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Gross negligence in any other job on the planet... Except Utd.His man management and handling of injuries alone is a firing offense.
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Gross negligence in any other job on the planet... Except Utd.His man management and handling of injuries alone is a firing offense.
Results? Injury results?The results speak for themselves. Not to mention Maguire has also played on through Injury unnecessarily. It is also no coincidence with McTominay and Rashford who have been overplayed.
Regarding Pogba, if he had had surgery in the first place (which the club had been trying to avoid) he would have been back before Christmas.
You can not get a dumber manager than OGS; no one would sub on an injured but OGS, dumbass.
Now this dumbass trying to get some positive from this injury; more minutes for the other players. They're all shit you dumbass.
No, the difference is that Ole doesn't sub them once they've gotten injured, rushes them back from injuries and runs them into the ground.To accuse Solskjaer for injuries we have is another hit under the belt. Another cheap shot. Another anti Solskjaer thread. If I remember well we had even worse injury list last Ferguson years. Nobody accused him for bad coachning. We had injuries with all managers post Fergie. Difference between then and now is having supermanager Fergie and also having a squad where our 2nd team would win against our first eleven this year.
That is just guessing. Solskjaer doesn’t rush anybody back. Every manager trust club medical team including doctors, physiotherapist and so on. If people want to discuss injuries and Solskjaer you need to know how it goes when a player gets injuries. Only when medical team approves ”comeback” it is on Solskjaer if he want to use them or on. If he thinks they can play or not.No, the difference is that Ole doesn't sub them once they've gotten injured, rushes them back from injuries and runs them into the ground.
Whether or not his training methods create more injuries - as oppose to other managers we've had - is another debate altogether.
Well, I remember thinking it was stupid to have Pogba play against Rochdale after coming back from injury, as we had Arsenal just days later. He ended up playing both games (120mins and 90mins). I also thought immediately when I saw McTominay wincing on the pitch that he should come off, sharpish, as again, Pogba was being nursed back form injury and we were going to need McTominay desperately. Played on. Definitely made it worse. Then Maguire, carries on playing after tearing a muscle, in an FA Cup game that's basically an interference for us now as we don't have the players to cope with the amount of games. Then, there's the Rashford nightmare.That is just guessing. Solskjaer doesn’t rush anybody back. Every manager trust club medical team including doctors, physiotherapist and so on. If people want to discuss injuries and Solskjaer you need to know how it goes when a player gets injuries. Only when medical team approves ”comeback” it is on Solskjaer if he want to use them or on. If he thinks they can play or not.
We can argue if it was wise playing Pogba in that game. Pure tactical. Not looking at a potential injury. He played because he needed minutes. He played because he was given green light from doctors.Well, I remember thinking it was stupid to have Pogba play against Rochdale after coming back from injury, as we had Arsenal just days later. He ended up playing both games (120mins and 90mins). I also thought immediately when I saw McTominay wincing on the pitch that he should come off, sharpish, as again, Pogba was being nursed back form injury and we were going to need McTominay desperately. Played on. Definitely made it worse. Then Maguire, carries on playing after tearing a muscle, in an FA Cup game that's basically an interference for us now as we don't have the players to cope with the amount of games. Then, there's the Rashford nightmare.
Speculation? I've watched it unfold, same as everyone else.
I did argue that. It was stupid to play him. That's my opinion. And it was stupid to continue to play Maguire and McTominay after they were injured. And it was stupid to never rest Rashford. Fair enough, you see nothing wrong with this. I'm at the opposite side of the spectrum.We can argue if it was wise playing Pogba in that game. Pure tactical. Not looking at a potential injury. He played because he needed minutes. He played because he was given green light from doctors.
McTom would have come of if I was manager because he was not 100 after he went down. Maguire was injuried for a game. Nothing to be said there. And Rashford, as much as you love to blame Solskjaer, would have had a No go from medic team if they thought he couldn’t play.
If medic team is influenced by things is another matter and if we hade a bigger squad maybe we would not have those injuries but we have the squad we have. And as long as we don’t get players we will be fragile to injuries.
Pogba had to take time out to do the operation anyways, or are you saying Ole caused his injuries this season? Scott was injured, he is still out. How can he possibly be ready now, with better time management? Rashford had to rest out his initial injury now even before he got the second one. The next injury only ment he'd be out for longer now.It's normal to have injuries but Ole's stupid management of injured players has led to aggravating the majority of them. Maybe with smarter management we would have had Pogba, Scott and Rashford playing now, instead of stupidly rushing them for useless cup games or keeping playing them while they were injuried. There are no two ways about it, his management of injuries has been the dumbest I have seen.
Honestly find it pretty weird how are some using injuries as an excuse for him when he played a direct role in aggravating the majority of them.
Pogba was rushed from injury against Rochdale. Scott played 40 more minutes on his injury instead of being subbed immediately on. Rashford was subbed on while suffering from various knocks instead of getting rest to give these knocks some time to heal. All this aggravated their injuries and set them back for further more time than what it should have been.Pogba had to take time out to do the operation anyways, or are you saying Ole caused his injuries this season? Scott was injured, he is still out. How can he possibly be ready now, with better time management? Rashford had to rest out his initial injury now even before he got the second one. The next injury only ment he'd be out for longer now.
I get that the squad is thin, I get that we need a culture where players want to give everything for the club but we do need responsible people managing them. I don't think it has been really bad so far. It is a thin angle, not enough substance to form a valid statement about it.
I think we need to see a few more incidents to confirm the suspicion. What we've seen is very normal in football, imo. A player gets played against a shit team to gain fitness before an important game, got injured. Happens to injury prone players all the time. A player tries to play on, doesn't manage to do so and goes off with injury. Or did something else happen with McTominay that I'm forgetting? As for the Rashford situation, I'm certain Kane has done something similar every year the last few seasons. Both play a game through injury and get injured, and get injured coming back from previous injury. Better not hire Poch then?
No. You are arguing that it is Solskjaer who made them injuried. Nothing about tactical. Something I prove is wrong because no manager can play a player unless they get ok from medical team. Hansn’t anyone been around professional teams and know how this stuff work?I did argue that. It was stupid to play him. That's my opinion. And it was stupid to continue to play Maguire and McTominay after they were injured. And it was stupid to never rest Rashford. Fair enough, you see nothing wrong with this. I'm at the opposite side of the spectrum.
Why do you always try to get at Solskjaer? Every day, every time, every way. We know you hate him and it is ok. But come on. There is need to argue about things Solskjaer have little to do with. As I said. Managers trusts their medical teams and follow their advices.Pogba was rushed from injury against Rochdale. Scott played 40 more minutes on his injury instead of being subbed immediately on. Rashford was subbed on while suffering from various knocks instead of getting rest to give these knocks some time to heal. All this aggravated their injuries and set them back for further more time than what it should have been.