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Suspect it might be a 2 year + optional extra year deal rather than a straight 3 year deal. Similar to the one Mata signed last summer.
Didn't we feck that policy up with Fellaini?We did, then Mata signed a 2 year Contract.
Didn't want to derail the transfer thread so responding here. Like you poimted out I feel 3 years is more to do with the club feeling positive about Garner. I don't mind this extension, I doubt we are going to spend big on a midfielder this season so let us keep Matic and groom Garner. If it doesn't work out buy a cm next season and you can still sell Matic and get something for him.Yeah 3 years seems mental to me. Should be 2 at max. I'd expect a really good season from him next season, with his level drastically dropping from that point, so you'd hope we was bringing someone through at that point.
Only thing I can think is we've got a slot of promising youngsters in our academy that could come through to play that position, along with seeing what Fred and McTominay develop into.
Yeah, I suspect that too.Suspect it might be a 2 year + optional extra year deal rather than a straight 3 year deal. Similar to the one Mata signed last summer.
Surely the guy who managed to handle it was more at fault!Not a very good game, at fault for a penalty. Still got an assist today
At fault for giving away a possible corner really.Not a very good game, at fault for a penalty. Still got an assist today
He's the only top class option we have in the positionAbsolutely stupid. Can we stop praising stupidity. He’s 32 why the hell does he need to be here until 2023?
There’s a transfer thread talking about his replacement. This is the poor planning we keep talking about but then we are cheering decisions like these. Just keep the same every when we don’t sign his replacement.
Maybe its because the financials are such that we could only spend on Sancho and put off signing his replacement for another window.Absolutely stupid. Can we stop praising stupidity. He’s 32 why the hell does he need to be here until 2023?
There’s a transfer thread talking about his replacement. This is the poor planning we keep talking about but then we are cheering decisions like these. Just keep the same every when we don’t sign his replacement.
It doesnt mean he will be a key player until 2023. We will phase him out soon, but we also need an experienced head in midfield. If we manage him well, he can play 2-3 years as a squad player. But we also need to think about replacing him soon. But his replacement should get some time to take over, rather than thrown into the deep end and failing.Absolutely stupid. Can we stop praising stupidity. He’s 32 why the hell does he need to be here until 2023?
There’s a transfer thread talking about his replacement. This is the poor planning we keep talking about but then we are cheering decisions like these. Just keep the same every when we don’t sign his replacement.
My problem is we always fail to look at past decisions and examples then look dumbfounded when they bite us in the ass again.He's the only top class option we have in the position
He's said clearly that he wants to help McT improve
Just because he's signed a contract for that long doesn't mean he'll stay that long. He's clearly a person that wants to be somewhere he'll play regularly and will no doubt want to leave if he gets benched, meaning we can sell him for a fee.
This doesn't stop us signing another top quality DM
What the hell is your problem with him staying as long as Carrick when he's clearly a superior player.
I agree but we as a club don’t do that and Matic isn’t a guy that likes the bench. But I can hope his replacement is coming in next summer like it should.It doesnt mean he will be a key player until 2023. We will phase him out soon, but we also need an experienced head in midfield. If we manage him well, he can play 2-3 years as a squad player. But we also need to think about replacing him soon. But his replacement should get some time to take over, rather than thrown into the deep end and failing.
2 years would have been better, but contrary to other deadwood like Mata, Matic still will have plenty to offer as a DM.
Pretty muchMy problem is we always fail to look at past decisions and examples then look dumbfounded when they bite us in the ass again.
I agree he’s an important player now and will be next season. But he’s getting on in age. He’s not going to get any better and like you said he isn’t a bench player. The McT thing sounds nice but he’s never going to be as good as Matic he’s a box to box CM and will never be what Matic his. When we starting planning better and do the things we said a DoF should be doing you will be looking at players like Matic and moving him on correctly.
Your acting like we extend first team players and faze them out? When has that happened? We drain them until there’s nothing left and they always leave too late.
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Yeah, looks like we'll be doing the same with Mata too hes being linked to a move to Turkey.Haven't we sold Fellaini and Young after extending their contracts?
Stop being a smart arse. We changed manager who didn’t like Fellaini otherwise he’d still be here and do you have amnesia? We pretty much begged Ashley Young to stay. Good thing he actually did us a favour and left otherwise he’d still be here.Haven't we sold Fellaini and Young after extending their contracts?
He will realise in 2 years that he is done and be quiet on the bench. You can't expect to start as a 33.34 year old that many games at United.I agree but we as a club don’t do that and Matic isn’t a guy that likes the bench. But I can hope his replacement is coming in next summer like it should.
Smalling and Rojo's contracts were extended and we're looking to get rid. Honestly i doubt Matic will be here in 2023, this club just likes extending contracts for the sake of itStop being a smart arse. We changed manager who didn’t like Fellaini otherwise he’d still be here and do you have amnesia? We pretty much begged Ashley Young to stay. Good thing he actually did us a favour and left otherwise he’d still be here.
But maybe I’m wrong and please tell me if these stories are different?
*coughs* Phil Jones *cough*Smalling and Rojo's contracts were extended and we're looking to get rid. Honestly i doubt Matic will be here in 2023, this club just likes extending contracts for the sake of it
I just asked a question, can't you have a conversation normally?Stop being a smart arse. We changed manager who didn’t like Fellaini otherwise he’d still be here and do you have amnesia? We pretty much begged Ashley Young to stay. Good thing he actually did us a favour and left otherwise he’d still be here.
But maybe I’m wrong and please tell me if these stories are different?
You/we have absolutely no idea what the plans are for that position. I think he'll be a regular next season and then help Garner in the role the season after, sharing playing time, taking him to the final year of his contract. I can't see us buying another top DM this summer but maybe we will next summer. I don't see any problem in him being around for another 2 or 3 years to help transition an eventual replacement in any case. We need experienced role models and players who've won everything and Matic is literally the only one unless you include Maguire (who's won little). I'm a fan of Pogba as a world class player but I wouldn't call him a role model.My problem is we always fail to look at past decisions and examples then look dumbfounded when they bite us in the ass again.
I agree he’s an important player now and will be next season. But he’s getting on in age. He’s not going to get any better and like you said he isn’t a bench player. The McT thing sounds nice but he’s never going to be as good as Matic he’s a box to box CM and will never be what Matic his. When we starting planning better and do the things we said a DoF should be doing you will be looking at players like Matic and moving him on correctly.
Your acting like we extend first team players and faze them out? When has that happened? We drain them until there’s nothing left and they always leave too late.
Pretty much this and if we sign a DM in the next year or two then there can be a natural transition to the new midfielder (or even an academy lad).I just asked a question, can't you have a conversation normally?
All of these are excuses. I mean Matic himself seemed at one point someone the manager doesn't like. And please, nobody was begging Young to stay. If we wanted him that badly he would've stayed.
Simply, there's no guarantee he's staying the full extent of his contract. And while I agree the length of the contract is a bit much, I just like to wait and see especially when the player is performing.
I think 2 is the sweet spot for Matic, but if it’s 2+1 then that’s ideal in my book.Should have been one year extension at best. Can already imagine people calling Matic deadwood and attacking Ole for extending his contract a year from now
If we wasn’t begging Ashley Young to stay. Why did we try to offer him a contract in January?I just asked a question, can't you have a conversation normally?
All of these are excuses. I mean Matic himself seemed at one point someone the manager doesn't like. And please, nobody was begging Young to stay. If we wanted him that badly he would've stayed.
Simply, there's no guarantee he's staying the full extent of his contract. And while I agree the length of the contract is a bit much, I just like to wait and see especially when the player is performing.