What you on about mate?
Per Simon Stone: Our net spent is more than other European club in the last three years
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Let me guess if it was Pochettino in charge we’d have won the quadruple by now right?
He is a top quality player, but if Ole doesn't want him or rate him, he's not the right player to buy.
If you back your manager, you give him what he wants. If you give him something else regardless of how good he is then that's not backing your manager, that's forcing a player onto him
Oh Lawd another agenda topic with both sides in proper formation.
This season is going to be fun
This season is going to be fun
ITT - Man Utd fans making excuses knowing their manager will still not be successful in the upcoming season.
This, it has nothing to do with us splurging cash at all times and much more to do with being awful at offloading players.
At this moment in time, we've got the most expensive defender in the world, joint most expensive RB in the league, the most expensive midfielder in the league and the most expensive winger in the league. 3/4 were signed under Ole.
It has a lot to do with the amount of money we've spent.
I’ve not seen their ilk for some time. They are as rare as the dodo but, beware, they are vicious when cornered.
VDB himself has said it was Ole that convinced him to come so saying he isn't an Ole signing doesn't make sense.
Nothing's an Ole signing up until it's successful. Cavani was a Woodward signing up until he started banging in goals, and then all of a sudden he was an Ole signing.
It looks worse than the reality because of how hopeless we are at negotiating contracts for fringe players and consequently moving them on.
Brandon Williams is prime example, should've been moved on for a decent fee last summer or this summer but was instead given a big new contract. He's paid far too much for what he's done in the game, and the same goes for others like Dalot, Andreas and (to a lesser extent) Lingard who should be sellable assets.
Brandon Williams is prime example, should've been moved on for a decent fee last summer or this summer but was instead given a big new contract. He's paid far too much for what he's done in the game, and the same goes for others like Dalot, Andreas and (to a lesser extent) Lingard who should be sellable assets.
Every player is an Ole signing, the good and the bad. It’s fools here who claim one or the other.
The vast majority of our signings have been good.
Our net spend probably won't be higher all summer. And nobody else has even started spending yet. Good story though.
It means very little in a world where certain other clubs fiddle their books, outright cheat and pay wages under the table.
No point comparing with other teams. Just do what we can within our means to be competitive and continue to be an honest club.
It’s just unfortunate that the manager has to have the pressure of “more net spend than anyone else”, when we know it’s just not the reality.
No point comparing with other teams. Just do what we can within our means to be competitive and continue to be an honest club.
It’s just unfortunate that the manager has to have the pressure of “more net spend than anyone else”, when we know it’s just not the reality.
I see nothing wrong there, Utd have to spend, since Pep has been at City he's spent 850m so its either spend or fall further behind.
Plus that doesn't include this summer, so he could spend close to 1 billion.
Plus that doesn't include this summer, so he could spend close to 1 billion.
I've never seen/heard that but if that's the case then I don't understand why Ole didn't use him last season.
To make something clear though, I'm not an Ole in or Ole out.
I think he deserves to have this season to succeed or fail. If he doesn't put trophies in the cabinet or a real title challenge then he needs to go at the end of the season.
No it isn't. Klopp didnt spend as much and won the PL and CL. Chelsea also won the CL.
Oh! So three years is now the arbitrary window of evaluating net spend! Whatever the length of time fits the narrative I guess.
If we are going to compare things then only the cost of the players on the team (including placing a market value on youth players) and the wage bill matter.
At least they’ve stopped including Di Maria in our net spend! That was held over is for about 5 years.
If we are going to compare things then only the cost of the players on the team (including placing a market value on youth players) and the wage bill matter.
At least they’ve stopped including Di Maria in our net spend! That was held over is for about 5 years.
Klopp spent a fortune to win the league and Chelsea spent around a quarter of a billion last year?
Klopp has spent big on Keita, Fabinho, Van Dijk, Alisson. He had a pretty good base to work off of and selling Coutinho offset a bunch of those signings.
