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Who are these quality players that were hidden on that list?
They don't have more quality either. They're very well coached and that's the big difference.
The poster posted his list as proof that City have a small squad. They don't. They have a similar sized squad as everyone else. Except that other teams have their youth included in his list, while he omits them from the City list, in order to make the City squad look small.
 

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The OP omitted the youth from City's list whilst including the youth in the other lists. No wonder the City list looks smaller.
The only youth player missing from the city list is Cole Palmer and possibly James McAtee who between them have 124 mins of PL action this season
 

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Nobody here has said anything about Pep being the best CL coach, but what's this whole "best CL coach" you keep trying to use? Either you're a good/great coach or you aren't. No one in their right mind thinks Ancelotti is a better coach than Pep.

Like i said, they lost to Monaco on goal aggregate. I don't know what you mean by they got bailed out by the referee in the first leg.

They lost to Lyon in Portugal, but how can you blame Pep for Sterling's miss in that game?

The weird circumstances was the defeat against Spurs (which they also lost due to the away goal rule), with the controversial Llorente goal and the last City goal that was disallowed.
They lost the game 3-1. A beauty from KDB gave them some hope. They lost it 3-1 to the 7 th team in France. The same Lyon that had already beaten them the year prior in group stage. Both times with goals from Burnly player Max Cornet. But maybe you beleive that if Pep had peak Messi instead of Sterling, the fight would have been fairer to him.


Aguero also missed a penalty in the first leg of the spurs tie
Aguero missed a Penalty versus PSG in 2016 too, it didn't prevent Pellegrini from making it to the semifinals.





This was posted on reddit a few days ago. This is our 'unbelievable' strength in depth:

You can check out squads from transfermarkt. We only have 17 first team players and they include Zack Steffen, Scott Carson and Zinchenko.

Tonight you had first team quality players like Bruno Fernandes, Rashford, Fred, Telles on the bench. The other day vs Newcastle, you brought on Cavani and 75m Sancho from the bench, we don't have a striker.
The 17 do not include the keepers. This reddit post is so blatantly biased. City's injured players are not included, not even the Brazilian Kayky, for whom you paid 10 Million, while the other clubs have exhaustive lists.

I could add Palmer, Lavia and the other youngsters who played the League Cup games and make it look like you have 30 players.
 
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They lost the game 3-1. A beauty from KDB gave them some hope. They lost it 3-1 to the 7 th team in France. The same Lyon that had already beaten them the year prior in group stage. Both times with goals from Burnly player Max Cornet. But maybe you beleive that if Pep had peak Messi instead of Sterling, the fight would have been fairer to him.



Aguero missed a Penalty versus PSG in 2016 too, it didn't prevent Pellegrini from making it to the semifinals.






The 17 do not include the keepers. This reddit post is so blatantly biased. City's injured players are not included, not even the Brazilian Kayky, for whom you paid 10 Million, while the other clubs have exhaustive lists.

I could add Palmer, Lavia and the other youngsters who played the League Cup games and make it look like you have 30 players.
You forgot to add that Sterling missed that occasion when the score was 2-1 though...

Lavia hasn't played any league game for City if i'm not mistaken. And if you add him and some other City youth players who only played league cup games, then you'll also have to do the same for United, Liverpool and Chelsea.
 

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PL title is already over in January :lol:

This is a farmers league for City.
 

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These Cnuts are capable of doing what we did in the 90s. If they get HAALAND in the summer we’re fcuked.
They'll soon catch up with us in titles, can't see us winning even one over the next decade sadly. Maybe when Pep leaves it might slightly slow them down but that squad is frightening regardless.
 

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They'll soon catch up with us in titles, can't see us winning even one over the next decade sadly. Maybe when Pep leaves it might slightly slow them down but that squad is frightening regardless.
Not maybe. When Pep leaves, they'll come down to earth again, they had easily as frightening squads before and didn't dominate in that way. Player for player, this squad can easily look underwhelming when bathed in a colder light.They will need to get it very right with the next managerial appointment and nothing about that is a given.
 

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They only have to be par to win the league. All other teams need to be extraordinary to win.
 

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To be fair, it was probably too much of a jump for Chelsea to go straight to competing for the title. Not sure whether the formation they play is suited to winning a league title, but it seems to work well in cups.

Liverpool are due to a lack of investment. They just don't spend enough to have the depth to compete. Their first team is good enough, but they have no real depth.
 

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Who's still pretending the middle east don't own British football now? 4 titles in 5 years another season dead in January. Fake revenue figures rubbed in the world's face. Everybody feigning outrage about Qatar while an equally odious regime buy title after title
 

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If Liverpool win their games in hand, it will just be 8 points. Not that difficult to overcome as there will be more than 4 months of football and City will be due a bad run. If it's between City and Liverpool, i would choose City. Hopefully they win. But it's not over as many of you seem to say.
 

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Title race over by January, as competitive as Bundesliga.

Pep making the Premier League look like a farmers league.
 

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One horse race last season seems like a one horse race this season, surely indicates the PL is nothing more than an SPL with more money?:D
Crap management of Manchester United is a big reason for this. We don't spend much less than them.
 

