United's stronger defence??
PL table prediction thread 2022/23
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have to concur
These needy Chelsea fans desperate for some approval.
Cute little fellas!
Cute little fellas!
1. City
2. Liverpool
3. Chelsea
4. United
5. I don't care
6. I don't care
2. Liverpool
3. Chelsea
4. United
5. I don't care
6. I don't care
I picked you second but I think you'll be about as good as last year, but probably with fewer injuries. Chelsea were better than their results last year IMO.
Koulibaly and Rudiger is basically a wash. Kounde should be an upgrade over Christensen in the long run but in the short term is basically a wash once you factor in a league and system adjustment period.
Sterling is definitely an upgrade, but not the truly prolific scorer that Chelsea really needed.
I think we'll see further age-related regression from players like Kante, Jorginho, and Silva.
In sum, you'll be about as good as last year with better luck, which should have you fighting with Liverpool for second but still not truly threatening City (unless they have a disaster season themselves).
City
Chelsea
Scouse
Spurs
Arsenal
United
Chelsea
Scouse
Spurs
Arsenal
United
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@Donaldo didn’t mean to quote you in that comment. My apologies.
1. City
2. Liverpool
3. United
4. Chelsea
5. Spurs
6. Arsenal
7. Newcastle
8. West Ham
9. Palace
10. Leicester
11. Wolves
12. Villa
13. Brighton
14. Southampton
15. Everton
16. Brentford
17. Leeds
18. Forest
19. Fulham
20. Bournemouth
Edit: Now that Lingard's signed for Forest, I'm afraid they're for the drop so reversing 17 & 18
2. Liverpool
3. United
4. Chelsea
5. Spurs
6. Arsenal
7. Newcastle
8. West Ham
9. Palace
10. Leicester
11. Wolves
12. Villa
13. Brighton
14. Southampton
15. Everton
16. Brentford
17. Leeds
18. Forest
19. Fulham
20. Bournemouth
Edit: Now that Lingard's signed for Forest, I'm afraid they're for the drop so reversing 17 & 18
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United
City
Tottenham
Arsenal
Liverpool
Chelsea
Villa
Newcastle
Brighton
West Ham
City is the obvious favourite, but I always back United.
Chelsea I just don't rate at all.
Liverpool will miss Mane.
Arsenal and Tottenham have a good window so far, I expect them to improve this season.
City
Tottenham
Arsenal
Liverpool
Chelsea
Villa
Newcastle
Brighton
West Ham
City is the obvious favourite, but I always back United.
Chelsea I just don't rate at all.
Liverpool will miss Mane.
Arsenal and Tottenham have a good window so far, I expect them to improve this season.
From what i can gather he was asking a perfectly simple question (that if approached properly would have triggered healthy debate) to which you put words his mouth with this strange statement that apparently he wants everyone to say we're the best.
all possible except Stevies Villa finishing top half
City
Pool
Chelsea
Spuds
United
Arsenal
As of right now. No one is touching the top two unless they feck up themselves.
Spurs have an improved squad but not sure their first eleven has improved significantly on what they already had.
Same as Chelsea, no real change but hopefully more consistency.
United have a new manager but have my reservations one person can turn around that shit show in single season.
Arsenal are, Arsenal. They won’t be changing any time soon. Still too flaky to challenge.
Pool
Chelsea
Spuds
United
Arsenal
As of right now. No one is touching the top two unless they feck up themselves.
Spurs have an improved squad but not sure their first eleven has improved significantly on what they already had.
Same as Chelsea, no real change but hopefully more consistency.
United have a new manager but have my reservations one person can turn around that shit show in single season.
Arsenal are, Arsenal. They won’t be changing any time soon. Still too flaky to challenge.
If they are as good as they were last season they'll be miles behind Liverpool (who finished behind City by a point)
@TheReligion has an almost unhealthy, obsessive hatred of Chelsea. Literally any mention of Chelsea and he’s in the thread downplaying or shitting on whatever it is.
