"Great lad, Juan, but we didn't need him," a first-team player told ESPN FC. "We had Shinji Kagawa at the time and he was a really popular, well-respected player within the dressing-room. Moyes didn't know how to use him. He didn't trust him. But Shinji was quicker and more direct than Juan, who actually had the effect of slowing the team down."
Sports journalist is the easiest job in the world in a way. Well - after celebrity news journo I guess.Clearly wrote that expecting Spurs to beat us and Jose to get one over on us.
Utd won but he's thought ah feck it I'll post it anyway.
We are a shambles and he'll have a lot of valid points but he's also always keen to stick the boot in.
He wrote about how Arsenal had shown Utd the right way to replace a managerial legend in appointing Emery for example
Managers have come and gone -- Solskjaer is the fourth hire since Ferguson -- a staggering £840 million ($1 billion) has been spent, and largely wasted, on players. Mistakes have been made in the boardroom and only now are we hearing talk of a "cultural reboot" within Old Trafford.What's his diagnosis of how far we have fallen?
I blame @AdnanSuch a good article they posted it twice.
This is such a nonsense of a postClearly wrote that expecting Spurs to beat us and Jose to get one over on us.
Utd won but he's thought ah feck it I'll post it anyway.
We are a shambles and he'll have a lot of valid points but he's also always overly keen to stick the boot in I think
He wrote about how Arsenal had shown Utd the right way to replace a managerial legend in appointing Emery for example
Going to explain or just insult?This is such a nonsense of a post
Some interesting quotes from the article"HE'S EITHER A CLOWN OR A F-U-C-K-ING GENIUS," David Moyes suggested to a member of his coaching team after an early meeting with Ed Woodward, United's newly appointed executive vice-chairman, in July 2013.
"Before games, [David Moyes] would say, 'We need to make 500 passes today.' What is all that about? 500 passes? We never had that kind of thing under Sir Alex [Ferguson]. Before we played Bayern Munich in the Champions League quarterfinal at the Allianz Arena, he told us to try to win corners by kicking the ball off Bayern players' shins. It was laughable really." - a former United midfielder
"Ed [Woodward's] problem is that he doesn't know what he doesn't know. He means well and wants United to be Premier League and European champions again, but he thinks he has the solution to everything. He doesn't, United don't, and he needs to hire the right people in key positions. He's also too nice. One problem that both he and the Glazers share is that they lack a hard edge. That is not the case at City or Chelsea, or with Levy at Spurs." -- one source, to ESPN FC
Mind boggling we actually thought Moyesy was good enough for our club.Some interesting quotes from the article
Sorry mate..I blame @Adnan
Sure - I mean it's a long piece covering our decline since SAF's retirement and painstakingly goes into the mistakes during Moyes, LVG, Mourinho and Ole eras. It has nothing to do with one result, which albeit excellent doesn't mask how badly we're doing this year. It speaks about the structural issues that United have as an organization and its inability to move with the times. It gives some insights into Woodward, and how he's perceived by his peers, and then it makes the point that the choices of managers and the lack of a DOF have massively contributed to our downfall.Going to explain or just insult?
ABSOLUTELY - and these quotes are damning:Mind boggling we actually thought Moyesy was good enough for our club.
He must have loved Tony ValenciaKick the ball off bayern player shins to win corners?! Amazing
As I've said I don't think there's anything in the article we didn't already know anyway so I don't see the point of it. I don't really think there's any new insight or perspective there other than the win corners by kicking the ball into their shins tactic by Moyes.Sure - I mean it's a long piece covering our decline since SAF's retirement and painstakingly goes into the mistakes during Moyes, LVG, Mourinho and Ole eras. It has nothing to do with one result, which albeit excellent doesn't mask how badly we're doing this year. It speaks about the structural issues that United have as an organization and its inability to move with the times. It gives some insights into Woodward, and how he's perceived by his peers, and then it makes the point that the choices of managers and the lack of a DOF have massively contributed to our downfall.
And the Emery comment is kind of a cheap shot; I mean Moyes took a team that finished 1st by +11 points and managed sixth, Emery took a fifth placed team and finished fifth (and made the EL final). It wasn't a perfect choice considering how the next season unfolded, but objectively speaking Arsenal did better with Emery than we did with Moyes and all the turds that followed him. Anyways, don't want to derail the thread on Emery / Arsenal.
Any sensible fan understands the problems run waaaaay deeper than Ed Woodward.Woodward is the problem, as any sensible United fan knows.
Moyes also was also under the impression that moves for Ronaldo, Fabregas, and Bale were underway. Woodward even told him that the club were just waiting to press the button on whichever deal he wanted to do.ABSOLUTELY - and these quotes are damning:
"It was chaos under David Moyes," one former United player told ESPN FC. Another recalled how the "training was s--- in Australia" during the early weeks of the Scot's reign.
"He told us that he would make us fitter. We had just won the Premier League by 11 points, but we were a group of players who would always strive to be better, so we bought into it," said a former player. "But training... was boring and unchallenging. Under Sir Alex, we would warm up in boxes, with one-touch passing, and it was intense and competitive. Under David, it became two-touch and our technique diminished.
"One big factor in David not succeeding at United was that he took too long to realise what he had inherited. The team had stopped pressing under Sir Alex. We began to defend deeper due to the age and experience of the team, but David came in and thought we could play fast-paced football. We couldn't and we made a terrible start that we, and he, never recovered from."
It's truly mad to read that.Moyes also was also under the impression that moves for Ronaldo, Fabregas, and Bale were underway. Woodward even told him that the club were just waiting to press the button on whichever deal he wanted to do.
One figure at a leading Premier League club told ESPN FC that Woodward suffers from "jockstrap syndrome" in that he's too easily dazzled by the association with big-name players and agents.Moyes also was also under the impression that moves for Ronaldo, Fabregas, and Bale were underway. Woodward even told him that the club were just waiting to press the button on whichever deal he wanted to do.