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Mediocre Horse Whisperer, s'up wid chew?
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Hi Nicola.Were you dropped on your head as a baby?
Hi Nicola.Were you dropped on your head as a baby?
Because we're a handbag for all the Royal family tea set owning muppets.Its always bothered me that narrative. That Scotland is so utterly worthless without the English that it would fail harder than Boris when quizzed on what happened during the first 5 COBRA meetings of 2020. Yet, people dont half pull out the nonsense to keep us in team UK. So whats going on? Are we all scroungers, in which case why do they want us to stay? And if we arent, why are they telling us we will fail as a nation if we go it alone?
The English media rarely give the SNP much airtime outside of Indy Ref. This story is one of the few that I've actually heard lead a news bulletin down here that isn't about Indy Ref. You have to seek out someone like Andrew Nield to hear actual criticism of the SNP's governance in Scotland if you're in England. Scottish politicians that aren't in the SNP regularly complain that she gets an easy ride down here with 'softball' questions. I tend to agree with that assessment but the truth is that people aren't interested enough in Scottish politics here to justify going deep into it.Because it's clear that the majority of folk here get the English media view of Nicola and the Scottish government. Indoctrinated.
The English media rarely give the SNP much airtime outside of Indy Ref. This story is one of the few that I've actually heard lead a news bulletin down here that isn't about Indy Ref. You have to seek out someone like Andrew Nield to hear actual criticism of the SNP's governance in Scotland if you're in England. Scottish politicians that aren't in the SNP regularly complain that she gets an easy ride down here with 'softball' questions. I tend to agree with that assessment but the truth is that people aren't interested enough in Scottish politics here to justify going deep into it.
Correct them?Because it's clear that the majority of folk here get the English media view of Nicola and the Scottish government. Indoctrinated.
So you think that the English are indoctrinated by 'reason 2' on a Sun article from the election 2015 but the Scots are not indoctrinated by that absurd front page from the same time?
Not at all. I think the consistent messaging of Sturgeon in the English press has been negative. Outside of the 2015 election period, you would be hard pushed to say it has been consistently positive messaging for her in any Scottish paper or outlet aside from The National. Daily Record maybe.So you think that the English are indoctrinated by 'reason 2' on a Sun article from the election 2015 but the Scots are not indoctrinated by that absurd front page from the same time?
Odds are most of them voted for Boris, May, Cameron etc. Lost causes.Correct them?
Maybe in the right wing tabloid rags but for my part I don't read them. I tend to use the BBC and The Guardian as my main media sources.Not at all. I think the consistent messaging of Sturgeon in the English press has been negative. Outside of the 2015 election period, you would be hard pushed to say it has been consistently positive messaging for her in any Scottish paper or outlet aside from The National. Daily Record maybe.
The right leaning parts of the press (the majority and definitely the biggest selling) benefit from the SNP doing well. They make the tories pretty untouchable by labour in elections. If the SNP were to falter the tories would definitely be keeping a nervous eye on that. My general impression of the SNP is that they are treated with some respect in England and were considered a well run party that absolutely hammered labour in the areas that labour needed to do well in. That doesn't mean there hasn't been some negative stories of course but that's the case for any political party.Not at all. I think the consistent messaging of Sturgeon in the English press has been negative. Outside of the 2015 election period, you would be hard pushed to say it has been consistently positive messaging for her in any Scottish paper or outlet aside from The National. Daily Record maybe.
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Not sure how he can claim to be for the people when he's costing us shit tons every time he decides to sue the government.It's now clear why he battled SNP/Sturge, for his own party benefit. Egotist. If he wanted independence he wouldn't do this.
It's also the name of every Empire I make in Crusader Kings 2 and 3. That must be where he got it from.Didn’t Alba make electronics?
It's an Argos own brand now.Didn’t Alba make electronics?
By only putting forward candidates for the list he is breaking PR and could pick up many additional MPs.It's now clear why he battled SNP/Sturge, for his own party benefit. Egotist. If he wanted independence he wouldn't do this.
Yep, he's a dickhead. I want independence, but not at the expense of breaking the electoral system.By only putting forward candidates for the list he is breaking PR and could pick up many additional MPs.
Not from the SNP but other parties
If a system can be broken so easily, doesn’t the system need to change?Yep, he's a dickhead. I want independence, but not at the expense of breaking the electoral system.
Probably at this stage. I'd prefer straight PR but can't blame the current system. It is way way more proportional and fair than WestminsterIf a system can be broken so easily, doesn’t the system need to change?
from the brief segment to news I watched yesterday, he looks like a boxer 20 years past his prime. A complete joke.
You would have to question anyone who wanted to represent this ‘party’.
It will fall on its arse.
Well thank feck for that. Maybe she can focus on not doing a shit job now? What am I saying...madness. Bunch of halfwits.Scottish government loses independence vote ruling
The Scottish government cannot hold an independence referendum without UK government’s consent, Supreme Court rules.
Alternatively, I’m not sure rejecting the request from an elected government to hold something that was pledged in their manifesto is a great look.Well thank feck for that. Maybe she can focus on not doing a shit job now? What am I saying...madness. Bunch of halfwits.
If there wasn't the legal case for it, maybe it shouldn't have been pledged in such a definitive matter?Alternatively, I’m not sure rejecting the request from an elected government to hold something that was pledged in their manifesto is a great look.
That’s true. However, if the Westminster Government flat out refuses any way forward for it to happen then that would be pretty galling for the electorate north of the border. Effectively, know your place and shut up.If there wasn't the legal case for it, maybe it shouldn't have been pledged in such a definitive matter?
I'm sure there will be further calls for independence, but the SNP's ability to bring this forward has taken a beating today.
Terrible postGod she is a vile little creature
cheersTerrible post