bishblaize
Full Member
- Joined
- Jan 23, 2014
- Messages
- 4,280
Labour needs to get over its hangup with Blair anywayChukka Umunna, the Blairite champion, being labelled as most trustworthy has to be some kind of joke.
Labour needs to get over its hangup with Blair anywayChukka Umunna, the Blairite champion, being labelled as most trustworthy has to be some kind of joke.
Suppose it's all about illusion though. Politicians aren't often judged on the traits they have, but instead on the traits they can convince others that they have. Chuka seems like the sort of guy who is presentable and could be quite popular, even if he's in the Blairite mould.Chukka Umunna, the Blairite champion, being labelled as most trustworthy has to be some kind of joke.
Exactly!That poll is for The Mail on Sunday, tbf. But this is the million dollar question. Do you champion someone you don't entirely agree with but who's likely to get elected, or stick steadfast to your principles like pete and win the Arsenal moral cup every year?
I'd still rather Blair than Cameron. The war gutted his legacy, but he still pushed through some decent social reforms.
Still only 40% so not exactly a ringing endorsement.Chukka Umunna, the Blairite champion, being labelled as most trustworthy has to be some kind of joke.
I know what you mean, he is a bit tepid as an orator. 40% is probably at the high end of the scale for trusting politicians though.Still only 40% so not exactly a ringing endorsement.
I still can't imagine Umunna making a big speech though. He needs to take up preaching in an evangelical church for a while, preferably in Atlanta, then return.
'45, '45 will be repeated
'45, '45 I say
'45, '45 will be repeated
with Labour playing the clause IV way
These policies wouldn't be disastrous at all...Among them are renationalisation of the railways, pay increases for all public sector workers and legislation to force businesses to pay the living wage.
Liz Kendall, who studied at Cambridge and listens to rap
I feel the same, not too hot on the personality but I think his politics are the right if there is to be a realistic chance of Labour get elected in the next election, which I feel is more important than ideology at this point in time.I don't trust Chuka for a second. But then he might still be the best of the candidates. Not sure who I'm gonna vote for.
Who's policies were they?These policies wouldn't be disastrous at all...
It's apparently what the Unions are demanding the next leader adopt.Who's policies were they?
Disagree with all apart from the renationalising of the railways, I just don't think that it can ever be a properly competitive (and therefore efficient) market. As nice as it sounds, I think forcing the "living wage" on employers will lead to more unemployment and less foreign companies setting up here. The public sector is bloated and expensive enough without more pay increases. Better to give tax cuts to all working people by increasing the income tax threshold.These policies wouldn't be disastrous at all...
Exactly.Disagree with all apart from the renationalising of the railways, I just don't think that it can ever be a properly competitive (and therefore efficient) market. As nice as it sounds, I think forcing the "living wage" on employers will lead to more unemployment and less foreign companies setting up here. The public sector is bloated and expensive enough without more pay increases. Better to give tax cuts to all working people by increasing the income tax threshold.
One issue here is how the public sector compares with the private sector in terms of salaries. If the private sector continually pays better salaries for similar level roles you face a talent drain away from the public sector, which has all sorts of knock on effects. Tax cuts dont address this issue.Disagree with all apart from the renationalising of the railways, I just don't think that it can ever be a properly competitive (and therefore efficient) market. As nice as it sounds, I think forcing the "living wage" on employers will lead to more unemployment and less foreign companies setting up here. The public sector is bloated and expensive enough without more pay increases. Better to give tax cuts to all working people by increasing the income tax threshold.
For goodness sake!It's apparently what the Unions are demanding the next leader adopt.
There are other reasons for working in the public sector though; a sense of public service, increased job security and typically a more generous pension.One issue here is how the public sector compares with the private sector in terms of salaries. If the private sector continually pays better salaries for similar level roles you face a talent drain away from the public sector, which has all sorts of knock on effects. Tax cuts dont address this issue.
Joking?There are other reasons for working in the public sector though; a sense of public service, increased job security and typically a more generous pension.
Historically that was the appeal of the public sector, obviously there have been redundancies over the last few years.Joking?
Renationalising the raliways is sensible at this point. The experiment hasn't worked in the public's favour.These policies wouldn't be disastrous at all...
Let no good deed go unpunished. If they want to serve the public then we must be able to use that to force down their wages. Its only right.There are other reasons for working in the public sector though; a sense of public service, increased job security and typically a more generous pension.
That reads like a piss take.The Conservative idiot-proof knives are out for Chuka already.
http://conservativewoman.co.uk/laura-perrins-stylish-chuka-is-too-old-to-have-a-girlfriend/
Deeply sad, and disappointed. I also have absolutely no recollection of his 2010 campaign, but I'm not sure whether that's a good or bad thing. I liked the emphasis on the whole country after the others so far have basically just talked about the south, sort of going back to the whole "One Nation" thing Labour dropped a couple of years back. Bloody difficult to create a convincing message for it though.Andy Burnham has sad eyes. People won't vote for that.
I work in the public sector and I think you can extend this even further: having started from a lowish Base and because of very low or no pay increases over the last five years, UK public sector workers are now among the least paid in the OECD. This is problem in areas such as health and higher education where employers have to compete globally for the best talent.One issue here is how the public sector compares with the private sector in terms of salaries. If the private sector continually pays better salaries for similar level roles you face a talent drain away from the public sector, which has all sorts of knock on effects. Tax cuts dont address this issue.
That's a terrible picture to have put with the article. It looks like he's doing "wittle bunny teeth" too.Andy Burnham has sad eyes. People won't vote for that.
Where else am I going to find a good, obedient, non-lawyer wife before I'm 35?Hehe @Mockney reads 'conservative woman'.
He came across as nice but flimsy in the last campaign, albeit he was against some big hitters that time round.Deeply sad, and disappointed. I also have absolutely no recollection of his 2010 campaign, but I'm not sure whether that's a good or bad thing. I liked the emphasis on the whole country after the others so far have basically just talked about the south, sort of going back to the whole "One Nation" thing Labour dropped a couple of years back. Bloody difficult to create a convincing message for it though.
Yeah, only finishing (1%) ahead of Diane Abbott isn't something to shout about either. Still, I'm giving everyone a fair shot at this, even if Tristram joins in.He came across as nice but flimsy in the last campaign, albeit he was against some big hitters that time round.
I've confused him with Zak Goldsmith on more than one occasion. No one who can be confused with Zak Goldsmith, even by an idiot, can lead the Labour Party.Yeah, only finishing (1%) ahead of Diane Abbott isn't something to shout about either. Still, I'm giving everyone a fair shot at this, even if Tristram joins in.
Never thought I would have similar interest to a possible PM, he will go down well with the youths.A mate of mine told me chuka umunna was a garage DJ, i for one am willing to get onboard with that. a PM with some street cred.