I think he is still one of the best managers in the game. He is probably too softish towards established players like Rooney. How Rooney could have convinced LvG that he was still a 25-goals-a-season striker is beyond me. Not having bought a clinical striker in the summer was LvG's biggest mistake, because you had rock solid defense and with an effective striker upfront you'd be competing for the title.
Opposition fans view - Louis van Gaal
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Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
Van Gaal has been guilty of his fair share of Moyes esque statements to be honest. He has succeeded in lowering our expectations. And this season he definitely doesn't act like someone who belongs at a top club. He makes every game out to be too difficult and no matter who we are playing, Arsenal ladies even, he'll say "it wont be easy" or "they made it too difficult for us to create opportunities as they dared to defend deep." He is Moyes in disguise
Was initially worried he might have the charisma to take the hot seat at Utd. But never in my wildest, orgasmic, imagination did I think he would do worse than Moyes.
Once the clauses kick in this summer he'll be gone. Pound for pound he's done worse than Rodgers in the premier league. Brendan did warn him.
Once the clauses kick in this summer he'll be gone. Pound for pound he's done worse than Rodgers in the premier league. Brendan did warn him.
I agree with what you are saying. Most importantly United must shake off Fergie's era and rebuilt from bottom to top. Can't see someone taking the mantle and continuing Fergie's job in the current circumstances and what we have as a structure already at the club.
The model is pretty clear in regards to manager - recycle till you find someone that sticks and back him. Then after 5 years which will be the time he'll stay continue the process and so forth. We need to change the model at the top as well - DoF, bottom - better scouting network, academy to play a style similar to ours and so forth.
There's a lot to do.
Pretty much spot on. One of my mates who supports Chelsea was telling me he shouldn't even be managing championship let alone United even after the good preseason... looks like he was right.
I don't think anyone thought he was the 'messiah'. There was obvious relief that someone credible had been brought in after the Moyes debacle, but let's face it, LVG was never anyone's first or even second choice for the job.
I remember when he was getting linked with the Spurs job I was thinking to myself that I'd have thought they'd have been better off looking elsewhere, so you can imagine my response when he ended up at United. The reaction to van Gaal's sub for the penalty shootout was hilarious though, sure it was a brave and good decision, but it's hardly the sort of the thing that defines a manager.
4th and an FA Cup might have seen him hold on for another season. As things stand, you're staring at another season of second tier European football, and an average squad built up over the last two years.
Would love him to stay, but looks like he's a goner come the day after you win the FA Cup.
Would love him to stay, but looks like he's a goner come the day after you win the FA Cup.
This is Wenger we're talking about, isn't it?
Nah, he'll stay and play in the Champions League next season.This is Wenger we're talking about, isn't it?
Why....seriously why?
I think so. Will be a good day.
It's hilarious, to be completely honest with you.
Cos, that's been your bar for the last 10 years. New motto:
'Arsenal- Not Winning Anything but Qualifying'
Arsenal fan
Hope he gets the sack - you're going nowhere with him. It's sad to see.
We should make oppossition fans view on giggs taking over, that'll be interesting.
Any sort of proper Rival would want LVG to be in charge for 20 years
Any sort of proper Rival would want LVG to be in charge for 20 years
It's obviously going to be "Yes please!!! Make this shit happen !@#@!$!".
Meh, you're absolutely right but Wenger is a joke these days, too. Pot, kettle and all that lark.
That's something for a club as big as Arsenal to be proud of. Perennial qualifiers.
Pretty much this, yeah. Giggs is completely unproven as a manager, of course most oppossition fans will be happy to see him take over. Would be more interesting to appoint Ole though.
ok makes sense now
A risk not worth taking. Van Gaal's successor doesn't need him and he needs to try his hand at management in charge of his own team where he's responsible for a team's fortunes. Doubt he's overly keen to manage or work at a club not named Manchester United.
