PES 2013 was not a good game.
Gaming PES 2019 (PC, PS4, Xbox One, Android, iOS)
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They have to like it. What kind of question is that?!
On a more serious note, I wouldn't care (not that I really do) if you preferred FIFA 18, but given you consider both of them to have 'bad gameplay', I wonder if you've ever come across a footy game you thought had good gameplay.
Any reason? I didn't like it at first either tbqh but it grew on me. I didn't particularly like ML or online games though.
Not really. I liked FIFA games about 8-10 years ago, I think World Cup 2010 was the best they ever produced but then completely ruined that in FIFA 11. The best one after that was 14 on PS4 but they gradually made it worse after that too. Since 16 it has been unplayable.
PES6 was the best game of all previous generations.
What really spoiled FIFA and PES experience for me was getting into 2K about 4-5 years ago. I got a game that was realistic, fun to play, mimicked the real life basketball and had incredible presentation with just a few noticeable flaws. None of the football games come close to that.
Wasn't aware of that, but come to think of it, it's true, beat Barca 3-2 over two legs and then lost 3-0 to Newcastle.
I'm much the same, but now they've essentially fecked 2k by making the my career a story mode, and putting in an absurd amount of pay2win features.
Fifa 11 and Fifa 12 were good games after 2010.
I’m sure @Eddy_JukeZ would agree. It was really 14 when they moved to next gen that they started dumbing down the gameplay. Fifa 14 was a joke with everyone running down the wing and crossing it. I wouldn’t call that a good game.
For me the best Fifa games were 09 and 12.
11 was all right but worse than World Cup which was annoying.
14 was fine IMO. They started getting worse with 15.
Thankfully I don’t play MyCareer so it doesn’t bother me. I play almost exclusively MyLeague.
Pro Evo "Hipsters" are/were too playing the Japanese version Winning Eleven.
I agree with everything you just wrote. I think 2009 was the last one I played, too! I think I'll pick this one up because, for whatever reason, I've suddenly got into a PESsy mood.
I've recently been playing a patch on PES5 that has a load of classic teams which has been fun. I tried to play a PES6 patch called "History of Football" which has a load of classic teams but, unlike the PES5 one, has our 07-09 team but I can't get it to work. Has anyone here played either of them?
Personally it was the move to frostbite engine and the latest 2 FIFA games.
They've made the gameplay very accessible.
I liked 16 and 15 the most.
Forget 2K man. You're always going on about that. I just can't see how PES 6 is objectively better than PES 2018. Great for its time, sure.
It was just more fun to play. Maybe had something to do with the times but still, it was pure joy.
PES 2019 demo is out today.
Seems bit early doesn’t it?
Does it? New season of football is about to start, perfect timing. The game is set to release before the end of the month as well.
I'm prob buying FIFA as per but I'll download this and give it a whirl.
I am always excited about PES until I try the demo and realise that they didn't fix any of the issues like shooting and it generally looks like it's been stuck in the past for quite a few years now. Gonna try the demo ofc, any interesting updates/new features?
Konami are run by fecking idiots. What the hell are we suppose to gauge in 5min matches 
? 5mins halves would have been better. This company doesn't help itself by stupid decisions like that
? 5mins halves would have been better. This company doesn't help itself by stupid decisions like thatIt’s awful.
Nowhere near as good as fifa,
Nowhere near as good as fifa,
The game plays great, seems a touch more sim than last year and the ball physics feel really good too. but this 5 min games crap is my main criticism of FIFA demos over the years not enough time to settle in to a match especially with the more realistic pace for Pro evo. I also hope those crowd noises/atmosphere are just placeholders till the finished game cos they're rubbish. Other than that though I'm loving it.
I like it
But it seems really hard to get shots off from any distance
But it seems really hard to get shots off from any distance
Tried a couple of games yesterday and I'm not sure about it. Something feels off compared to PES 2018, which was fantastic. But yeah it's hard to judge by playing such short matches, once you get going the game is already over.
Love the weight to it.
One thing that slightly mitigates the shitness of the 5 min games is that it's very quick to get a rematch going, I've started having a 'best out of 3' before changing opponents.
How does it mitigate them ? I don't get it. 5mins matches is them hurting themselves because it gives you no time to settle in and this is how you lose interest. It forces you yo play like a maniac when the game screams for slow build-ups.
