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Hire Southgate. Sell Greenwood.
1. Agreed.Let me preface this with saying that I don't think we'll sack Ole any time soon and I don't think we should unless things spiral downwards quickly. I think we'll pick up some form and the talk of Ole being under threat will subside - which would be good.
Having said that, IF we were to sack him:
1. No thanks to Antonio Conte - don't like his style of play and he seems to be super temperamental which we could do without.
2. Zidane will never manage in England imo.
3. I'd go for Brendan Rodgers. I know he managed Liverpool but his teams play great football and he is an excellent man manager. I think he would be brilliant with us.
2. Just a feeling. He hasn't ever indicated an ambition to do it as far as I know, never played here either, and has not affiliation with a club in England. Never say never, but I don't see it.1. Agreed.
2. May I ask why?
3. I don't want him. He's a bottler.
And guys don't worry about Southgate. He won't quit the English national team at least until after the WC.
2. Pep, Klopp, Tuchel has never played in England. Afaik none had indicated an ambition to manage in England prior to their appointments either or at least prior to the rumours of a PL team was interested. In fact, if they did so imo it only narrowed down their choices among the top clubs and make them weaker in the potential negotiation.2. Just a feeling. He hasn't ever indicated an ambition to do it as far as I know, never played here either, and has not affiliation with a club in England. Never say never, but I don't see it.
3. Maybe. But I enjoy how his teams play. Given the squad we have, I think he could do something special.
This made me laugh.I’m surprised no one mentioned Kjetil Knutsen, as he is currently managing the Norwegian league leaders.
I’m surprised no one mentioned Kjetil Knutsen, as he is currently managing the Norwegian league leaders.
Some internet fans are hungry for a Brit, so no!I’m surprised no one mentioned Kjetil Knutsen, as he is currently managing the Norwegian league leaders.
Great stuffI’m surprised no one mentioned Kjetil Knutsen, as he is currently managing the Norwegian league leaders.
Trust me, it's not gonna stop people from using cringey terms like "back to the drawing board", "steadying the ship", and "rebuild", no matter who we sign. The next manager will allegedly inevitably "rip up" everything Ole has build from DNA to good vibes. United fans will always perceive the club as culturally better than other clubs because of the "United Way". Unless we can appoint a candidate who can inject more DNA, vibes and feel-good feelings in the locker room, these same fans will turn on him.Finding the right manager will be alot easier and smoother if we don't need to be going through a rebuild everytime we sack one.
For example, if we sack Ole today, nobody is going to be throwing words like 'rebuild' and 'cultural reset' on this team. We would expect the next manager to get in and start challenging for major trophies. But its not all about that. We also have to ask "If we bring in X coach where will he leave us long term after he is inevitably sacked? Will we have to start rebuilding the team spending hundreds of millions? Or will he recruit well and leave us with a strong squad capable of winning trophies after he's been sacked?"
Like we've learnt with Mourinho and Van Gaal, hiring the wrong manager that recruits poorly cannot just hurt in the short term but long term too even after they are gone.
I’m surprised no one mentioned Kjetil Knutsen, as he is currently managing the Norwegian league leaders.
Definitely my preference although the Barca link makes too much sense.
Does it though? The club can barely afford to sack their current let alone back a new one. Seems to be the kind of job to stay clear for the next 2-3 years.Definitely my preference although the Barca link makes too much sense.
HahahahaI’m surprised no one mentioned Kjetil Knutsen, as he is currently managing the Norwegian league leaders.
Or one to go build your reputation on. The guy who brought Barcelona back from the dead.Does it though? The club can barely afford to sack their current let alone back a new one. Seems to be the kind of job to stay clear for the next 2-3 years.
He’s the sort of manager who doesn’t need star signings but rather players who fit his system. Could be their savior and would have maximum patience from the club and fans considering the current state of things. Seems a smart move for him and Barcelona.Does it though? The club can barely afford to sack their current let alone back a new one. Seems to be the kind of job to stay clear for the next 2-3 years.
Have a feeling he could well end up at City when Pep leaves if he is still at Ajax thenImportant to keep building from what Ole and his staff has done. We now need to take the last few steps back to the very top. No need to get a new manager in, and just start from scratch again with lots of changes and a new direction.
My pick is still Erik ten Hag. He has a great track-record in Holland and in Europe. Works well with young talents. Has a clear philosophy and is tactically strong, and can adapt to the opposition. Would be a great fit. Has experience from Germany as well.
Could very well be.Have a feeling he could well end up at City when Pep leaves if he is still at Ajax then
Or come here and be the guy that wins our first title since SAF retired.Or one to go build your reputation on. The guy who brought Barcelona back from the dead.
Would be beyond frustrating if the timing worked out for them there as that would be little to no transition in playing style.Have a feeling he could well end up at City when Pep leaves if he is still at Ajax then
yeah and if pep is still determined to leave in summer 2023 I could see City negotiating terms with ten Hag / Ajax this summer to make that transition and player recruitment even smoother - because as much as it pains me to say it they are strategically well runWould be beyond frustrating if the timing worked out for them there as that would be little to no transition in playing style.
Pickings are incredibly slim at this point. I have reservations about both Conte and Zidane like you do. But, Brendan Rodgers would not be a good pick. He was overwhelmed at Liverpool, and this is a much bigger job. His Leicester side are also serial bottlers.2. Just a feeling. He hasn't ever indicated an ambition to do it as far as I know, never played here either, and has not affiliation with a club in England. Never say never, but I don't see it.
3. Maybe. But I enjoy how his teams play. Given the squad we have, I think he could do something special.
Pretty sure, nobody on here is happy with Southgate mentions.People complain about Ole and his tactical ineptitude ... At the same time, the same people see Southgate as an ideal successor
Our board won't ever go for appointments like Ten Haag, Potter etc. They are too scared of changes, we just renewed Phelan and Carrick/McKenna extension is in the works. The most terrifying part for me is that I do not trust our board to make the right call, when we eventually move from Ole.Would be beyond frustrating if the timing worked out for them there as that would be little to no transition in playing style.
Zidane rode the coattails of Bale, Ronaldo, Ramos, Varane, Modric, Kroos, Casemiro, Marcelo et al, none of whom he signed. If you check out his signings they are almost 100% shite.If things wen't downhill quickly now the ones I'd be considering would be (In no order).
Zidane, Conte, Potter, Ten Hag, Thomas Frank, Rogers, Nagelsmann
For me, I would not want Conte, I don't think Nagelsmann would come, Zidane I think got a little lucky at Madrid.
That leaves: Potter, Frank, Ten Hag and Rogers. I think I'd be quite happy with any, especially Potter or Ten Hag. Real style of play and IMO are both ready to make a step up.
Yes that’s very possible. Unfortunately.yeah and if pep is still determined to leave in summer 2023 I could see City negotiating terms with ten Hag / Ajax this summer to make that transition and player recruitment even smoother - because as much as it pains me to say it they are strategically well run
Only if you are adequately supported by the club to do so.Or one to go build your reputation on. The guy who brought Barcelona back from the dead.