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40 TD's in a new system without pre season at aged 43 - I think that's pretty okay.
He has three top-15 receivers. He's been average for his surrounding cast.
 

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Miami is done for, the Colts aren't losing against this Jags team.
 

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Brady just took a losing franchise to a 11-5 season while throwing 40 TDs

And he’s 43...
 

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Brady just took a losing franchise to a 11-5 season while throwing 40 TDs

And he’s 43...
The team is stacked. He walked into a perfect situation for an above average QB. This adulation is exactly why he chose them.
 

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Rodgers throwing darts to MVS butterhands is the best connection in football :lol:
 

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The worst thing about redzone is how the dickheads think they constantly need to be spouting shit, acting like excited 4 year olds and trying to be funny all at the same time.
 

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Brady just took a losing franchise to a 11-5 season while throwing 40 TDs

And he’s 43...
Pretty amazing when you think about it. Same team last year had a losing record, then Brady arrives and now they're in the playoffs.
 

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Hard to tell exactly whilst watching on Redzone but the MVS drop seems to have killed any momentum Green Bay had. Going to be a tight finish.
 

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Third time in a row we let Henry get over 200 yards against us, FFS.
 

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I think his role in changing the culture of the franchise is more relevant than having a host a receivers to throw to in going 11-5
Pretty amazing when you think about it. Same team last year had a losing record, then Brady arrives and now they're in the playoffs.
After Week 16:
2019 TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS OFFENSE : 28.6 PPG - 9th in points per drive - 11th in yards per drive
2020 TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS OFFENSE : 28.6 PPG - 8th in points per drive - 21st in yards per drive

Brady throws less turnovers than Winston, congratulations. That's the difference. Also they added the best receiver in the NFL from two years ago, and the best TE that has ever played.
 

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After Week 16:
2019 TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS OFFENSE : 28.6 PPG - 9th in points per drive - 11th in yards per drive
2020 TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS OFFENSE : 28.6 PPG - 8th in points per drive - 21st in yards per drive

Brady throws less turnovers than Winston, congratulations. That's the difference. Also they added the best receiver in the NFL from two years ago, and the best TE that has ever played.
7-9 vs 11-5 is the only thing that counts mate. Also don't bring up AB who's barely been relevant to their success this season and Gronk who's nothing more than a half decent TE these days. "Best TE that ever played", as if that has any relevance left anymore regarding this season.

Your Brady hatred is quite tiresome. You don't like it, we get it by now. It's one thing to dislike a guy but another to not even being able to give him his credit when it's obviously deserved. He has turned a losing franchise into a playoff team in one friggin season while throwing 40+ TDs aged 43. If you don't think that's something to be admired, regardless of his supporting cast (not to mention that Godwin/Evans were already there last season and that Brady had a wank supporting cast in NE his last few years when he still led them to Super Bowl wins), then it's obvious that you can't have a proper discussion with you about Brady.
 

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After Week 16:
2019 TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS OFFENSE : 28.6 PPG - 9th in points per drive - 11th in yards per drive
2020 TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS OFFENSE : 28.6 PPG - 8th in points per drive - 21st in yards per drive

Brady throws less turnovers than Winston, congratulations. That's the difference. Also they added the best receiver in the NFL from two years ago, and the best TE that has ever played.
Godwin and Evans are still the main two producers there. Brown was only a bit part player (less than 40 receptions) and Gronk produced but mainly at the expense of OJ Howard, so there wasn't really much of a difference there. The only tangible difference was the addition of Brady and the positive knock on effect of having 9 super bowl appearances running the offense, along with a bit more production from Jones.
 

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Third time in a row we let Henry get over 200 yards against us, FFS.
The consistency he’s showing (against all teams) is incredible. About to hit 2000 yards for the season too.
 

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7-9 vs 11-5 is the only thing that counts mate. Also don't bring up AB who's barely been relevant to their success this season and Gronk who's nothing more than a half decent TE these days. "Best TE that ever played", as if that has any relevance left anymore regarding this season.

Your Brady hatred is quite tiresome. You don't like it, we get it by now. It's one thing to dislike a guy but another to not even being able to give him his credit when it's obviously deserved. He has turned a losing franchise into a playoff team in one friggin season while throwing 40+ TDs aged 43. If you don't think that's something to be admired, regardless of his supporting cast (not to mention that Godwin/Evans were already there last season and that Brady had a wank supporting cast in NE his last few years when he still led them to Super Bowl wins), then it's obvious that you can't have a proper discussion with you about Brady.
ok but he kissed his son on the lips
 

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If the Jags can score Miami might somehow limp into the playoffs with the third overall pick in the bag. Though the Texans also seem to be coming back
 

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7-9 vs 11-5 is the only thing that counts mate. Also don't bring up AB who's barely been relevant to their success this season and Gronk who's nothing more than a half decent TE these days. "Best TE that ever played", as if that has any relevance left anymore regarding this season.

Your Brady hatred is quite tiresome. You don't like it, we get it by now. It's one thing to dislike a guy but another to not even being able to give him his credit when it's obviously deserved. He has turned a losing franchise into a playoff team in one friggin season while throwing 40+ TDs aged 43. If you don't think that's something to be admired, regardless of his supporting cast (not to mention that Godwin/Evans were already there last season and that Brady had a wank supporting cast in NE his last few years when he still led them to Super Bowl wins), then it's obvious that you can't have a proper discussion with you about Brady.
Everything you have said is circumstantial. You can't boil down your argument to wins, and talk about him being 4 wins better than a back-up QB.

He's played very well for an old QB, and about above average overall. But his supporting cast is among the best in the league. 'Losing Franchise' moniker is embarrassingly misleading and you know it. Stop that nonsense.
 

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Everything you have said is circumstantial. You can't boil down your argument to wins, and talk about him being 4 wins better than a back-up QB.

He's played very well for an old QB, and about above average overall. But his supporting cast is among the best in the league. 'Losing Franchise' moniker is embarrassingly misleading and you know it. Stop that nonsense.
Is it not true then? They were a losing franchise. You can't boil down the argument to "4 wins difference" when the difference is actually "playoffs vs never in the playoffs".

His supporting cast is good yes, but it isn't better than Matt Ryan's for example who's... not in the playoffs this season. Also that whole argument of supporting cast is complete bullshit if you know that Brady did it with one of the worst in the league the last few years in New England.

Like I said, no use talking about him with you so I won't engage any further in it, but it's quite pathetic to see. I'm glad I don't have to read your posts when it could've been Belichick going to the playoffs and Brady having a losing season right now because it would've been even more insufferable.
 
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