Film Netflix pay $450m for Knives Out sequels
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No Ana De Armas?
Thats disappointing..
Thats disappointing..
Yeah I can see that. I don't really know how to quantify Netflix's off-the-main-track selection in relative terms, but in absolute numbers, there is an enormous quantiy of international material on there. It might be all stuff that was big and commercial in their home country, but I don't know; and again, that's anyway more than would ever have reached me otherwise. (E.g., how would I ever get access to a quirky, artistic South Korean film?)
In general, I think I see Netflix, and the other big streaming platforms that we have now, as equivalent to the big studios. If you look at those now (i.e., contemporary with the streamers), the vast majority of their output is also easily digestible fare with limited artistic or other value. And then now and again they do produce something 'better' (as a shorthand) - but so does Netflix, like The Irishman, Roma, Okja, Marriage Story, and lots of very well received series (and I'm not just talking about the American ones).
I have no idea what Netflix pays for its exclusive rights, and Spotify is certainly horrible in that respect; but I don't really understand your public availability point. It's not like films were available for free previously. A month of Netflix (which you can cancel right after that month again) costs less than a cinema ticket, and not much more than the rental fee for a dvd. It's similar for other streamers. For example, I personally like Pixar's films and dislike that they now go straight to Disney+ (since cinemas are mostly closed). If I ever have an urge to watch them, though, I can subscribe to Disney+ for a month, see them all, and pay less than I would have in cinema. Or I can still rent them for free from my local library. (No idea if Netflix films appear on DVD though.) And it's not like tv was free before, or reliably showed you all the 'better' films you might want to see. So I don't see the crucial difference with before.in this respect.
Also, in terms of artistic films with limited commercial appeal: without meaning to speak for every place in the world, in countries where I've been, film makers have usually only been able to create those through the aid of subsidy programs. It's only with that backing that companies with distribution networks would sign on. Again, I don't see too much change there with streamers on the scene. The problem here, I think, is that the globalist approach of those may be detrimental to smaller local markets with less global potential; but at least here in Canada, the government is working on regulation to integrate Netflix into national artistic objectives/programs. I don't remember the details right now, but I would expect this discussion to happen in many places.
I feel like I sound like a Netflix fanboy here, but that's not it. I am just still (sorry!) not really seeing how Netflix and other streamers are significantly affecting in film development and availability - if I can boil it down to that. I mean, as much as I enjoy a big action film or easy romcom occasionally, they are really not the genres I'm look out for (anymore) for myself, and I wish I had easier access to a better selection of films. Even if it's just Bong Joon-ho's oeuvre, who is hardly in the artistic underground. I am just not yet (sorry again!) seeing how Netflix is negatively affecting this.
In case it helps, I only use Spotify occasionally, for the purpose of discovering new music which I then buy; I try to buy local when I can; and if I can't, I only buy things through other vendors on Amazon, to avoid going through their warehouses and its abused staff.
She's great. Yes she's obviously gorgeous but she's also a really good actress.
Happy we are getting sequels, just hope all the good stuff was not put into one movie.
Great news! I loved the first one and Craig is always 
As someone who does some short story writing myself (as well as periodically working on a more feature-length style script) this is interesting to me. Did the studio keep in contact with you? Or did things go radio silent? Must be frustrating not knowing if/when anything is going to happen with your script. I guess that's the game really, but still...
Also, you mention the money you received but how you would have got much more if the movie got made. Don't mean to pry too much here, but any idea what sort of figure we're talking about? Obviously these things differ depending on the film, of course, but was just wondering if a fee was already agreed upon if the movie got made. Feel free to tell me to mind my own business if it's too much of a personal question!
Saw the sequel on Netflix, it was fun
Craig's accent is unintentionally bad that it's so funny. The story was decent but good fun and a good time pass.
I'd defo watch a third
Craig's accent is unintentionally bad that it's so funny. The story was decent but good fun and a good time pass.
I'd defo watch a third
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i dont get why they paid so much for this shit?
They love wasting money and cancelling the only shows worth shit.
I watched it last night, first part was much better. Decent movie, nothing else.
Spending 450m on this when something ridiculous like Fast and Furious Five(for example)was under 125m was a daylight robbery.
Most of the exterior scenes were CGI and it was s single picture and not a video material any time they showed the "Glass onion" from the outside, I seriously thought the budget was very low until someone bumped this thread.
Spending 450m on this when something ridiculous like Fast and Furious Five(for example)was under 125m was a daylight robbery.
I liked it. Fun way to spend a few hours. Craig may have found his retirement plan with this.
my understanding was they paid that money for the rights to two sequels, although I am not too sure
but I don't get why this would be worth so much, it's not like the first movie was anything special and the stories are just rehashed agatha christie plots
I thought this one was proper shite to be honest
edit: well for the money I mean.. as Netflix movies go, its alright I guess
Get your knives out for the lads!
