Sorry, Phil Bardsley.....not Gibson. You must have seen the video in Rooney's kitchen?
Paul Parker: 'Wayne Rooney is overweight and slow.'
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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I'm doing the equivalent of sitting at the pub in front of the quizzer chatting shit over a pint with the lads around the table. I'm not a paid pundit who's quotes are being recycled by newspapers and printed for consumption.
Well said, people quite easily forget that LVG used 12 forward players as a single striker or part of a two. (Rooney, RVP, Will Keane, Powell, Falcao, Di Maria, Young, Fellaini, Wilson, Chicharito, Rashford, Martial) Surely that is enough to signal the sirens that something is not right with the way the boss wanted the striker(s) to play. It wasn't that Rooney was just plain shite up front, Van Gaal kept categorically stating that Rooney was doing exactly what he wanted him to do. It is a completely different scenario for being shite for the sake of it, people kept saying "Why is he not running in behind at all.." because that was not in the tactical MO. Van Gaal had to literally sub a player to get us tactically to run in behind more, he could have just asked whoever it was to just do it. Don't forget he dropped Rashford for not staying up front enough as well.
The guy was a few quid short of a full wallet. But essentially (and rather laziliy while towing the tabloid narrative) it has boiled down to "Rooney didn't do anything last year, therefore he is shite."
It is the entire crux of the "lets just wait and see what Jose does" mentality that I have adopted. LVG wanted the striker to have 10 touches a game, for crying out loud.
I'm surprised that's all he said, I honestly expected much worse. I could have have done a better job
His first touch has been woeful for 5 years at least, it's not exactly a new development.
I just saw a highlight reel from the weekends game. He is truly awful and not fit for the first team anymore.
That's painful to watch.
That touch in the third clip
Nobody is saying that he was/is the only problem for the last 3 years under Moyes and LVG. What is unanimously agreed upon is that we are/were lacking goals, control in the attacking 3rd and creativity and he happens to be in the pivotal position where the majority of that should come from.
Both Moyes and LVG in their own inept ways stifled the team via poor man management and tactics that hamstrung the team as a whole. In any case, this thread is talking about how he is slow and other declining attributes. As much as I think that the previous 2 regimes spanning 3 years have been abject mediocrity at best I can't give Rooney another season to try and prove people wrong at the expense of other players. The problem is bigger than just his position. It is a domino affect, because if you play him you have to change other players in other positions and possibly formations. I could understand if he was someone worth building the team around but no reasonable person can say that he qualifies for that approach/honour.
** I blame LVG and Moyes for hanging their hats on Rooney to create and get goals. However, the reason why he is "out of shape" in some people's opinions, Slow, has an undesirable first touch (for a player in such an important position and his wages), down to Moyes & LVG? I blame them for many things but Rooney's decline in all the above attributes over their respective tenures is certainly not one of them. Why did far less experienced players perform well last season despite LVG's influence? Rooney seems to always have to have excuses and be the exception with some people on here. When you consider the facts and all that I have said I think I am not the one who can be called blinkered to be fair...
Honestly that is so bad it's unreal. It's as if we were short and asked one of the fans if they fancied a game.
Looks like a pub player in this clip
Look at the ball just bounce of him like a brick wall in that third clip 09.31.
looks like a pub player who had just come out of the pub. Murphy must have been in there with him if he thought he was wonderful.
Sometimes I feel for him.
I liked it when one of his passes hit a Bournemouth player and rebounded to Blind. Blind gave it back to him so he turned in the other direction and passed straight to another Bournemouth player.
I hope these quotes get the coverage it deserves.
It's about damn time someone in the "public eye" although not well-known has spoken the truth and exactly how the supporters feel.
I'm sick of British pundits praising him every week for God awful performances.
He needs to be dropped, pain and simple. This has been going on far too long.
It's about damn time someone in the "public eye" although not well-known has spoken the truth and exactly how the supporters feel.
I'm sick of British pundits praising him every week for God awful performances.
He needs to be dropped, pain and simple. This has been going on far too long.
that roulette at 71:58
Absolutely disgraceful "performance".
If if wasn't for his goal, I'd start to question Jose's bottle if he started tomorrow.
I can understand loosing your pace, acceleration, hunger and everything, but the first touch? And it is so in the extreme regarding Rooney, there are honestly attempts at first touches in that video which I would have done better.
He's so obviously finished it's painful. Can't believe he's become such a big problem at our club, and it's largely ignored outside of our fanbase. Journalists and pundits still talk about him as if he's up there with Ronaldo. Never have I seen a player live off a reputation to this level.
Slightly ironic claim to make in a thread where the OP is an article by a pundit tearing him to shreds.
Also.
It's kind of amazing that this is the same player who was once known for his energetic, powerful football.
While not wanting to defend him, that is cherry picked for his worst moments. I'm sure we could cherry pick Zlatan's worst from that game - he gave the ball away a few times. Rooney did score, but that's not in the video. It would be better to present the facts as they are and let people make their minds up.
He's Steven Seagal right now. Bloated, aged and slow, still thinks he's a star but can't do half of the shit he used to do.
All he had was that goal. He didn't create for others, dribble past players, or anything really.
I watched the Charity S and lied to myself "its early yet, he's finding his fitness", but I know I'll be saying that 6 months from now.
Maybe, but you can't see that from that video.
My word. This is even worse than I remember.
Paul Parker doesn't count. Every time I see him mentioned serves as a reminder that he even exists. I want to see him called out by Neville, Carragher, Redknapp, Shearer, etc.
That video has an agenda.
He's not ripped by any means, and he would benefit greatly from being fitter. That being said, why did Rooney lose so much pace in such little time? He used to be very fast, albeit not Giggs fast, and now he's so ponderous, especially on the first few yards. Also, he's about as agile as Carrick these days. Comparing him to Scholes, who even at 36 was nippy and agile although slow, is just ridiculous.
There's a full clip of all his touches in the game in his performance thread, not much difference.
If you guys think this video is bad wait till someone makes one of the Leicester game.
The worst part is that he doesn't look to give a feck on any of those misses, and they are so so bad!
To show the truth? He did make those touches, right? He truly and really is that abysmal a lot of the time now.
Your sarcasm detector needs an update.
Crikey, that was, unbelievably, even worse.
I've put him in ahead of Lukaku in my fantasy team this weekend...
I will get my technicians working on it right away!
See, who says he can't impress anymore?