I don't see why any sports team would have who is effectively a bouncer on the sideline, getting involved with the players. Maybe it is common in American sport, but it is alien to me.
That’s quite the understatement when you consider his actual job.
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I actually have no idea if other teams in the NFL have their head of security on the sidelines, but I know the Eagles have for many years. I do wonder if he was ejected because the referees don't think he should be there at all, rather than what he did, which I don't think was much. Perhaps if a coach broke it up, it would just be Greenlaw getting ejected, or no ejections at all...
It was absolute domination but you could see it coming. Niners coming off 10 days rest, eagles with a hell of a schedule, it was the perfect moment to exact some revenge for last season. I’m certain they’ll meet again in the playoffs and based on the age of their QBs and core players, it could be a heated rivalry for several years.Did not expect that from the Niners last night, what a result.
Few takeaways; Greenlaw was stupid, but there is no way there should be a "security guard" in his face like that. Football, as in Premier league, has a lot of problems with discipline, refereeing etc, but there is no way they'd let a random guy interfere with a player like that. Should be a massive fine for not controlling staff. Eagles wouldn't have had the first TD without that.
The "tush push" is basically a rugby maul. Don't the Eagles have a coach with a rugby background?
Deebo had a lot to lose in that match after all the talk. He definitely showed up.
That final hit by Demo Lenoir was an absolute beauty too, type of hit that makes you think twice about being open for a pass
No it wouldn't, most valuable player should always be a QB. Tua is a lot more important for Miami than Hill is. He missed 4 games last season with his concussion issues + half the game he got concussed in, and they were 1-4 in those games.
Good shouts. The only thing I have with a receiver potentially winning is he relies on the QB to make the throws. Hill certainly should be in the mix though but Tua probably as well in that case. I think Hill has a better shot at OPOY than MVP.
I'm defending it because he's done before, last season, when it occurred right in front of him on the Eagles sideline, and there was no beef then because both players walked away and no hands were thrown. There's only beef now because it led to an ejection.
Always giving it to a QB on one of the best teams is boring. If you’re going to be that literal about the award, then just give it to the most compensated player.
I kinda agree but it's also most true to the name of the award, and we've got OPOY to usually give to another offensive player who's had a stellar season (Jefferson last season, Hill is all but a certainty for this season imo).
He's employed to provide security against random events not to get involved with opposition football players during the game. But gotta defend yer guy, some fat feck legend apparently, I get it. It's a Philly thing I guess.
Man, you sound pretty angry about something so innocuous. I'm not defending "my" guy. I'm defending what happened. I wouldn't care it it happened in reverse with 49ers staff, or if it happened to any other team in the league.
Perhaps they'll ban pushing from behind on the player who is under center, QB or otherwise? That bans the shoved QB sneak without banning ball carriers being bundled of the line to gain/goal line.
The obvious difference is that one is a designed play, one occurs ad hoc.
It shouldn’t always be a QB and history shows the league will buck the trend if a skill player has a special or record breaking season. More recently and in this century: Peterson when he broke 2000 yards; Tomlinson over 2000 combined yards; Alexander breaking the TD record. There are more examples in the 80s and 90s of LT, Sanders and Davis. There was a period when a RB won 3 out of 4 years in the late 90s. No QB is really having a standout season, so this might be the right season to give it to another skill position.
But I don’t see why in terms of banning it you can justify banning one while keeping the other
Lots of speculation in here. Could just as easily that Tua's eruption is down to McDaniel arriving instead of Hill. The trade talks were during a time when their HC was actively encouraged to lose them games.
It’s not speculation at all. Wherever Tyreek Hill has gone he has had a substantial impact. Of course scheme and coaching matters but to dismiss his numbers as being exclusively as a result of that completely undermines his hall of fame talent. The dolphins would not be a Super Bowl contender without Hill, Tua does not have the level of talent like Mahomes to carry a team. I can also guarantee that the chiefs wish they still had him, as he would be difference in raising them to SB favourites.
In this case what’s the point and what’s the difference? Just make one “best QB” and “best player”? What’s stopping the MVP “the QB has to win” narrative bleeding into the “best overall player”?
He could end up scoring at least one TD in every game except one, both running and receiving mixed in, huge yardage and a game winner in his own right. To think he was graded a C- trade at the time by certain talking heads. Has to be between him and Hill for OPOY this year.
Ideally you'd only let people who have brains have a vote.
Who’s the best player is rarely an intellectual discussion
I hope they study his brain some day
That’s the one. A POS that deserves every bad thing that happens to him
It was illegal to push an offense player forward until 2005, though I don't recall it being enforced much but also don't recall it happening often. Made no sense to remove that rule but probably to give more offensive advantages at the time. The NCAA also had that rule but when Bush pushed Leinart forward against ND the refs conveniently kept quiet.
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I don't think I dismissed his numbers anywhere. And your argument is besides the point we're arguing - the Niners offense wouldn't be the same without CMC, Boys wouldn't be the same without Lamb, ... That doesn't make them MVP candidates.
Lowest NFL opening total in 18 years apparently.Smash the underThe o/u for TNF this week is... 30.5 total points
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