Have Ole in fans provided any arguments yet?
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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Then you are listening to the right person, who saw so many repetitive and boring arguments in this thread with various Jose fan boys.Says the man with the most posts in the thread...(171
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So you have named 1 academy player and players who were signed in last 5 years. We have only few of them who are playing at good level and most players are considered as deadwood here.
Again last point is something that was ignored for last 6 seasons when we had Van Gaal and Jose too, something I agree with. Obsession with transfers is too strong and improving players with training and tactical set up is ignored.
I don’t understand how he still has the job. I rather he be part of our transfer committee than our manager. Hopefully he changes this opinion I have of him...
Everything is fine, Smalling and Lingard have been giving out advice to the young players, sorted.
I think what´s helping him a lot is that he is sooo humble, friendly, likeable, always smiling. Imagine him beeing a total jerk with an annoying voice/accent/character. Combined with the performance we saw the last months I am sure he would have been sacked already.
Club legend.
Knows the club.
Brought back smiles.
Talks about SAF the Gaffer and doesn’t park in the managers space.
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do you not understand that you are a massive part of those repetitive and boring arguments?!
No, I understand what I'm part of and not part of. I have good arguments with few and very boring and tedious with few.
Everything about Manchester United at the moment is nothing short of the term depressing. Solskjaer being here is included in that.
This job is just too big for him, this has a high chance of getting ugly
Fitness. Fitness is the key
I thought Ole is supposed to be the ruthless and decisive manager for the rebuild?
He surely can talk a good game to the media but so far no results to show at all.
We have only signed an unproven players to date. Herrera left. Pogba, DDG and Lukaku want out. New contracts to the deadwoods. All these Ole kept his mouth shut, this is Ed's yes man to the core. I have a feeling that his dithering is worse than Moyes.
He surely can talk a good game to the media but so far no results to show at all.
We have only signed an unproven players to date. Herrera left. Pogba, DDG and Lukaku want out. New contracts to the deadwoods. All these Ole kept his mouth shut, this is Ed's yes man to the core. I have a feeling that his dithering is worse than Moyes.
Have to agree, big reason why they gave him the job. He will take the bullets for glazers/Woodward
He was obviously speaking nonsense and most of the fans of course believed it. Our summer clear-out will be nothing else than losing our best players and extending contracts with deadwood. We find it difficult to attract any decent players because no one wants to play for Ole. We will end up panic buying a few overpriced players at the end of the transfer window (my bet is Maguire for £75m) and will lineup with Martial - Rashford - Lingard. Mark my words.
I disagree. I think if things go tits-up, the fans will turn on the board not Ole.
Inclined to agree. Ole and the fans have been conned.
oh I agree on that, but he wont call the club out like Jose did and more likely put a brave face on mediawise
Ole has a lot of currency with the fans. Woodward and the Glazers don't.
Hard to say. If he gets stiffed during the transfer window, he might show the board his teeth.
Feel bad for him. Looks like he won't even be given the chance to succeed. No way he thought this is what we would have done by the 18th of June. We are wanting 5 first teamers in with only Herrera going and we have barely signed any considering James will be on the outer edges of the team for at least a few months.
Pre-season can often be a bit meh! However I dread to think what the mood will be if that first game of the season goes wrong. The one consolation is that Chelsea have the silly game against Liverpool and then Wolves will be embroiled in qualifying for the EL.
The first teamsheet of the season will set the mood, either people will be interested to see how new players perform, or god help us it will be full of the usual suspects.
It will be ugly, especially if we have a poor window. But it won't be aimed at Ole.
No. The fans will be straight onto Ed.
Probably, but Woodward answers to the Glazers and they're the ones with the chequebook.
He'll strategically get a DoF in the mix just in time to try and deflect the blame. Of course it won't work.
We mightn't have the capabilities as a fan base to make the Glazers sell the club, but pray to God we can somehow make enough waves to get them to sack their unofficial family member Ed Woodward.
Unfortunately I think they only way they sell is if the club sinks and it becomes financially unrewarding for them. Otherwise they will just bunker down in the US picking up their dividends.
For sure. I can't blame Ole for nothing. Molde manager with debacle in his only job outside Norway gets offer from his favourite club and biggest club in the world. There is no person in the world who would reject that. I wouldn't and my whole coaching career is based on football manager.
That is why you have board. They are payed to make good calls based on facts not on emotions. And they decided to make this shocking appointment based on 10 good games.
And the press spin was that the club had no choice given Ole's great run of wins. Of course they had a choice and if Ole had been released at the end of the season and a new man installed, nobody would be pissing and moaning about it, providing the club had used the time to properly recruit the right candidate.For sure. I can't blame Ole for nothing. Molde manager with debacle in his only job outside Norway gets offer from his favourite club and biggest club in the world. There is no person in the world who would reject that. I wouldn't and my whole coaching career is based on football manager.
