probably going down.
Huddersfield and Brighton both stayed up last year with similarly poor squads and a lack of big spending. Newcastle were arguably stronger but didn’t spend much. The difference is that they had much better managers at PL level than Warnock.
Also, maybe if they’d hired someone with a bit more knowledge of leagues outside of England than a Brexit dinosaur like Colin, they might have been able to bring in some smart signings from overseas to keep them up like Brighton did. Instead of signing Pascal Groß for £3m, they paid £25 for players from Bristol City, Norwich and Preston.
Yeah, there's some truth there, but Fulham's experience shows that that's not a sure fire thing either.
I don't think we need to be so black and white about it. I think he's done a pretty good job this year, given the quality of his squad and the Sala situation (although that said, I think his involvement with the agents that led to the dodgy circumstances of that flight won't reflect well on him) without being amazing. People have definitely done more with less in the past, but that shouldn't invalidate the fact that he's done better than most of us expected.
Yeah, I’ll give him some credit for this season and arguably the Sheffield Utd relegation season saw them overperform. There’s been some extenuating circumstances in both of those seasons.
Still, he’s likely to be 0/4 at keeping clubs up now and imo Cardiff would’ve stood a better chance if they’d gambled on someone a bit more forward thinking and suited to Premier League football.
Not really sure that's how it works, Huddersfield's team is pretty much entirely foreign and they've just gone down.
If you look at the bigger picture, they stayed up last season despite being the worst team on paper. Wagner massively overachieved with them.
They basically didn’t invest at all over the summer. Their main signings were permanent transfers of players they already had on loan. If I’m appointing a manager for a lower PL club and my choices are Wagner or Warnock, it’s a no brainer.
Kind of proves my point by saying he overachieved with that set of players, they went abroad and the players they signed weren't good. Not that I disagree with you that paying ridiculous sums for Championship players is a good strategy either.
Even if they were failures (which a lot of them weren’t in the first season) they’d still be cheap failures compared to wasting £10 on Bobby Reid.
He’s done well to do keep them in the relegation scrap this long. Cardiff weren’t ready for promtotion in my opinion.
Look at the budget he is working on... the guy is performing miracles and if Cardiff stay up should be manager of the year. He has only had 2 full seasons in the Premier League so this not a Premier League Manager is nonsense.
46% of his matches in the Premier League have resulted in a win or a draw. For the teams he has managed that is not a bad record.
46% of his matches in the Premier League have resulted in a win or a draw. For the teams he has managed that is not a bad record.
And two more seasons where he was sacked midway through with his team looking certs for relegation.
He spent over £30m on Championship players over the summer. His budget isn’t as small as you think, he just spends it on trash.
The state of Warnock in this video
Already back in PL?
That was fast!
That was fast!
He is responsible for my first and second favourite moments of this season, that's how bad it's been as a United fan.
Its not to my taste, but having been in amateur football for a long long time, this type of personality works in some environments. That's just a fact. In certain leagues and certain levels it's almost required
Fantastic entertainment and he a decent run with Sheffield United so it's not like it his methods were useless. Their fans generally hold him in high regard for what he was able to do while he was there.
Remember watching that at the time, think Sky filmed it as a documentary, around 2005. They went up the following year.
That's actually fecking great I think. Warnock's not a bully. His players are allowed to give him shit back. He shouts but he'll listen to what they've got to say and not hold a grudge. And they went up that year. Its a great documentary.
Out of curiosity do you play? If so what position?
The following year I think. That last dressing room clip, well he was right when he said they won't be a soft touch next year. It could well have planted some seeds in his player's minds.
The whole thing with Kevin Muscat was good too. Showed he had the players backs, told them to be smart and not retaliate then talked crap to the Millwall players at the end. Fair play there.
That clip where they presumably had a good second half after a poor first half was a decent one as well. Yes, he raged but ended up calming down and saying they'll take the positives from it. He's trying to make sure they keep their levels up for full games which is obviously something you've got to do.
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Not for a long time, then coaching. Nothing now.
Huge fan of his. Very underrated manager as well. He takes mid table Championship sides and gets them promoted. Then he generally gets zero backing in the Prem and has to try and stay up with an average Championship side. The only exception was QPR. Did a great job to keep Cardiff in with a shout of staying up and had a lot of bad decisions against them.
That documentary is great as well, he loves his players and most seem to love him.
That documentary is great as well, he loves his players and most seem to love him.
Remember reading that one of Warnock's half time team talks has been regularly used on UEFA A, B and pro license courses and on national coaching courses run by various FA's across the world as an example of how exactly not to coach.
Add in the fact that Warnock has in the past told his players to go out to deliberately injure opponents and I have no idea why anyone would either like or rate him in the slightest. The only plus to having him in the PL was that we got to laugh as his inevitably shit team inevitably got relegated.
Add in the fact that Warnock has in the past told his players to go out to deliberately injure opponents and I have no idea why anyone would either like or rate him in the slightest. The only plus to having him in the PL was that we got to laugh as his inevitably shit team inevitably got relegated.
The fact that he even gets teams into the PL is why people rate him.
I'd be interested to see the source for it, I've just googled it and the only relevant hit is a thread where @Stacks claims it (and you were active in that thread so I assume that's where you saw it originally?).
I'm not saying it's not true, but I'd be interested in reading a bit more about it if it is.
Yep, I love how he embraces modern methodology in coaching practice.
Wouldn't surprise me if it were true. Wasn't he manager when Chris Morgan retired Iain Hulme with a horrendous elbow?
I was never that bothered about him up to about 2007. Had loads of sympathy when Sheffield got relegated despite West Ham fielding Tevez and Mascherano illegally for last 10 games. They got fined 5m which is ridiculous amount for pro team to be fined by premier league bottled out of a points deduction.
Shortly afterwards I read his autobiography and it was one of the most enjoyable books on football I've read.
I get he's not everyone's cup of tea in how he behaves/sends his teams out to play but it is what it is and he at least dosen't tend to sugercoat things. People still bow down to Mourinho on this forum and he pokes rival managers in the eye so even the best have their flaws when things go against them.
No he'd moved on to Palace by then.
It all stems from a game against WBA in 2002.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Bramall_Lane
Did Fergie ever get a UEFA coaching badge? I know at the time that Warnock documentary was made he didn't, and only had an honourary FA diploma for time-served as of 2008. Don't think UEFA would have liked his hairdryer if that was on camera either, particularly in his early career. Not that I'm comparing Warnock to him in terms of ability of course, that would be madness! Just wondering if the qualifications are all they are cracked up to be. UEFA are accountants and office administration assistants when it comes down to it.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/6189330.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/6189330.stm
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I just watched this now - brilliantYes Mourinho poked 25 managers in the eye.
On a serious note I agree with @FootballHQ . There is a snobbery regarding the careers of Warnock, Big Sam or Dyche. As if not being progressive makes you a joke.