The truth is we’ve finally had decent success with some of our big signings.
AWB could be better but he’s definitely improved us. Maguire has been a solid success. Bruno has been off the charts. Cavani was a great free transfer.
Even if Dan James and VDB have been a bit disappointing we are starting to land some solid buys. For a while it was like we broke every new signing.
AWB could be better but he’s definitely improved us. Maguire has been a solid success. Bruno has been off the charts. Cavani was a great free transfer.
Even if Dan James and VDB have been a bit disappointing we are starting to land some solid buys. For a while it was like we broke every new signing.
Klopp spent more assembling the title winning team than we've currently spent with Ole.
It's going to be a bloodbath.That cnut is the reason ole has had to spend so much.
I was going to say that. Ole has had the biggest spend of all our managers. He needs to deliver this season coming now.
So we finish 14 points off the top you will be happy? fecking hell your easily pleased
It wouldn’t be bad if it meant we actually bought the players we wanted and needed. But we usually end up with 3rd or 4th choices, that is what it wrong. This season so far seems to be different though.
Yes Ole said that himself. He said he has the final say.
We've still spent the money.
This.
Sell James, dalot, Tuanzebe, lingard pereira at market value and our net spend would be significantly less.
Are you sure 75m in 2017 is less than 80m in 2019?
this. We don’t have the likes of Bournemouth throwing £20 million at our U23s
That's a reach.
He's been backed, the problem with the past few summers was leaving all the business until deadline day essentially and not getting the right start to the season. We also had a lot of turnover required into what is now a very young team. We are also useless at selling players.
We still have gaps though, notably a midfield that is very meh which is going to remain an issue this season. We should be a lot closer to the title this season of course if we add Varane to Sancho, but you need luck as well to get over the line. We should absolutely compete for all the cups though, but you need luck sometimes to actually win it and it might not necessarily mean Ole failed if we don't win a trophy.
We still have gaps though, notably a midfield that is very meh which is going to remain an issue this season. We should be a lot closer to the title this season of course if we add Varane to Sancho, but you need luck as well to get over the line. We should absolutely compete for all the cups though, but you need luck sometimes to actually win it and it might not necessarily mean Ole failed if we don't win a trophy.
On top of that, our players or staff were fully paid.
Players/Staff took upto 70% pay cuts at some clubs like barcelona last year. So credit to our management as we also contributed a lot to NHS.
Players/Staff took upto 70% pay cuts at some clubs like barcelona last year. So credit to our management as we also contributed a lot to NHS.
I don't think the net spend is a great indicator of how well Ole has done to be honest. We've been a terribly badly run club for a while, so that is a much more important factor.
However, after two and a half years, this season is most definitely the time to make a judgement on Ole. He's done well so far, it's just whether he's hit his ceiling.
I'd say all this speculation linking us to proper players for a change has less to do with backing Ole and more to do with the Glazers being under pressure. I mean, when the game in the calendar gets postponed because of protests, it's hard to ignore. And it's an added bonus that certain big clubs aren't in a position to compete for players with favourable contractual situations.
However, after two and a half years, this season is most definitely the time to make a judgement on Ole. He's done well so far, it's just whether he's hit his ceiling.
I'd say all this speculation linking us to proper players for a change has less to do with backing Ole and more to do with the Glazers being under pressure. I mean, when the game in the calendar gets postponed because of protests, it's hard to ignore. And it's an added bonus that certain big clubs aren't in a position to compete for players with favourable contractual situations.
Same crap, different year. How about everyone tries a bit harder to be a grown up, rational football fan this time around?
The flip side to that coin. Despite not selling players for high fees United have still been the biggest spenders in Europe. Would we rather be a must sell to buy club and moan about that instead?
He's been backed, no doubt about it. Now he needs to deliver. Question is if we have another season like the last three, are we still content with Ole at the wheel?