In a way I do always feel like something about PES looks more realistic - despite the raves about FIFA s gfx. I prefer Konami s more natural looking player models and the other thing is probably the lighting and colors looking more natural to me. FIFA is too saturated and polished looking in a way.
I did say only slightly though, you can just hit rematch and get a game going right away after a game, there's just not as much of a break in between games so you can pretend it just halftime, don't get me wrong its still crap and ruins the flow of a game & a classic own goal from Konami but its the only thing I can think of that makes it less jarring.
I get you. I suppose you went to look for any possible positive. I don't understand the logic behind a decision like that, unless it reduces the chances of gamers to notice major flaws...
Have to tried going into the option and changing the game time ? I haven't play the demo yet but past demos have had the option of changing the game time .
Yeah, I don't know why they done it either as the last two demos had the option to change the game time from 5 mins to 10+. I usually stop playing the old game once the demo comes out but I'm not sure with this one and its shit cos its got nothing to do with how the game plays which is great.
That's one of the first things I did but it's locked to 5 mins
That's one of the first things I did but it's locked to 5 mins
I was at a youth cup in Denmark a few weeks ago and Konami had a tent set up with a bunch of screens and consoles for people to play on. I didn’t like PES’ leap to next gen after PES6, have stuck with FIFA since, but got to quite like it this time around. May very well give it a go.
PES2018 really grew on me. Once you start playing with different teams in different situations you really appreciate how well the game plays. The Master League still wasn't right at all which was the main factor against it. Gameplay wise it's not perfect but is the best football game on the current gen for me. There's so much variation every game is different, and every team/set of players feels different.
Compared to FIFA and past PES games where you're basically just playing the same match over and over. The World Cup mode on FIFA was good but it was still very samey with the odd bit of randomness thrown in.
Not sure how I'll like PES without the CL licence. It shouldn't make too much difference but it was kind of the saving grace when you were playing through a season or Master League, as the way the league and cup fixtures were scheduled and structured made very little sense, so the CL is what bought the sense of realism to it. They're never going to catch FIFA with the online modes either so they really need to have focused on sorting that out.
PES still looks too robotic, especially when players are turning, but they do have the physics right, where the ball and player are always separate.
Last year still had the usual problem where if you combined the best features of both you'd have an excellent game, but both on their own had baffling flaws which never seem to be looked at. So expecting similar this year.
Compared to FIFA and past PES games where you're basically just playing the same match over and over. The World Cup mode on FIFA was good but it was still very samey with the odd bit of randomness thrown in.
Not sure how I'll like PES without the CL licence. It shouldn't make too much difference but it was kind of the saving grace when you were playing through a season or Master League, as the way the league and cup fixtures were scheduled and structured made very little sense, so the CL is what bought the sense of realism to it. They're never going to catch FIFA with the online modes either so they really need to have focused on sorting that out.
I don't think FIFA looks realistic at all. Even when I've found it the better game of the two. Everything happens way too fast to look realistic and there just isn't enough detail...from the actual graphics to the individuality of what is happening. It all just looks generic. Also when you have players doing skills and flicks it looks utterly ridiculous. It's unrealistic enough when Ronaldo rainbow flicks the ball over someone's head, then 360's around 3 consecutive defenders whilst in fast forward, let alone when he does it with the ball seemingly glued generically to his body the whole time.
PES still looks too robotic, especially when players are turning, but they do have the physics right, where the ball and player are always separate.
Last year still had the usual problem where if you combined the best features of both you'd have an excellent game, but both on their own had baffling flaws which never seem to be looked at. So expecting similar this year.
Ok so a nice surprise is that online games are set to at least 5 mins per half, I played my first online game when I got home from work and it seemed way longer that the games against the cpu, so like the saddo that I am I timed the next one took just under 15 mins and I wasn't watching replays or anything like that. @Sweet Square @kouroux
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Is it only me or does anyone find the ball physics to be a little 'floaty'? It's a weird motion where the shot sort of floats like a guided missile but at 0.9 speed. The passing is still like a puck on an ice rink too.
Good to know. Will test it later. Cheers
2016-2018 were exactly like this so if they've not rectified it I'm not buying it.