1. City
2. Liverpool
3. Spurs
4. Chelsea
5. United
6. Arsenal
7. Villa
8. West Ham
9. Leicester
10. Newcastle
11. Wolves
12. Palace
13. Brighton
14. Everton
15. Leeds
16. Brentford
17. Southampton
18. Forest
19. Fulham
20. Bournemouth
2. Liverpool
3. Spurs
4. Chelsea
5. United
6. Arsenal
7. Villa
8. West Ham
9. Leicester
10. Newcastle
11. Wolves
12. Palace
13. Brighton
14. Everton
15. Leeds
16. Brentford
17. Southampton
18. Forest
19. Fulham
20. Bournemouth
Move over Will Fish. I’ve caught myself a pair of whoppers!
His bitterness over Koulibaly signing was a bit odd but appears harmless enough.
My tuppence then as I didn't add reasons:
City have lost some good players up front and maybe Silva soon too. Donkey Haaland may feck up their fluid play. 3rd PL in a row is a tall ask.
But Liverpool also have Donkey Nunez that may need a season to settle. We're picking up our usual injuries which for some reason we avoided last season (and breathe/inhale). City will finish first.
Chelsea still haven't found a goalscorer. They have Sterling instead, a very good buy. Tuchel has had a full season to settle in. Won't be enough to finish above 85 points but comfortable 3rd.
Spurs have Kuselevski, Son and Kane plus Conte. That's enough for an easy 4th place.
Arsenal are a dark horse mainly because I've not noticed them for a few years (sorry Arse fans). But Lego Pep does finally seem to have them playing in his vision. One to watch.
Man Utd, though I have them in 5th it's mainly to keep from being banned. Any team that failed to replace AWB, Maguire, Lindelof, Fred and McT plus the return of IAmKing7 is going to struggle massively regardless of new manager bounce/tactics. But let's go with 5th while we're all happy.
City have lost some good players up front and maybe Silva soon too. Donkey Haaland may feck up their fluid play. 3rd PL in a row is a tall ask.
But Liverpool also have Donkey Nunez that may need a season to settle. We're picking up our usual injuries which for some reason we avoided last season (and breathe/inhale). City will finish first.
Chelsea still haven't found a goalscorer. They have Sterling instead, a very good buy. Tuchel has had a full season to settle in. Won't be enough to finish above 85 points but comfortable 3rd.
Spurs have Kuselevski, Son and Kane plus Conte. That's enough for an easy 4th place.
Arsenal are a dark horse mainly because I've not noticed them for a few years (sorry Arse fans). But Lego Pep does finally seem to have them playing in his vision. One to watch.
Man Utd, though I have them in 5th it's mainly to keep from being banned. Any team that failed to replace AWB, Maguire, Lindelof, Fred and McT plus the return of IAmKing7 is going to struggle massively regardless of new manager bounce/tactics. But let's go with 5th while we're all happy.
This is the year the age/depth of the Liverpool squad catches up with them
1. City
2. Man Utd
3. Chelsea
4. Spurs
5. Liverpool
6. Arsenal
7. Newcastle
1. City
2. Man Utd
3. Chelsea
4. Spurs
5. Liverpool
6. Arsenal
7. Newcastle
Would say either 6th or 5th.
I just want to see an actual identity in our play, and we have seen that so far in pre-season
I think we have the poorest squad out of the Top 6, so Ten Hag will have to work his magic on the training pitch, and hopefully we can do better than many expect.
I just want to see an actual identity in our play, and we have seen that so far in pre-season
I think we have the poorest squad out of the Top 6, so Ten Hag will have to work his magic on the training pitch, and hopefully we can do better than many expect.
It's genuinely hard to put together the top six right now. Spurs, Arsenal and United all look like they'll be better than last season whereas City, Chelsea and Liverpool have gone through at least one big change to their team/squad. I don't think City are going to run away with it. I'm going to be brave and go for:
1. Liverpool
2. City
3. Spurs
4. United
5. Chelsea
6. Arsenal
7. West Ham
8. Newcastle
9. Leicester
10. Palace
11. Wolves
12. Villa
13. Brighton
14. Everton
15. Leeds
16. Forest
17. Fulham
18. Brentford
19. Southampton
20. Bournemouth
I'm probably completely wrong. I'm not all that convinced that we can win the league, United will finish in the top four or that Chelsea will finish that low. Arsenal might be higher than that as well. They probably won't lose their opening three games this time around.
