Official: FC Barcelona charged with Corruption over payments to former referees chief | UEFA open investigation

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This means only football institutions can persecute Barcelona privately (not through this state court process) and of f- course La Liga won't shoot themselves in the foot by attacking one of their golden eggs.
For the football insitutitons it's a conflict of interests now, they should be the ones persecuting Barcelona for cheating but they (La Liga, spanish clubs, UEFA) know that attacking Barcelona would only hurt their money making and prestige.
So there will be no consequences for this, shocking.
 

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Interview with Laporta on Rac1.

The end of the club's darkest period.

"We have a budget that, if it is met, will give us a profit. We have reduced the debt, we have had a BML that fractures three times what it did before we arrived, we have reduced the sporting wage bill by 172 million. The sporting wage bill was 98 per cent and now it is 57 per cent. To generate fair play, we needed the levers and now we will have more for our work.

Barça Studios Lever

"We need new income, we need new sponsors, the sale of players also helps. The sale would give us 'fair play'. Líbero had a good track record, it was listed in Frankfurt, it worked normally, and the group of this company paid 20 million of the 60 million and there were 40 million left, which they didn't pay when it was due. We gave them a margin until the end of the year, they have not complied and we have sued them. But if we work as we have done, we will still have a surplus".

"Reducing expenses by 22% is not easy, nor is reducing the wage bill".

Breaking up with Nike.

"We have a relationship that is not advisable.
They haven't supplied us with material, they haven't delivered on schedule, and the market is paying us double Nike's. Puma? I can't name names. There are interpretations about how the contract is broken (until 2028). With Nike we have been with them for more than 20 years and in difficult times they have not come forward. When we have bared our teeth saying that the market offered us more, yes they have made an effort. But it is not enough. We want to find the best solution. There are three options: to stay with Nike, to accept what the market offers us, which would pay us much more, and there is the option of doing it ourselves through BLM. In terms of profitability, creating Barça's own brand is not out of the question, but there are safer options such as those paid by the market".

"The limitations set by Nike are not acceptable. BLM is working in this sense, with absolute respect for Nike".

Espai Barca

"What El Periódico is doing is shameful, and they are doing it from the top.
They are creating terror in a project that is the most important in Barça's history, with all the institutions behind it. We have gone through five work inspections, and what they have found are only two incidents. What they're doing is appalling. The headline is sensationalist, and if you look inside, Barça is complying with the regulations and now we want to have more workers to go faster. The issue is not about sports journalism, I am referring that it comes from a direction, because of the political issue. El Periódico is Prensa Ibérica, which is hiring journalists from El Mundo. We decided on a Turkish company, which even Goldman Sachs told me they were very reliable. If we didn't accept the conditions of the Spanish companies, that's up to them. I don't know if they are now behind El Periódico, but I have to say that the positioning of El Mundo is very good.
 

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I am 99% convinced the random newbie accounts that pop up every few months to propagate Barcelona propaganda are actual astroturfers. Can't explain this pattern otherwise.
 

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I am 99% convinced the random newbie accounts that pop up every few months to propagate Barcelona propaganda are actual astroturfers. Can't explain this pattern otherwise.
At least they have stopped relativising racism.
 

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I am 99% convinced the random newbie accounts that pop up every few months to propagate Barcelona propaganda are actual astroturfers. Can't explain this pattern otherwise.
Nobody is going to pay anyone to be a horrible poster on redcafe. More than enough people do it on free.
 

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I am 99% convinced the random newbie accounts that pop up every few months to propagate Barcelona propaganda are actual astroturfers. Can't explain this pattern otherwise.
They are. They always do the same shit. Or they are interns at some Barsa fan organisation paid to spread the gospel of Barsa and police foreign football forums to make sure their message comes across..
 

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Jose Elias, one of the richest men in Spain, and also backed Laporta with 40M so he could be president. He was on the Barcelona board for a few months until he resigned.

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He basically says he was treated badly and ignored and he also drops several interesting sentences, something that was already being talked about in the media.

The club is presidentialist and is run like a family business, with a lot of nepotism. And it should be professionalised as a big company and it is not.

Espai Barca

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There were a lot of offers from very solvent companies and these (Limak) came and wanted to shoot themselves in the foot because they wanted to do the work at all costs. They offered the best price, the best time and the guarantees that the others did not want to give. "

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And also that the company is going to end up and is aware that they are going to lose money because they have made a great price because they want to enter the market.
We have had the good fortune to have a Turkish man come and give us the money and he is also a solvent company. "



Reminder, the stadium will cost 960M and with very good deadlines. This refurbishment with a Spanish company should cost a lot more expensive and with many delays. In the end, the club has been lucky with this.
 
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Jose Elias, one of the richest men in Spain, and also backed Laporta with 40M so he could be president. He was on the Barcelona board for a few months until he resigned.

I can't post the link. It's an interview with Jordi Wild.

He basically says he was treated badly and ignored and he also drops several interesting sentences, something that was already being talked about in the media.

The club is presidentialist and is run like a family business, with a lot of nepotism. And it should be professionalised as a big company and it is not.