I expected more out of the Glass Onion it was basically a mid level Poirot plot. James Blonde was actually enjoyable though.
The first film was critically acclaimed, earned Johnson an Oscar nomination, was very successful commercially and relatedly was something that appealed to broad audience demographics, which is presumably why this sequel is being released at Christmas. From Netflix's POV there's a lot to like in owning a franchise that ticks those boxes.
Decent film this, great Xmas film with the fam.
It was fine. Weaker thwn the first though. Well the last third of the film anyway.
Passable everyone played their parts well and I love Janelle Monae.
As for the whodunnit aspect if I get it early on them it's not a great look. I'm usually useless at these
As for the whodunnit aspect if I get it early on them it's not a great look. I'm usually useless at these
For foreigners (Asians) Netflix is great, they have variety shows from every countries, and local production (we Indonesians have a few of our own) so yeah... if you're not privy to only watching heavyweight Hollywood / Western Production then Netflix is the way to go.
Their film might be standard cardboard produced, but it's the kind of Oh... this one looks great I'll watch it this week type.
On top of my head : Bullet Train, Kate, Grey Man, Red Notice, etc are films you mostly turn up your nose at, but at least they have them in abundance.
Lots of Popcorn every week >>>> Steak every 3-4 months
So I don't get why so much dislike for Netflix
Their film might be standard cardboard produced, but it's the kind of Oh... this one looks great I'll watch it this week type.
On top of my head : Bullet Train, Kate, Grey Man, Red Notice, etc are films you mostly turn up your nose at, but at least they have them in abundance.
Lots of Popcorn every week >>>> Steak every 3-4 months
So I don't get why so much dislike for Netflix
They cancelled goddamn Santa Clarita Diet and OA!
I do like Netflix. But feck them too.
The original was basically an A-list Jonathan Creek tbf
Big whoodunnit films are weird, ‘cos the real legacy of Christie & Doyle is that there’s a massive cottage industry on television pumping out mini-mystery procedurals with Sherlockian genius detectives every day, in a hundred languages, on a thousand channels… so making a huge film event that isn’t just a longer, more elaborate, better acted version of that is hard… which is why we usually just get increasingly more elaborate and star-studded versions of old Christie & Doyle ones.
I mean imagine trying to think of an original plot for your expensive whoodunnit film only to find someone already used it for a midseason episode of Castle 7 years ago…
Anyway, it was way too long, some of the CGI was ropey and it still made no sense why these people knew each other even after they explained it 3 or 4 times, but it was also quite enjoyable and well put together for what it was (- an overlong, overacted version of one of these things.)
Rian Johnson must’ve been absolutely pissing himself at Elon Musk’s shenanigans over the last couple months. Just sitting in an editing suite giggling his balls off.
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I think the 400m quoted is including the cost of production and not the rights only.
200 a piece would be peanuts these days
It was fine. The first one was also fine. I’ve no idea why they get such crazy praise. Feels like it’s perfect for Netflix, actually.
I guess the actors have fun and therefore it’s somewhat enjoyable as a result. And Janelle Monáe is always great. But if I was bothered to in any way pick the plot apart it’d likely have so many holes.
I guess the actors have fun and therefore it’s somewhat enjoyable as a result. And Janelle Monáe is always great. But if I was bothered to in any way pick the plot apart it’d likely have so many holes.
It was decent. One of those films that seem good at the time, then you can’t remember a thing about it a week hence.
A fecking crime, that.
I liked it. Didnt come across particularly big budget other than maybe the glass onion itself
It cost 40m I think. The rights and tying Craig down cost the money I believe. I thought it was great - not quite as good as number one but I laughed a lot and everyone in the family of different generations thoroughly enjoyed it.
Not as good as the first then?
Given that Poirot is one of the best detective series of all time, mid level Poirot is actually a big compliment.
good stuffAs if you ever watched Jonathan Creek.
Watched both of them back to back yesterday (down with the flu). First one was good, second one is alright. His accent is hilarious though. It actually made the movie experience better for me. It made the movie feel less serious and more fun and hence I didn’t even attempt to nitpick.
Love a good Creek. Strictly the Quentin years.
The episode with the body climbing the stairs comes to my mind with startling regularity to this day
could’ve saved $400m if they’d just got the Jonathan Creek writers in
It was okay. My kids adore a whodunnit so it's an easy crowd pleaser in my house
Enjoyed it. Though the first one was better.
Found it a bit odd, that the Edward Norton character shifted from being a moron and a machiavellian schemer. Poisoning someone with a known allergen, was brilliant, no matter how much the detective proclaimed it to be stupid. Edward Norton was looking more like a brilliant person trying to play stupid, rather than a stupid person trying to act brilliant.
Can someone explain please
Why did Norton invite Andy when he had killed her / intended to killed her anyway? What was the point of the invitation.
Yeah no idea. It was a dumb plot hole. Also you think the moment he’d seen the person he just killed on the island he’d have realised something was completely off
Enjoyed it, good fun.