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When he wasn’t sacked after the Liverpool debacle he never will be.
Ole Sack Watch
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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When he wasn’t sacked after the Liverpool debacle he never will be.
Looking at the list of players left behind, he barely uses most of them so he probably doesn't care what form they are in.
Meanwhile, Watford - which probably doesn't have many internationals - would already be working on their tactics against us.
‘Nowadays Ole Gunnar wanna press like he got tactics to play, but nothing comes out when he moves his lips - just a bunch of gibberish about ‘expressing yourself’, cuz they forget he’s Ole’.
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Nothing surprises me about MUFC.
The team, are a complete mess. The tactics are non-existent. The team have no idea how to solve the mess.
So....let's all go on holiday.
That's exactly what I'd expect our club to do.
Just seen the news about Ole and his sudden holiday back home.
I think that is a clear sign that he know's he has to leave, but is waiting for them to sack him so he can get his money.
I think that is a clear sign that he know's he has to leave, but is waiting for them to sack him so he can get his money.
If I were Watford, I'd be looking to get 3 easy points and working on goal difference.Looking at the list of players left behind, he barely uses most of them so he probably doesn't care what form they are in.
Meanwhile, Watford - which probably doesn't have many internationals - would already be working on their tactics against us.
We are there for the taking.
Doesn't want to spend his last week having to look at or interact with VdB.
I assume he will get fined for taking his kid's out of school?
Good point made on Twitter tonight.
What's the point of sacking Ole and keeping the coaching staff. It's all or nothing and the board are unwilling to change thing's mid season it appears.
What's the point of sacking Ole and keeping the coaching staff. It's all or nothing and the board are unwilling to change thing's mid season it appears.
This line of 'no obvious candidate' is really grinding my gears along with most options would be risky. What about the risk in not making a change. Ole is a known quantity at this point. Make a change already. It might work out!
I also keep reading about the Glazers being businessmen. Surely they want a ROI after buying Ronaldo, Sancho, Varane, Van De Beek, Maguire et al. The money they would make if we were successful with Ronaldo is off the charts.
I also keep reading about the Glazers being businessmen. Surely they want a ROI after buying Ronaldo, Sancho, Varane, Van De Beek, Maguire et al. The money they would make if we were successful with Ronaldo is off the charts.
‘Nowadays Ole Gunnar wanna press like he got tactics to play, but nothing comes out when he moves his lips - just a bunch of gibberish about ‘expressing yourself’, cuz motherfeckers act like they forgot about Ole’.
I mean those coaches can also learn from the head coach. A lot of their role would be running the session as dicated by the head coach. Relaying info from the analysis. I would bet a lot of money that Carrick at the least has tried to suggest something else. Ultimately, Ole is in charge.
Most coaches only bring 1-2 with them. I'd imagine Phelan gets the boot and Carrick/McKenna could get a tryout with any new hypothetical manager.
The worst thing about the recent 2 big defeats is that both coaches, Klopp and Pep actually specifically talked through how to take apart the team when we go for an attacking formation (Klopp) and how to play against us when we pack our defence (Pep).
I can see a lot of lesser teams take on these blueprints and pull the team apart if Ole stays on in any capacity.
The manner of both defeats was painful enough, but the coaches comments afterwards could end up costing us a lot more points in the medium term.
I'm just hoping that it's the case that 'Hooray....Hooray.....it's an Ole Holiday!" means he is actually leaving the club so we can get a fresh approach for the rest of the season.
I can see a lot of lesser teams take on these blueprints and pull the team apart if Ole stays on in any capacity.
The manner of both defeats was painful enough, but the coaches comments afterwards could end up costing us a lot more points in the medium term.
I'm just hoping that it's the case that 'Hooray....Hooray.....it's an Ole Holiday!" means he is actually leaving the club so we can get a fresh approach for the rest of the season.
The gif on ole pointing left right centre and ronaldo’s point left right centre up down, comes to mind.
Haha, such a sorry noob.
Haha, such a sorry noob.
Rumour has it its because he's gonna walk.
They also both admitted that the wins were piss easy, Klopp said he stopped at 0-5 because he didnt want to risk any injuries, and Pep said he made no subs even though they had played a Champions League match just 2 days earlier because the game was so easy .
Ole did a great trop transitioning away from Jose and rebuilding the playing list.
But he is not the manger who can take this club to the next level.
