Pedro at Chelsea
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These are Dutch people. What looks like a masterstroke to others is normal common sense for them.
Bergkamp went through the same criticism. "Why try to go for the spectacular all the time when you can slide it into the bottom corner?" then he came out and said it's just how he thought would be the best way to beat the keeper.
I don't think Van Gaal considers any of his ideas as masterstrokes.
When you look at the team that starts against Newcastle. Only two of them is from the SAF era. That is a lot of changes in a short period of time. The statement "considering how much we've spent" does not justify the reality. We litteraly bought a new squad. This things takes time, a
You are forgetting about one more problem, the price. It was far too reasonable.
He has the air of a man wanting to show how brilliant he is by doing things the hard way instead of using what he has at his disposal.
Fair play if it works, but if it doesn't you look a fool. For example of Rooney fm doesn't do it this year and we have no cover, or if he spends months on the treatment table the responsibility for not having cover falls on one man.
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Things do take time but how long do we wait before we expect significant improvement on the pitch? If we were creating chances and not getting the rub of the green I'd be inclined to think things will get better soon. As it is, I personally don't see a cohesive side with a system that looks like it will work.
Football moves quickly - more so than ever before and he's now brough lt his own players in. This is largely his team.
I'm not suggesting he should be sacked ir anything of the sort, but I do think it's fair to ask questions and expect more in terms of performances and crucially an obvious direction of where we're going and where the improvement is going to come from. perhaps a quality addition going forward might help.
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Can our agent Man United hurry up and lodge some bids for Pogba so we can get that deal finalized please!
Like I said I highly doubt he thinks playing Memphis as an AM will make people think I'm brilliant, or anything. Things seem out of the ordinary for us but he's doing it purely because it makes the most sense for him, like most other managers. It's just that things that make sense to him can be controversial for others, but I doubt he cares about what they look to others.
You missed the part about chelsea showing the most interest. If that is the case then either we showed very little or chelsea were in for him all along. Take your head out of your own backside grumpy.
Maybe not.
Still hard for the fans to understand what appear to be deliberately left field decisions, even if they aren't. It doesn't inspire confidence when it appears things are not going well.
Yeah teams are just desperate to get guys like Fred
This and this again. Maybe guardiola praised him so he warms the bench without protest.
So is he saying Brazilians are overrated?
The one thing that brings me down about missing this transfer is that we opted out on a professional. Thats the description we keep getting is that hes a "model pro" unlike the likes of Di Maria / Tevez.
More professionals are what we need to add to this club, and people like Neymar are gambles since you dont know where they are going to be after a years time.
More professionals are what we need to add to this club, and people like Neymar are gambles since you dont know where they are going to be after a years time.
It's pretty clear from those quotes that he was never a proper target. Pedro was angling for a move away so no doubt his agent contacted us and from there we never made a proper approach like they had hoped. Chelsea did and that's why they got him.
As Van Gaal said, it was a simple transfer, if we wanted him we would have paid the money and signed him.
He played well at the weekend. Some of our players can learn a bit from what he was doing at the weekend. Pulling defenders wide and making intelligent runs in the middle beyond the striker. Also being dynamic with the ball, quick passing round players and running at the opposition. Was good to see.
He'll 100% be a success in my view, and hence the reason I wanted him here so much. But didnt happen and we move on, hopefully this allows someone else to come in, or one of our own to develop.
He'll 100% be a success in my view, and hence the reason I wanted him here so much. But didnt happen and we move on, hopefully this allows someone else to come in, or one of our own to develop.
What a rubbish quote from Guadriola. Overhyping his prodigee. If he was that good, surely Bayern would have bought him.
This. What would have been or can be better than a model professional who answers one our of needs in our current position?
Well, he will play better than Rooney. And that won't be saying much!
guardiola is an asshole
Terrible defending for Crystal Palace's first goal 
Good assist though...
Good assist though...http://www.espnfcasia.com/story/2594159/pedro-van-gaal-at-man-united-did-not-affect-chelsea-choice
Apparently he spoke to Valdes.
Apparently he spoke to Valdes.
But his desiccation was based on Chelsea wanting him more
United weren't interested in him anyway. We didn't bid or anything.
I wish we never signed Valdes.
Nobody else would touch him when we rehabilitated him and offered him a contract. What else did we have to do? Drop DDG for him?
Nobody else would touch him when we rehabilitated him and offered him a contract. What else did we have to do? Drop DDG for him?
Can't we just terminate his contract/pay him off? just call it a write off.
The guy seems like cancer around Carrington.
The guy seems like cancer around Carrington.
Looked pretty poor today IMO.
Indeed, possibility of several knickers being untwisted since his first display for Chelsea.
Oh it really doesn't matter how he performs, for the rest of the season Pedro will be considered by fans and pundits alike as the player that Utd needed most and missed out on. Personally I was never convinced he would make that big an impact as he's not a true top, top player and for that reason I would much rather give game time to the younger players(Memphis, januzaj, pereira).
Bullet dodged? Too early to say, but I think so.
needs to bulk up
Judging Pedro in a United top and what he would bring to United, is different to judging him in a Chelsea shirt. Our needs are different. We require different things. He looks to run in behind which obviously be of no benefit to United Best to judge over a period of time but Joses and perhaps Van Gaals style might not suit him. We won't know. I'd still have preferred him as our bench is dire and I do mean dire. A bench of Rafa, Nani, Pedro, Hernandez would do wonders for this team. Wonders. So I wouldn't be concerned what he's doing at Chelsea. It's never easy coming into a troubled environment and over a period of time, he will his fair share of points.
Best to judge over a period of time but Joses and perhaps Van Gaals style might not suit him. We won't know. I'd still have preferred him as our bench is dire and I do mean dire. A bench of Rafa, Nani, Pedro, Hernandez would do wonders for this team. Wonders. So I wouldn't be concerned what he's doing at Chelsea. It's never easy coming into a troubled environment and over a period of time, he will his fair share of points.Good point.
Anyway as for how he's been for Chelsea: I'm not convinced, even if he was running at either of our full backs I wouldn't be afraid one bit.