Of course it's good fun when your rivals are not playing well but you're still ahead of us in the league even with a donkey like LvG in charge... I wouldn't be that bothered if he got the sack, you're bound to become better somewhere in the near future anyway so... I just hope it's not Mourinho who takes over because I hate him already and being the new United manager certainly won't help, especially if he brings you back into the title conversation.
I'll laugh if someone like Giggs or Solskjaer will take over though, but I doubt that'll happen. Another year with LvG would be fine for me either, although I've never seen the Caf not moaning about almost everything football related so it might make for a nice change if he does get fired.
I'll laugh if someone like Giggs or Solskjaer will take over though, but I doubt that'll happen. Another year with LvG would be fine for me either, although I've never seen the Caf not moaning about almost everything football related so it might make for a nice change if he does get fired.
I really hope you are onto something here Donaldo.
When LVG was appointed in the first place, I was a bit apprehensive. Was happy that Utd didn't get one of Klopp/Jose/Pep/Simione. What a joke of a manager LVG has proved to be. He is so hilarious. Much worse than Moyes ever was if you include the money spent. Martial and De Gea single handedly were performing.
Rooney didnt convince him. LvG decided that Rooney is a 25-goals a season striker. That indicates that LvG cannot judje and he is not a good manager anymore. Most of the people saw that Rooney is past it since last year but not him. SAF and his staff saw it 3 years ago. Rooney is finished, not as a striker but as footballer in general. Now Rooney decided that wants to be a cm because even him understands now that he is playing as a 50 years old war veteran missing a leg. But is LvG who decides who plays and where, not Rooney. It was his decision to go with Rooney, Fellaini, Blind (as a cb) and now Lingard as his main players that has cost us this year. So, IMO a guy who thinks that the defensive, boring football we play is a part of an amazing philosophy and a guy who cant judge if Rooney is still a great striker, is a guy who doesnt function in todays football. And lets be honest, both his bayern team and the netherlands had an amazing ride of luck with him.
All my scouse mates want him to get a ten year contract, like they did with Moyes.
How long before 'Wenger out'? I say December.
But we've been shit (objectively speaking) for years now so we're used to it. It's hilarious seeing United fans, who became so used to winning under Fergie, throwing their toys out of the pram coz you're not winning the league every year. And tbh you're miles off winning it. And say what you want about Wenger but we've never been as shit as you guys have in the past few years.
Ok.
LVG and Wenger should stay forever.
He's shit. Keep him.
Ok a serious post.
He is shit and how the feck United are still within a chance of fourth is crackers
He is shit and how the feck United are still within a chance of fourth is crackers
I thought he'd do much better. Hope he stays. In hindsight, it's hilarious how many united fans were talking about having the best manager in the league when he arrived.
Still sad that you didn't keep Moyes. The lolz he produced will never be equalled in our lifetime I fear.
Still sad that you didn't keep Moyes. The lolz he produced will never be equalled in our lifetime I fear.
Posted this in another thread but its more apt here
Brendan in his post Suarez period was the funniest thing ever though.
I wouldn't know. I literally didn't watch interviews or even read them from him.
Holy crap. Even a WHU fan is feeling sorry for us.
I agree with him 100%.
And with regards to us not having enough top class players - again, LVG cannot manage those sorts of players, so they won't join us. And any Galactico class player which does join, wants to leave soon after.
Rooney and LVG both need to retire immediately, for the good of MUFC.
I hope that Mourinho has balls to bench/sell/remove Rooney from MUFC's first team.
I just can't believe they didn't sack him in January. Did the club really think he was going to turn it around and improve the team? They've got to that FA cup final basically manager-less, he may as well not be there. Even yesterday against West Ham Bilic was going crazy shouting instructions in the 90th minute and he's sat in his dugout, playing Scrabble on his ipad or whatever. I don't know if anyone agrees but it just seems like he doesn't want to be there. I want to see Giggs in charge next .
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