I think Southampton and Brentford (second season syndrome) are in trouble.
1. Liverpool
2. City
3. Spurs
4. United
5. Chelsea
6. Arsenal
7. West Ham
8. Newcastle
9. Leicester
10. Palace
11. Wolves
12. Villa
13. Brighton
14. Everton
15. Leeds
16. Forest
17. Fulham
18. Brentford
19. Southampton
20. Bournemouth
I'm probably completely wrong. I'm not all that convinced that we can win the league, United will finish in the top four or that Chelsea will finish that low. Arsenal might be higher than that as well. They probably won't lose their opening three games this time around.
I think Southampton and Brentford (second season syndrome) are in trouble.
Donkey Darwin or Darwin the Donkey probably works better...wait what am I doing?!
1) city - comfortably. They improved compared to last season. Haaland is going to be good.
2) liverpool - losing Mane could be a problem if Darwin doesn't hit the ground running. Worse than last season, but they'll still finish second.
3) Tottenham - Conte managed 2ppg since joining Spurs. Thats enough for the third place. I think he'll improve slightly on that with all the signings.
4) Chelsea - its less "pro Chelsea" and more that I doubt the alternatives. They have lost a few players, that could be hard to replace. Sterling and Koulibali are good players, but I think they need to shake things up. Overall Tuchel hit the ground running, but afterwards there wasn't a lot of progress. A lot is going to depend on the rest of the transfer window and how they line up (back 5 vs back4). If things go well, they could finish second, if things go bad, they might struggle to make top4. Imo the first 3-4 games will tell us a lot about their season.
5) Arsenal - I am not convinced by them and their signings, but they have spend enough to qualify for the Euroleague.
6) United - depending on the rest of the transfer window. Without additional players, this season could be painful. EtH is great and preseason is nice, but I don't trust this group of players at all.
7) Newcastle - urgs
2) liverpool - losing Mane could be a problem if Darwin doesn't hit the ground running. Worse than last season, but they'll still finish second.
3) Tottenham - Conte managed 2ppg since joining Spurs. Thats enough for the third place. I think he'll improve slightly on that with all the signings.
4) Chelsea - its less "pro Chelsea" and more that I doubt the alternatives. They have lost a few players, that could be hard to replace. Sterling and Koulibali are good players, but I think they need to shake things up. Overall Tuchel hit the ground running, but afterwards there wasn't a lot of progress. A lot is going to depend on the rest of the transfer window and how they line up (back 5 vs back4). If things go well, they could finish second, if things go bad, they might struggle to make top4. Imo the first 3-4 games will tell us a lot about their season.
5) Arsenal - I am not convinced by them and their signings, but they have spend enough to qualify for the Euroleague.
6) United - depending on the rest of the transfer window. Without additional players, this season could be painful. EtH is great and preseason is nice, but I don't trust this group of players at all.
7) Newcastle - urgs
I feel you and City will have teething problems trying to adapt your number 9s but City will win out purely because Haaland is likely to score the more goals to make up for what he takes out systematically. However if Klopp goes down his previous route of bleeding the new guy in slowly and sticking to a fluid front three in the short term then that could swing things in your favour.My tuppence then as I didn't add reasons:
City have lost some good players up front and maybe Silva soon too. Donkey Haaland may feck up their fluid play. 3rd PL in a row is a tall ask.
But Liverpool also have Donkey Nunez that may need a season to settle. We're picking up our usual injuries which for some reason we avoided last season (and breathe/inhale). City will finish first.
Chelsea still haven't found a goalscorer. They have Sterling instead, a very good buy. Tuchel has had a full season to settle in. Won't be enough to finish above 85 points but comfortable 3rd.
Spurs have Kuselevski, Son and Kane plus Conte. That's enough for an easy 4th place.
Arsenal are a dark horse mainly because I've not noticed them for a few years (sorry Arse fans). But Lego Pep does finally seem to have them playing in his vision. One to watch.
Man Utd, though I have them in 5th it's mainly to keep from being banned. Any team that failed to replace AWB, Maguire, Lindelof, Fred and McT plus the return of IAmKing7 is going to struggle massively regardless of new manager bounce/tactics. But let's go with 5th while we're all happy.