Ole is a club legend but he is not the manager that is most suitable for this club right now.
But he is not the manger who can take this club to the next level.
Ole is a club legend but he is not the manager that is most suitable for this club right now.
This exact same argument must been posted about 3,545,538 times.
There’s nothing inherently wrong with having Carrick and McKenna as part of the coaching staff. If we get a manager who actually coaches the team, rather than believes himself to be above it for no clear reason, and said manager brings in some of his own coaches so that our two guys aren’t the only coaches, I don’t see why they can’t contribute something.
The big issue with the Carrick McKenna setup right now is that they’re both left to do the coaching on their own, which is ridiculous. If you gave them as two extra coaches to Pep or Klopp, managers who actually coach despite being the top two managers in the world, I don’t think those two setups will be worse off for it.
I’m still not sure what Phelan does right now and so I won’t comment on it but he doesn’t seem like one that would have any reason to stick around when Ole goes.
The big issue with the Carrick McKenna setup right now is that they’re both left to do the coaching on their own, which is ridiculous. If you gave them as two extra coaches to Pep or Klopp, managers who actually coach despite being the top two managers in the world, I don’t think those two setups will be worse off for it.
I’m still not sure what Phelan does right now and so I won’t comment on it but he doesn’t seem like one that would have any reason to stick around when Ole goes.
Carrick, Mckenna and the new guy can go to train the youth teams...you know, where they should've been all this time.
So not only has Ole taken his kids out of school during term, he also flew on a private jet.
This man is just pure evil.
This man is just pure evil.
These guys should not be coaching a Premier League Team as their first role or few years of coaching.... Just wouldn't happen elsewhere...even if the manager was inexperienced they would usually have a strong and experienced coaching setup.
They need to get it over with so the fans can move on and have something to look forward to. This has run its course.
It was not only Klopp and Pep. Owen and Scholes said before the match what was going to happen. Against City DeGea was so good he kept the score down to 2. If he was not on top of his game, they could have scored 5 too.
The worst part about both defeats especially City is the fact they were in cruise control. Yes DeGea kept the score down but it felt like if City needed to win 4-0 they easily could.
It happens all the time?
Rumour has it Ole is attending a film premiere:
I've copied the below from Samuel Luckhurst.
Moyes's last game: Everton on Easter Sunday, sacked two days later on the Tuesday.
Van Gaal's last game: Palace on Saturday, sacked two days later on the Monday.
Mourinho's last game: Liverpool on Sunday, sacked two days later on the Tuesday.
Moyes's last game: Everton on Easter Sunday, sacked two days later on the Tuesday.
Van Gaal's last game: Palace on Saturday, sacked two days later on the Monday.
Mourinho's last game: Liverpool on Sunday, sacked two days later on the Tuesday.
So Ole has lasted the magical 3 days since City so he is staying ?
I think he's survived or they're giving him a extra day due to being associated with the club.
Just this strong feeling. When I saw him just sitting on the bench, looking resigned when his team was beat up and toyed around; I think he knew the verdict already.
Agree with every thing you said mate. It’s crazy how some think they’re “better” fans because they go to games. I live in Australia, I’ve been to England 4 times just to get to watch United, spend thousands on flights, hundreds on game tickets and then accommodation too, just to get to watch my team play. During the season, games are usually 2am-4am here, meaning I’m getting half a nights rest just to watch us play. But apparently people like myself shouldnt have a say because we weren’t fortunate to grow up within walking distance of the stadium.
True. I don't mind with Carrick and McKenna here. They've been with 3 managers, familiar with the squad and how things are going within United. It's important to smooth the transition. They both seem like modest guys with no ego, and should work well with the next regime.
And you hit the nail that making them as main coaches is the big problem.
It’s Monday night in America, so Joel Glazer has already made his decision and considering we haven’t heard anything, it all but cements Ole being here for Watford.
He has survived, I don’t know how and why but he has.
There was a stonewall penalty near the end that wasn't given, because the ref pitied us.
Yeah got away with that. Nothing wrong with losing 2-0 to City but that was like a training match it was horrible
True. It was raining also, and it supposedly ruin a possession based team like City more. It's like Chelsea welcoming Barca with sprinkler but bigger.
It was such a walk it was embarrassing. The sad part about the Liverpool game was I didn’t think they played that great and City were in second gear yet we got smashed twice
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