That is why you have board. They are payed to make good calls based on facts not on emotions. And they decided to make this shocking appointment based on 10 good games.
Beginning to think he was hired as Woodward and the Glazers knew he'd be a pushover. A top class established manager would have demanded a massive transfer kitty to sort out our dirt squad while Ole is just delighted to be there.
Yep. Ole wants to go young and up-and-coming, however they are now finding that it isn't coming as cheap as they thought. So now it will be they buy very few players for him and save their money that way, leaving Ole in a hole or they have to spend ridiculous amounts on promise when the real deal experienced player could likely be bought for around the same price.
He isn't exactly gong to have the best talents rushing over here, not yet anyway (if ever). Even our decent players aren't sticking around to help him with his vision. Personally I'd be surprised if Ole can convince any continental talent to come
I never thought that it's possible for Man Utd - the biggest club in the world to be so badly mismanaged for so many years. And there is no light at the end of the tunnel yet.
Its unbelievable that Glazers and Ed are still unaffected. There will be riots everywhere for bigger clubs like RM, Barca, BM if they're in our situation.
This is critical time and yet we have a rookie manager. Ole has no style of play, no experience at the highest level, got us through one of the worst run in our history and bad track record in transfer. Somehow he is still being trusted to lead us through one of the biggest ever rebuild in the club history.
I have a feeling that next season will be worse than this season. We will be at the level of Wolves, Leicester and Everton.
Its unbelievable that Glazers and Ed are still unaffected. There will be riots everywhere for bigger clubs like RM, Barca, BM if they're in our situation.
This is critical time and yet we have a rookie manager. Ole has no style of play, no experience at the highest level, got us through one of the worst run in our history and bad track record in transfer. Somehow he is still being trusted to lead us through one of the biggest ever rebuild in the club history.
I have a feeling that next season will be worse than this season. We will be at the level of Wolves, Leicester and Everton.
As i said earlier. Initial plan was great. Interim manager who will lift a squad(and for that former player is a good choice) and searching for new manager. But when they saw that fans love Ole, they hired him. He was cheap option and most of fans wanted him then. Win-win situation for board plus they have coach who will say yes on everything.
Exactly. I never wanted him full time but practically every United fan got carried away over a few lucky wins.
This is the major concern. We could very easily find battling for 6th is our glass ceiling unless we really make some good signings.
I thought we have hit rock bottom this season. With our better players DDG, Pogba, Lukaku, Herrera want out of the club and I don't think the club structure have the capability to replace them let alone we actually need more players to improve the team without this exodus. So far we only signed 1 unproven youngster. Ed and Ole are not the right person to lead us out of this mess. Next season going to be worse.
Whats going on at Utd has nothing to do with Ole. Ed and the Glazers have done the same thing to 4 managers since Fergie retired.
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Please don't. In the worst case scenario, he'll walk out with a nice compensation cheque and he'll find work somewhere else. And no matter what happens, even if it all blows to hell, he will always remain an absolute legend of a player as far as the fans are concerned. In my eyes, nothing will change that, not even if he has us in the relegation zone by December. And he inherited this mess, he did not create it himself. Let us not forget this. What he does with it is a different question.
But he has to use this appreciation to his own advantage. He doesn't have either the pedigree or the experience but his undeniable love for the club can potentially create a shield around him and help him make (some of) the crucial decisions which will eventually see United escape the mess they're in atm. He's not as dogmatic as LvG to start giving debuts left, right and centre instead of adjusting his philosophy (while some called it giving youth a chance, to me it seemed more like throwing everything against the wall hoping something will stick) and he's not as petulant as Mourinho who started his tenure here with the infamous "i need 4 specialists" quote only to sound like the boy who cried wolf when he finally realised that this team needs a new spine before we can start talking about the last finishing touches that will take it to the next level.
I believe that this is his chance, if not to succeed, to be the first manager in the post-Ferguson era who'll leave a positive mark behind him when he leaves. He can force changes and the fans will be in his corner defending him. And he must understand that one of the things that made the man he so admires such a huge success for a quarter of the century was his ruthlessness. Yes, give youth a chance but there's also no way Rashford's agent would have exited Fergie's office in one piece if he had put the rumoured salary demands on the table. Keep your British core but also make sure that you won't spend a big chunk of the season with a back-four that consists of Young/Smalling/Jones as its main components. Pogba wants to jump off the ship? You can tell him to close the door on his way out and score lots of credibility points but only if you've planned a new midfield. Not if you've already told Woodward that you will try to do your best with what you have to work with. And finally, for all his talent, Martial's long due a bollocking. These are all issues (deadwood, wage structure, poor recruiting) that we've left unsolved and they've started to stink the place. And they won't go away just by adding a couple of young and hungry players or by offering the ones we have here unbelievable money.
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