With a good season injury wise I feel we could push both of you but I feel it's a bit too soon over 38 games even with our good window.
As you've alluded too, Spurs and Arsenal will be separated by their manager.
United I find pretty curious. I was wary when Ten Hag was appointed purely because I thought not even those owners would be silly enough to appoint a specialist manager and not back him with the tools for the job, but it's looking like that is exactly what is going to happen.
I think a lot of it comes back to people's views on Tuchel. I don't follow it closely, but it seemed to me he kind of lost the dressing room at PSG after a couple of seasons. Think the same thing could happen at Chelsea this season. If it does, with an ambitious new owner, Tuchel could be out of a job by the World Cup break and Chelsea's season flushed.
His problems was with the board. The squad absolutely loved him, even Mbappe and Neymar.
I think you've probably nailed the top 6. I fancy Newcastle to finish 7th, though. So:
1. City
2. Liverpool
3. Chelsea
4. Spurs
5. Utd
6. Arsenal
7. Newcastle
Tuchel is closer to the players than any manager I’ve seen since Mourinho in his first stint. There isn’t even a slight hint of dressing room issues. I think we would have to have an implosion of epic proportions for Tuchel’s job to be in danger. Like, finishing 10th sort of proportions. The new owner has basically handed him the keys to the kingdom this summer.
And to be clear, I think I recall Tuchel’s downfall at PSG being due to clashing heads with the hierarchy there rather than losing the dressing room or upsetting the players.
PL table prediction thread = OP predicts only 7 teams. Ea logic. Guess I’ll follow suit
1. City
2. Chelsea
3. Tottenham
4. Liverpool
5. Manchester United
6. Arsenal
7. Leicester City
I can see a Sterling POTY type season, I really rate this transfer. City are just too boring and even if robot man 1 (Haaland) spends half the season on the treatment table, robot man 2 (De Bruyne) will step up. They’ll flop in the CL again though, woo.
1. City
2. Chelsea
3. Tottenham
4. Liverpool
5. Manchester United
6. Arsenal
7. Leicester City
I can see a Sterling POTY type season, I really rate this transfer. City are just too boring and even if robot man 1 (Haaland) spends half the season on the treatment table, robot man 2 (De Bruyne) will step up. They’ll flop in the CL again though, woo.
Due to the mid season break and the way fixtures will occur I wouldn’t be surprised to see someone you don’t expect to win the title or be relegated. Not quite as dramatic as the Leicester title win but similar type of season.
Arteta should have no pressure given the prediction here. Just like last season everyone predict a 6th placed finish.
Yeah this could happen. Spurs might be the one to have a go at the title.
If you take us as an example - some of what will be our starters (Sancho, Martial etc) are at this moment in time pretty unlikely to make their WC teams. Three weeks of tactical training with the mastermind that is Ten Hagrid whilst the rest of the top 6 has their attackers swanning off to Dubai for the winter — is the title already in the bag?
Where you think a side will finish (mostly down to the coach) = / = where a side should actually be finishing (owing to the resources spent etc)
Where should Arsenal be finishing based on the talent and quality of the squad?
Top 6 based on squads is pretty obvious:
City
Liverpool
Chelsea
Spurs
Arsenal/Utd
I can't see anyone breaking in. If anything Utd/Arsenal (the weakest two) should be slightly stronger than last year, so West Ham/Newcastle/Leicester etc wont really trouble the big 6 IMO.
7th-10th could be anyone. I quite fancy Palace for another decent season and to break the top half ahead of someone like Brighton. West Ham to be a let down.
City
Liverpool
Chelsea
Spurs
Arsenal/Utd
I can't see anyone breaking in. If anything Utd/Arsenal (the weakest two) should be slightly stronger than last year, so West Ham/Newcastle/Leicester etc wont really trouble the big 6 IMO.
7th-10th could be anyone. I quite fancy Palace for another decent season and to break the top half ahead of someone like Brighton. West Ham to be a let down.
My prediction is the team with less players go all the way in the world cup has advantage.
4th-6th imo. Maybe 3rd but I think Spurs are looking a fair bit stronger than you.
Get in, Utd are gonna piss the league with the rate our players are being dropped from the England squad.
I’d say 4th, personally.