Did Poch really say that?Fairly pointed quotes there on the back of Pochs "winning cups is for for the ego, we want to finish top 4" comments yesterday.
good man Ole, mind games straight out of the Fergie play book.
Yep, you could easily believe both quotes came from the Wenger vs Fergie days.Thanks.
This is so Wenger-ish.
Sign him up, Woody, sign him up.
Not saying that I expect the team to be playing Barca style football right away, but that's the type of controlling game we should be looking for. LvG's ball retention was not bad, it's just that after the success he had with the dutch team playing ultra defensive football at the world cup, he was too scared to let the team do damage with the possession based football we played. He had the attackers in a shackle. As for Maureen, the less said the better.
There are many teams that are more successful (in terms of trophies) than United over the decades or so. But (other than winning trophies), it's the type of football that have brought United to be the most marketable team (with the most fans) in the whole world. That last Summer Tour display in US was just a disgrace to the empire SAF had built.
I take it as a compliment. Ole is doing so well they think we are as good as we used to be under Fergie. It's denial because in their mind, if Ole is really the boss, then we just got another Fergie. And that's a stuff of nightmare for them.
Thats one way to look at it. I like that. Let them be afraid!
very well said! I like it.
Totally agree! We're the best supported and one of the richest teams on the planet- any manager that has aspirations of us being anything other than number one should immediately be dismissed!(Moyes/ Mourinho) Couldn't handle that expectation and tried to bring them down... not Ole!
Tbf, although I detest the man, Mourinho pretty much said the same things in his first two seasons. When things went south it wouldn't have made sense for him to continue talking up our ambitions like that. Ole can do so right now because our awful league position is not his doing.
the contrast is stark. I really want Ole on a permanent basis.
Correct.
We will know pretty much all we will need to know by the time we've played City in March. We've a tough run of games now for any team and Manager so it will be a great indication of Ole's suitability long term. I'm all aboard the Ole train now and I am keeping all my fingers crossed for the next month or so.
Yeah, was not impressed by that statement at all. That big game mentality seems to be lacking on crunch occasions. May be its the Tottenham job he's too much into, or may be the lack of killer instinct in himself when you reach the final hurdle, that has always worried me about pochh, though the conditions at Tottenham do not suit a title winning mentality with injuries and lack of squad depth in quality. Can't blame the manager for missing penalties and simple chances as well.
Pochettino is in a Mourinhoesque situation. He's got a job to do but not been given the money to achieve it. Leads to him deflecting and protecting his own reputation. Unlike Jose though, he's actually done a good job to warrant transfer funds.
Fair enough but it becomes a self fulfilling thing. We don't care we are out of the cups. Players care just a tiny bit less and those are the margins at that level. I don't pretend to say I have the answer to how to go about it but that acceptance of defeat leads to more defeats imo.
Yeah, he’s a moron and doesn’t seem to have grown out of it. I was wrong by the way, it wasn’t ‘the Daddy’ it was ‘The Gov’nor’ he wanted to be known as.Bloody hell, did not know that! What an idiot. (Not me, Ince.) He probably thought it was hilarious.
Thanks, btw.
Oh, don't remind me....
That failure to go the final mile and close is what saw them fail to capitalize and win the league over Leicester - one team was playing to win, the other was playing with a mentality of "oh if we win, itd be nice, but if not, no biggies. Progress"
How is Ole free of pressure? If United had been slapped by Spurs and/or Arsenal, or even if he'd have come in and gotten dissapointing results against other teams, right now many of us (myself included most likely) would be moaning about getting shot of Mourinho for a caretaker who couldn't hack it.
I knew about Gov'nor, but had no idea he had a rifle in his gym bag. Still
I think Poch is just laying the foundations for his departure this summer. Making sure all his reasons for moving to a more ambitious club are out in the open and hard to argue with.
Yep. I'm not saying he is flawless, but give the guy a big club and some money and see if he still chats shit about trophies. Think deep down he is angry and frustrated at not being able to win, and wants a platform to achieve it.
) but I'd be disappointed at sacrificing the FA cup especially at the risk of ending the season without trophies.Have you heard of the concept of a jinx? If we don't win tonight, I putting all the blame squarely on you.
It'll also be the first time in PL history that a manager has won their first 7 league games. Current record is 6 held by Pep, Mourinho, Ancelotti and our very own Ole.