Espai Barca

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There were a lot of offers from very solvent companies and these (Limak) came and wanted to shoot themselves in the foot because they wanted to do the work at all costs. They offered the best price, the best time and the guarantees that the others did not want to give. "

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And also that the company is going to end up and is aware that they are going to lose money because they have made a great price because they want to enter the market.
We have had the good fortune to have a Turkish man come and give us the money and he is also a solvent company. "



Reminder, the stadium will cost 960M and with very good deadlines. This refurbishment with a Spanish company should cost a lot more expensive and with many delays. In the end, the club has been lucky with this.
That's a really surprising ending to that. Given that it's you posting it I was sure it was going to paint barca in an unfavorable light!
 

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The year is 2050. Barça and City all charges are dropped. Key witnesses died of old age
 

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https://onefootball.com/es/noticias...ira-case-anti-corruption-office-says-38982978

This resolution was obvious. The judge twisting the penal code again and again in order to create a far-fetched hypothesis, stretch the court case and manipulate those who want to be manipulated.
It was either about being investigated for bribery or for sports corruption. And now that we know it is not bribery (merely because Negreira cannot be seen as a public officer), we know it will be for sports corruption.

Or in other words, this news has hardly any relevance in relation to the seriousness of FC Barcelona's actions over the years.
 

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Nobody is going to pay anyone to be a horrible poster on redcafe. More than enough people do it on free.
If you were a horrible poster you would know that we do pay them, quite a lot in fact.
 

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I remember how Barca was the club that forwent a shirt sponsor/donated that ad space to charity, followed a strict policy of not criticizing referees, had a history of fighting fascism and integrated more academy players into the first team than any other top club. Crazy to think about how much the club has changed/how much of those were just blatant lies. They really turned from one of the most sympathetic clubs to one of if not the most corrupt.
 

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I remember how Barca was the club that forwent a shirt sponsor/donated that ad space to charity, followed a strict policy of not criticizing referees, had a history of fighting fascism and integrated more academy players into the first team than any other top club. Crazy to think about how much the club has changed/how much of those were just blatant lies. They really turned from one of the most sympathetic clubs to one of if not the most corrupt.
Yeah that UNICEF shirt sponsorship was the beginning of the end.
 

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Jose Elias, one of the richest men in Spain, and also backed Laporta with 40M so he could be president. He was on the Barcelona board for a few months until he resigned.

I can't post the link. It's an interview with Jordi Wild.

He basically says he was treated badly and ignored and he also drops several interesting sentences, something that was already being talked about in the media.

The club is presidentialist and is run like a family business, with a lot of nepotism. And it should be professionalised as a big company and it is not.

Espai Barca

"
There were a lot of offers from very solvent companies and these (Limak) came and wanted to shoot themselves in the foot because they wanted to do the work at all costs. They offered the best price, the best time and the guarantees that the others did not want to give. "

"
And also that the company is going to end up and is aware that they are going to lose money because they have made a great price because they want to enter the market.
We have had the good fortune to have a Turkish man come and give us the money and he is also a solvent company. "



Reminder, the stadium will cost 960M and with very good deadlines. This refurbishment with a Spanish company should cost a lot more expensive and with many delays. In the end, the club has been lucky with this.
Yeah that UNICEF shirt sponsorship was the beginning of the end.
The guy that engineered it had a job in UEFA as far as I remember as head of the refereeing committee. His last year in UEFA? 2015.
 

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The club's legal services have a mirror to look into. Madrid was sanctioned by the TEAC for the same reason, in the years 2011-2015. They appealed and the AN ended up giving the reason to Madrid. The fact that they put photos of Laporta reflects where they are going....

El Periodico 21 MAR 2023

The Supreme Court returns 3 million to Florentino and the clubs win the war of payments to agents against the Treasury.
The High Court amends the National Court, which until now had upheld all the decisions of the Treasury, which in addition to the white team had also sanctioned FC Barcelona, Atlético de Madrid, Sevilla FC and Valencia CF, among other clubs, with million-dollar fines. This decision means that the clubs have won the million-dollar war over the commissions they pay to intermediaries.

ElPais

Real Madrid beats Hacienda again over payments to players' agents between 2011 and 2015.

As soon as it reaches the national audience, it will give the reason to Barcelona, as it did to Madrid in its day, and the club will not have to pay anything.
 
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Christ, can Barcelona not stop cheating for 5 minutes?
 

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The club's legal services have a mirror to look into. Madrid was sanctioned by the TEAC for the same reason, in the years 2011-2015. They appealed and the AN ended up giving the reason to Madrid. The fact that they put photos of Laporta reflects where they are going....

El Periodico 21 MAR 2023

The Supreme Court returns 3 million to Florentino and the clubs win the war of payments to agents against the Treasury.
The High Court amends the National Court, which until now had upheld all the decisions of the Treasury, which in addition to the white team had also sanctioned FC Barcelona, Atlético de Madrid, Sevilla FC and Valencia CF, among other clubs, with million-dollar fines. This decision means that the clubs have won the million-dollar war over the commissions they pay to intermediaries.

