Reading the Islamic schools and the recent child abuse cases, I can't help but wonder if it's more...
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Distorted schooling of religion and history is definetly a problem.
The army is marching to islamabad.
Pakistani Taliban fighters attack military-run school in Peshawar
Pakistani Taliban fighters have attacked a military-run school in Peshawar, in northwest Pakistan, in a raid that is thought to have killed at least ten children.
The death toll is difficult to confirm as many of the bodies remain inside the school as security forces try to retake it from the attackers, Al Jazeera sources said.
Hospital sources told Al Jazeera at least 28 more people had been wounded in Tuesday's attack on the school.
Peshawar's Lady Reading Hospital confirmed that there were four bodies at the hospital. A journalist at the scene in Peshawar said the toll was likely to rise.
"The situation is very grim. According to inside sources at least ten children have died and the fighting is ongoing," Zahir Shah Sherazi said.
"All the roads leading to this area have been cordoned off. We don't have a clear idea what is going on inside, but some sources are saying there are more bodies lying inside."
A spokesman for a faction of the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), or Pakistani Taliban, said the attackers had been ordered to shoot older students at the school.
Military officials said at least six armed men entered the Army Public School and that about 500 students and teachers were believed to be inside.
The attack began at about 11am local time (06:00 GMT).
An initial blast as the attackers hit the school was followed by a second explosion a short time later. Small-arms fire has been heard throughout the raid as security forces continue to try to retake the school.
A heavy contingent of security forces arrived at the school shortly after the attack began and the operation is ongoing.
Retaliation attack
Muhammad Khorasani, TTP spokesperson, told Al Jazeera that six suicide bombers had been sent to the school.
He said the attackers had been given orders to allow the youngest students to leave, but to kill the rest.
The attack was in retaliation to an ongoing Pakistan Army operation against the TTP and its allies in the North Waziristan tribal area, Khorasani said.
The Pakistani military began Operation Zarb-e-Azb against the TTP and its allies on June 15, and says that it has so far retaken larges areas of territory from the group, killing more than 1,270.
The army is also carrying out a military operation in Khyber Agency, which borders Peshawar, where it says it has killed at least 179 fighters.
Al Jazeera's Kamal Hyder, reporting from Islamabad, said the casualty toll was likely to rise.
"This is a soft target, no one would expect a school to be attacked and children would be involved," he said.
"This will only strengthen the public's resolve to carry on supporting the army."
Pakistani Taliban fighters have attacked a military-run school in Peshawar, in northwest Pakistan, in a raid that is thought to have killed at least ten children.
The death toll is difficult to confirm as many of the bodies remain inside the school as security forces try to retake it from the attackers, Al Jazeera sources said.
Hospital sources told Al Jazeera at least 28 more people had been wounded in Tuesday's attack on the school.
Peshawar's Lady Reading Hospital confirmed that there were four bodies at the hospital. A journalist at the scene in Peshawar said the toll was likely to rise.
"The situation is very grim. According to inside sources at least ten children have died and the fighting is ongoing," Zahir Shah Sherazi said.
"All the roads leading to this area have been cordoned off. We don't have a clear idea what is going on inside, but some sources are saying there are more bodies lying inside."
A spokesman for a faction of the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), or Pakistani Taliban, said the attackers had been ordered to shoot older students at the school.
Military officials said at least six armed men entered the Army Public School and that about 500 students and teachers were believed to be inside.
The attack began at about 11am local time (06:00 GMT).
An initial blast as the attackers hit the school was followed by a second explosion a short time later. Small-arms fire has been heard throughout the raid as security forces continue to try to retake the school.
A heavy contingent of security forces arrived at the school shortly after the attack began and the operation is ongoing.
Retaliation attack
Muhammad Khorasani, TTP spokesperson, told Al Jazeera that six suicide bombers had been sent to the school.
He said the attackers had been given orders to allow the youngest students to leave, but to kill the rest.
The attack was in retaliation to an ongoing Pakistan Army operation against the TTP and its allies in the North Waziristan tribal area, Khorasani said.
The Pakistani military began Operation Zarb-e-Azb against the TTP and its allies on June 15, and says that it has so far retaken larges areas of territory from the group, killing more than 1,270.
The army is also carrying out a military operation in Khyber Agency, which borders Peshawar, where it says it has killed at least 179 fighters.
Al Jazeera's Kamal Hyder, reporting from Islamabad, said the casualty toll was likely to rise.
"This is a soft target, no one would expect a school to be attacked and children would be involved," he said.
"This will only strengthen the public's resolve to carry on supporting the army."
