Kostov
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Good enough like Vidic and Rio good enough or simply by far the best CB we currently have?Mainstain does not equal being good enough, does it? Would any those mentioned players start for City / Bayern / Real?
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Good enough like Vidic and Rio good enough or simply by far the best CB we currently have?Mainstain does not equal being good enough, does it? Would any those mentioned players start for City / Bayern / Real?
Should he be accountable for wasting an absolute fortune on a total dross?
Maguire - £ 80M
AWB - £ 50M
James - £ 15M
VDB - £ 45M
That’s around £ 200M on players that have either barely improved us or have done nothing at all, yet people are comfortable with giving him another summer of spending to mask his coaching inability?
Yeah, except they're not total dross and have improved us considerably. Donny excepted so far, but we'll see.Should he be accountable for wasting an absolute fortune on a total dross?
Maguire - £ 80M
AWB - £ 50M
James - £ 15M
VDB - £ 45M
That’s around £ 200M on players that have either barely improved us or have done nothing at all, yet people are comfortable with giving him another summer of spending to mask his coaching inability?
Disagree, Telles is about a 2. James about 5.Till now, I would rate Ole's signings like this:
Maguire: 7/10
AWB: 7/10
Bruno: 9/10
VDB: 1/10
James: 3/10
Telles: 5/10
Cavani: 6/10
Yeah I would go with the same, maybe give Maguire a 6/6.5 based on his price tag and the fact that he is our captain. I would maybe give Telles an average 6 because I don't think he has been exceptional when he has played but he hasn't been really poor either, just Shaw has been a 9/10 this season so Telles hasn't had much of a look in.Till now, I would rate Ole's signings like this:
Maguire: 7/10
AWB: 7/10
Bruno: 9/10
VDB: 1/10
James: 3/10
Telles: 5/10
Cavani: 6/10
Any yet Ole seemingly doesnt use his squad very muchAWB improved us.
Maguire improved us.
Bruno improved us.
James is probably net neutral but good squad player.
Telles good backup.
Cavani good option.
Amad apparently high potential.
Squad strength is improved and first XI is improved. Ole also isn't picking and choosing our players on his own or deciding their prices. This thread has no legs.
Agreed, they are better than the Rojo's and Schneiderlin's of yester year, but not quite enough to take us to the next level yet. There's some potential in the young signings like AWB, but blowing 80m on Maguire with little return really hurts. It was pre Covid I'll give them that, but still reckless.I don't think his signings have been dross. However, I think United are a bit too happy with their recent first-team business.
That's a different discussion with more legs. He definitely overworks his preferred players and it seems a high risk strategy for a long season, particularly with him seemingly keen on the EL. But the signings themselves have not been a major issue for me.Any yet Ole seemingly doesnt use his squad very much
We looked at 804 right backs before signing Wan Bissaka - that was Woodward's claim to Jason Burt at The Telegraph, anyway.Didn’t our PR team say we looked at 1000 centre backs & right backs or something? Then ended up signing from 2 guys Leicester & Palace who everyone already knew.
Good post.In reading the extreme end of each argument shows that both sides of the debate are completely out to lunch. “Most of our signings are shit” on one side and then equally as ridiculous “our defence is impressive, Maguire is excellent” on the other. The truth is always of course in the middle and Ole has been OK so far with his signings. Maguire is good not great but at least provides some needed stability. The fact we are still searching for the right CB to partner him shows that’s he’s definitely not excellent, as I’ve read from some on here. Our back 4 remains a work in progress but better than how Jose left it.
I think if you look at it without the lens of hating or loving Ole, you can argue Bruno, Maguire and AWB are doing what we expect and more at least for Bruno. James is a decent bench option and Cavani a good stop-gap. I think judgment should be reserved for VDB, Telles, Diallo and Pellistri. We’ll see in the next few years whether Ole’s last window was a complete failure or a master stroke. It’s ridiculous coming to firm conclusions on players like VDB or Telles for that matter when they’ve come from inferior leagues. Time will tell, use some common sense FFS.
804, where the feck were we looking!? There’s about 10 right backs in world football good enough for United. I wanna know who the other 794 were. This cnut was probably looking in the Saudi 3rd division & shit.We looked at 804 right backs before signing Wan Bissaka - that was Woodward's claim to Jason Burt at The Telegraph, anyway.
Nobody knows how many wingers and midfielders we looked at before deciding that the best options were James and VdB.
What a nonsense thread. "Dross signings" - wha? Maguire, AWB, Bruno - all quality signings that improved us massively. People forget very quickly how bad it was with Smalling and Jones back there, or Young at right back. We're vastly improved in those areas now. Bruno is arguably the best signing we've made since SAF retired. James was a cheap gamble and most people would say he plays like a 15m player. Cavani was free, so not really that much of a gamble. Donny is quality but maybe that was the wrong move for him.Should he be accountable for wasting an absolute fortune on a total dross?
Maguire - £ 80M
AWB - £ 50M
James - £ 15M
VDB - £ 45M
That’s around £ 200M on players that have either barely improved us or have done nothing at all, yet people are comfortable with giving him another summer of spending to mask his coaching inability?