ElPais

Real Madrid beats Hacienda again over payments to players' agents between 2011 and 2015.

As soon as it reaches the national audience, it will give the reason to Barcelona, as it did to Madrid in its day, and the club will not have to pay anything.
You do seem to pop up at convenient times with convenient whataboutisms don’t you?
 

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Real Madrid: 3M fines
Sevilla: 3M fines
Valencia: 3M fines
Patetico: 600k fine(didn't even appeal and in the end didn't have to pay either)

Barcelona: 23M fines

Wonder why it might not be like the others :rolleyes:

We'll see
 

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You’ve just copy and pasted all that from articles, even the fans are cheats
Yeah, in my mind, Barca stans and Magas have the same mindset and cannot help themselves.

I wonder, is it because they do not have a critical mind, or is it because they invested so much in it and are so deep into it that they just cannot go back?
 
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Negreira privately admits that he handed out money at FC Barcelona.

As reported by 'El Mundo', the former vice-president of the Technical Committee of Referees (CTA) has admitted to those close to him that the money he received from FC Barcelona, 7.5 million euros over 17 years, was later returned to the Catalan club.

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It is not in the media's interest to publish this news, lest their story, which is unsubstantiated by any means, should suddenly fall apart.
 

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Negreira privately admits that he handed out money at FC Barcelona.

As reported by 'El Mundo', the former vice-president of the Technical Committee of Referees (CTA) has admitted to those close to him that the money he received from FC Barcelona, 7.5 million euros over 17 years, was later returned to the Catalan club.

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It is not in the media's interest to publish this news, lest their story, which is unsubstantiated by any means, should suddenly fall apart.
I don't understand how you can think that this is a good defense on the case. Basically Negreira admitted Barca bribe him. And no, returning the money does not absolve anyone from corruption and collusion case. It doesn't work that way. Especially since it took 17 years before he return the money, god knows how many advantages and businesses he expand through the corruption money.
 

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The latest UEFA financial report has revealed the European clubs to be making money from jersey and merchandise sales.

1. Barcelona - €179m
2. Real Madrid - €155m
3. Bayern Munich - €147m
4. Liverpool - €132m
5. Manchester United - €130m
6. PSG - €97m
7. Arsenal - €89m
8. Chelsea - €87m
9. Juventus - €74m
10. Tottenham - €74m
(Data from the UEFA Financial Report)

Not bad for not having Messi.

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Negreira privately admits that he handed out money at FC Barcelona.

As reported by 'El Mundo', the former vice-president of the Technical Committee of Referees (CTA) has admitted to those close to him that the money he received from FC Barcelona, 7.5 million euros over 17 years, was later returned to the Catalan club.

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It is not in the media's interest to publish this news, lest their story, which is unsubstantiated by any means, should suddenly fall apart.
I see.

So the admission by Negreira that he took 7.5 million euros over 17 years from Barcelona in clandestine payments through his and his sons companies. Some how makes the media claims that he took......7.5 million euros over 17 years from Barcelona in clandestine payments through his and his sons companies, less substantial?

How does that work exactly I'm at a loss.

Also the gave it back part doesn't negate the taking it/ paying it in the first place does it?
 

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The latest UEFA financial report has revealed the European clubs to be making money from jersey and merchandise sales.

1. Barcelona - €179m
2. Real Madrid - €155m
3. Bayern Munich - €147m
4. Liverpool - €132m
5. Manchester United - €130m
6. PSG - €97m
7. Arsenal - €89m
8. Chelsea - €87m
9. Juventus - €74m
10. Tottenham - €74m
(Data from the UEFA Financial Report)

Not bad for not having Messi.

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Why is Laporta giving out about Nike so, the big whingey bastard?
 

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Negreira privately admits that he handed out money at FC Barcelona.

As reported by 'El Mundo', the former vice-president of the Technical Committee of Referees (CTA) has admitted to those close to him that the money he received from FC Barcelona, 7.5 million euros over 17 years, was later returned to the Catalan club.

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It is not in the media's interest to publish this news, lest their story, which is unsubstantiated by any means, should suddenly fall apart.
Mate if you accept money for a bribe then return it 17 years later, that doesn't make the bribe not a bad thing :lol:
 
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The latest UEFA financial report has revealed the European clubs to be making money from jersey and merchandise sales.

1. Barcelona - €179m
2. Real Madrid - €155m
3. Bayern Munich - €147m
4. Liverpool - €132m
5. Manchester United - €130m
6. PSG - €97m
7. Arsenal - €89m
8. Chelsea - €87m
9. Juventus - €74m
10. Tottenham - €74m
(Data from the UEFA Financial Report)

Not bad for not having Messi.

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But wait, you guys were absolutely still more than a club when Messi was given that astonishing contract and you all defended cause “shirt sales”…. How is this possible? :lol:

No fecking shit one bloke wasn’t worth financial ruining yourselves for and no shit FC Barcelona were always gonna sell a feck tonne of merchandise with or without Messi.
 
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If a guy gets paid for obviously fake "official" work for 17 years and returns the money, the natural conclusion investigators would make is money laundering