This will only strengthen the resolve the public has against them. Zarb e azb has been debated quite a bit among Pakistanis but in general the support is with the army to do whatever they can (the displacement of many people is a massive though).
A reminder if needed that Muslims have bore the brunt of fundamentalism more than anyone else.
A reminder if needed that Muslims have bore the brunt of fundamentalism more than anyone else.
Poor kids. I consider myself lucky to have a moral compass that finds these things abhorrent and inhumane. For the pieces of shit who commited the atrocity and those who fund and support them I hope they suffer.
Reports say atleast 100 students have been killed so far 
Jesus I hope it's not that high. BBC are saying around 30 no?
Over 100 children feared dead. These are kids FFS.
A couple of journos on twitter reporting 104 reportedly killed, 84 of whom are children. Possibly more. Even Jamaat e islami (islamist party and frequent apologists for radicals) has condemned this. Pakistani news anchors are struggling to read out the updates with composure.
Nope, 84 bodies are confirmed. 100 figure comes from the chief minister for that district, 10 men wearing army uniform. Two killed and one blew himself.
Jesus christ.. over 100 kids.. what madness
feck sakes
ARY anchors/reporters are being cnuts about it. Playing music, displaying breaking news banners/ary exclusive, repeatedly asking questions from a crying kid, etc.
I'm streaming GEO TV, utter chaos
Mentalists! I wonder if these people have children of their own?
Really tragic this, another by product of the mayhem caused by Bush and Blair with their meddling in Afghanistan and not helping with the indiscriminate drone attacks by the US subsequently.
Not sure how any of that should provide any motivation to bomb a children's school
but why should that lead to killing children from your country, even as an act of revenge
Its in response of the army operation currently happening.
Their leader said they attacked the school and killed children as the army attacks their family and they wanted the rest to feel their pain.
How I hope that fecker is captured and tortured to death.
Look up the drone attacks by the US and number of innocent children and women killed, im not saying what they done in retaliation is right but there are some pretty pissed off pathans in the NWFP.
It's actually quite tribal up there i doubt they identify with Pakistan at all.
What nonsense. How does that justify this?
This is sickening. Thoughts and prayers with all of the innocent victims and their families. Disgusting actions, yet again.
To specifically target children is truly disgusting and cowardly act. What a fecked up world this is...
I hope any remaining sympathisers of the Taliban/extremist groups in Pakistan and the Pakistani army now realise just what monsters these cnuts are.
I hope any remaining sympathisers of the Taliban/extremist groups in Pakistan and the Pakistani army now realise just what monsters these cnuts are.
Never said it did.
via Reuters: WE TARGETED SCHOOL BECAUSE ARMY TARGETS OUR FAMILIES. WE WANT THEM TO FEEL OUR PAIN, Say Taliban
500 kids still being held hostage inside the school. News reporters shoving mics in front of grieving parents.
That's what your post implied. You might not have meant it, but at this moment, there is no point raising US/UK foreign policy as it is irrelevant in this case.
Death toll rises to 126
And Pakistan and ISI supporting this Taliban at inception stage and to operate in Afghanistan was all fine ?
Really tragic this. The scumbags killing Children.
RIP.
Some horrific stories being reported.
RIP.
Some horrific stories being reported.
No people need to know the background and conditions on why these attacks happen how else is it going to stop?
Pakistan army is an ally of the US who also helped the Taliban at inception so yes they have to take some responsibility too.
Need to exterminate these first militarily then tactically or this is not gonna stop now. They are brainwashed.
It's because of the military activity this attack happened.
The army didnt go in as hard as they should have against TTP because of all the sympathisers and criticism against the operation.
After this, there will be no sympathy and the army will have a free hand to attack the taliban as they see fit.
After this, there will be no sympathy and the army will have a free hand to attack the taliban as they see fit.
Sorry, still it is irrelevant. Yes, people in general know about US/UK foreign policy and those weren't the best of decisions. This point you are making might have been slightly linked had the attacks been in US/UK but they are in Pakistan. The religion based terrorism has been in existence before those foreign policies and independent of it. Maybe those policies by US aggravated it in some way but still it is no justification or major reason for such attacks and especially this attack.
ISI basically created Taliban from 1994 onwards to have favorable regime in Afghanistan. Even Pakistani's were fighting in Afghanistan along with them in a majorit. Then they were provided military and financial aid and what not.
USA didn't help taliban directly though tactically later but Al Qaeda part yeah they did.
When after 9/11 USA turned back on Taliban and Pakistan had to toe the Pakistani talibani fighters have now revolted.