I feel that the Vikings are too far. Climbing from 23 to 3 will cost an absolute fortune and they are not expected to be bad next year, unless Cousins is traded on draft day.
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Yeah it's a big leap, agree with that. What would you save by getting rid of Cousins / do you need him to be gone in order to be able to pay Jefferson market value? There's little use in making him the highest paid WR ever (which he will be) if he doesn't have anyone of quality throwing him the ball imo so need to be thinking about life after Cousins already.
Still, if Stroud's available at #3 (big if) it might be a jump worth risking if they believe he's the guy and you get your franchise QB. Gotta imagine it would involve your 24 1st and potentially 25 1st as well, so a steep price to pay.
Too much?
The Packers reportedly want a 2023 second-round pick and a guaranteed 2024 first-round pick from the Jets for Rodgers, according to Yahoo Sports' Charles Robinson.
The Packers reportedly want a 2023 second-round pick and a guaranteed 2024 first-round pick from the Jets for Rodgers, according to Yahoo Sports' Charles Robinson.
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Rodgers is no Russell Wilson but he'll also be 40 by the end of next season... Feel like the Jets could make a (deep) playoff run with him as QB, they have most of the tools in place in other positions. But good on them for not caving so far - while the Packers don't need to do anything theoretically, if Rodgers only wants to play for the Jets they'll want him off their books rather sooner than later.
There is no need to get rid of Cousins this offseason outside of getting worse which means a better draft position next year and saving money for the owners. Jefferson's new contract isn't an issue, it won't start before 2025. The Vikings are clearly thinking about the future, a new QB on rookie contract is what they want but 3rd overall is probably too high. My guess would be that they will try to get the best QB that will drop(Hooker, Levis or Richardson) but 2024 seems more likely.
Or there is the outside chance of Cousins to the 49ers and Trey Lance going the other way.
Cheers, makes sense. I'd rather trade Cousins right now, suck for a year, and try to land Williams or Maye in 2024 than draft Hooker/Levis/AR at #23 this year if I were you then.
That's how I feel. Trading Cousins to the Jets or 49ers in exchange of their failed young QBs seems more sensible. Wilson and Lance could turn things around or maybe they don't and you are in a better position to draft a QB.
For some reason I thought this trade already happened ages ago
Considering how aggressively the Jets were chasing Rodgers these last months and how publicly they did it, we would be stupid to ask for less. The way they acted through all this was basically an instruction on how not to negotiate.
It hasn't been a masterclass in negotiation by the Jets, that's for sure.
„Now that everybody knowns that we desperately want the player, have designed our offense for him and signed players because he likes them, what’s your price?“
Another story that shows why I don’t respect NFL GMs.They could have probably gotten him for a single 2nd rounder and Gutekunst would have driven him to New York himself, just to get rid.
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Huge sums. What was Denver? 4.7 or something?
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Yeah $4.65 billion, more than double than what the Panthers went for back in 2018 when Tepper bought them (a then record-setting $2.2 billion). Now the Commanders are set to smash that record, for one of the worst-run franchises in US professional sports
You'd imagine Tepper is likely the last franchise owner who has been able to buy a team on his own (he's also the wealthiest NFL owner though). The Broncos were bought by an investment group led by the Walmart family (I think) and the Commanders purchase will also be funded by a group of people, among which the 76ers owner and Magic Johnson.
Was a very good soldier for us. Wish he could have won a ring with us.
I thought it was our rookie CB Trent McDuffie.
The most frivolous purchase of life. Only £175..
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WOW. Fecking hell
Good for him.
Be really interesting to see how he does this coming season with the Eagles not looking as strong on paper.
That’s colossal.
And interesting side-fact - his agent is female, so apparently this the largest contract negotiated by a female agent.
He is there whole offence so they needed to make a deal really, that's a lot of money for the young man to make but power to him
Good for him, but shows how overpriced the QB market is. Lamar seeing this deal and he's just going to walk away from Baltimore.
Hurts is a very good fit for the Eagles, but the salary going to QBs is getting out of hand.
Hurts is a very good fit for the Eagles, but the salary going to QBs is getting out of hand.
You are colossally absent from sleeper
Don’t see any takers for Lamar. He’s going to be stuck under the franchise tag at Baltimore.
I agree w you 100%. But there can be some odd ball GM who has a desperate owner to allow them to pursue Lamar. I wouldn't take that chance but it's the NFL...someone can always get desperate.
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Soooo this is interesting. Apparently Young at #1 is a done deal, but the Texans (and a lot of other teams) aren't exactly sold on Stroud. If there's just one team that is though, the Texans could get a haul for the pick.
Would also be very interesting to see how far Stroud falls if the Texans aren't trading out of #2 and just take the top player on their board there. Is Indy still sold on Levis if Stroud is available at #4? Surely the Raiders won't pass on him in favor of a gamble like Anthony Richardson? Will be a fun draft.
Also more and more convinced that Bijan is a top 15 pick. The two college RBs who are closest to him in the last decade went 2nd and 4th overall.
The Hurts deal is both good and bad for Lamar.
Bad as in: it proves that the Watson contract was an outlier (for now) and he won't get that much.
Good as in: it proves that the Watson contract was an outlier (for now) and that he should accept less than that, likely in the range of Hurts' deal.
Lamar is a better QB than Hurts imo, but teams are (unjustified) afraid of the injury risk with him. Still, he should hold out for a deal in the range of what Hurts got.
Burrow will get more, Herbert should get less or in the same range as well.
Bad as in: it proves that the Watson contract was an outlier (for now) and he won't get that much.
Good as in: it proves that the Watson contract was an outlier (for now) and that he should accept less than that, likely in the range of Hurts' deal.
Lamar is a better QB than Hurts imo, but teams are (unjustified) afraid of the injury risk with him. Still, he should hold out for a deal in the range of what Hurts got.
Burrow will get more, Herbert should get less or in the same range as well.
Wild speculation but the Texans have been linked to Danielle Hunter who isn't going to join the team for OTAs...
Not sure if Lamar is a better QB...but Hurts is a very good fit for his team and can still throw the ball and make the correct reads to his receivers if needed and they are a good group. Philly values Hurts much much more than the open market and is rewarding him. They are all in on him through thick and thin.
Lamar has had a below average wideout group, but also the system they run offensively is not as balanced nor as effective as the one Hurts runs in Philly. Baltimore, like other teams since nobody is biting on a trade, believe Lamar is as valuable as he thinks himself to be.
I think that Lamar would have lots of suitors if his big extension wasn't paired with two first round picks. As an unrestricted free agent his contract won't be a problem but with picks, you lose the ability to bring high level but cheap players to surround him.
Lamar has shown a higher ceiling than Hurts so far in their careers, while Hurts has indeed the perfect fit in the Philly system at the moment. He's doing it with AJ Brown and Devonta Smith as his receivers though while Lamar never even has had close to a top 30 WR to throw to.
I won't argue with someone who was Hurts over Lamar at all, can easily see the reasoning. Main takeaway is that they are in the same QB tier (to me, at least) - but situations are different of course so if the Ravens don't wanna pay that amount of money for him, fair enough on them. Doesn't mean he should accept less than (what he perceives to be) his market value imo.
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Again not true. See the post above