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They'll soon catch up with us in titles, can't see us winning even one over the next decade sadly. Maybe when Pep leaves it might slightly slow them down but that squad is frightening regardless.
We need oil barons to take us over, we’ll catch the Cnuts then.
 

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Who's still pretending the middle east don't own British football now? 4 titles in 5 years another season dead in January. Fake revenue figures rubbed in the world's face. Everybody feigning outrage about Qatar while an equally odious regime buy title after title
Not just British football, but french too. Only a matter of time before the gulf owned clubs start dominating the CL.
 

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If Liverpool win their games in hand, it will just be 8 points. Not that difficult to overcome as there will be more than 4 months of football and City will be due a bad run. If it's between City and Liverpool, i would choose City. Hopefully they win. But it's not over as many of you seem to say.
Doesn’t matter if they win the two games in hand, city different gravy now. Liverpool don’t have the squad debt to take them on. The only way they could beat them is their best 11 stayed fit and that’s a tall order now.
 

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Not just British football, but french too. Only a matter of time before the gulf owned clubs start dominating the CL.
Dominating CL is a different beast, it's a cup competition.
Neither PSG and City will dominate CL, they might win a Champions League soon, but not dominate the competition the way they dominate their leagues.

They have to compete with Bayern,Real Madrid,Chelsea,Liverpool,etc...and City got outplayed and eliminated by Lyon in the UCL ffs.
The surprise factor is definitely thing in up competitions.

Not even Pep's Barca could dominate CL for a very long time, neither will PSG and City which have less quality in comparison to Pep's Barca.
 

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I dont think even Fegie dominated the league like Pep is doing now, Fergie won more consecutive titles but Pep is wrapping it up by January with no room for error with this kind of consistency.
 

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I dont think even Fegie dominated the league like Pep is doing now, Fergie won more consecutive titles but Pep is wrapping it up by January with no room for error with this kind of consistency.
Fergie won 13 of 21 Premier League titles, with two back to backs and two three in a rows.
 

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I dont think even Fegie dominated the league like Pep is doing now, Fergie won more consecutive titles but Pep is wrapping it up by January with no room for error with this kind of consistency.
Pep will be gone before City need any sort of rebuild. And they have so much money and a crazy academy that rebuilds are probably rare for them anyway cause they feck players out of the club once they’ve passed their peak. Fergie built multiple great squads over a much longer period including one that won 4 titles in 5 years and reached 3 CL finals. Pep has yet to reach that level.
 

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I dont think even Fegie dominated the league like Pep is doing now, Fergie won more consecutive titles but Pep is wrapping it up by January with no room for error with this kind of consistency.
Sir Alex Ferguson managed Manchester United for 21 total seasons in the Premier League. He won the title 13 times. In 4 of the 8 times he didn't win it, he lost by 1 point or goal difference.
 

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Well, there are not that many managers who can eventually replace Pep at some point. Probably just ten Haag, Nagelsmann, Luis Enrique and Arteta. The rest would have to rebuild their squad while City like to make less changes. Even this summer it's gonna be a new no. 9, back-up DM and back-up RB (possibly Couto or Porro back from loan) only.
 

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Sir Alex Ferguson managed Manchester United for 21 total seasons in the Premier League. He won the title 13 times. In 4 of the 8 times he didn't win it, he lost by 1 point or goal difference.
Insane really.
 

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Playing with a 12+ points gap is hardly the most stressful circumstances to perform under, but credit to them they make it look easy.
 

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It's looking good for City of course but there is a long way to go yet. I really hope we don't turn into one of those 1 team leagues. Come on Pep, drop a few points.
 

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Sir Alex Ferguson managed Manchester United for 21 total seasons in the Premier League. He won the title 13 times. In 4 of the 8 times he didn't win it, he lost by 1 point or goal difference.
Sir Alex Ferguson is the greatest manager of all time of any club in any sport. And yes, I am fully aware of John Wooden.
 

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As Giorno rightly pointed out, despite City's dominance the PL as a whole is still very competitive. Liverpool & Chelsea have just as much chance of winning the CL as City do.

City are very strong, they easily knocked out PSG, Dortmund etc. last year and they beat PSG again this year.

The comparisons to Bundesliga is just ridiculous. They only have Bayern and if Bayern were in the PL they would have to compete for the same pool of players as the rest of the top 6. They wouldn't be able to monopolize an entire market like they do in Germany.

In reality they would be forced to spend bucket loads of cash trying to keep up in the PL, their players would be ran into the ground in the winter fixtures and we know the Bayern hierarchy don't like spending huge amount of money, so in all likelihood they would seriously struggle.

Even if they spent a lot, there's no guarantee they would be able to compete for the title. We spent hundreds of millions and we're still trying to secure top 4. Man Utd have also spent an eye-watering amount of money and they're not any closer to challenging for the title.

To win the PL, teams need huge resources, plus strength in depth, plus a great manager to bring it all together. City have all that right now which is why they're so strong.
 

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As Giorno rightly pointed out, despite City's dominance the PL as a whole is still very competitive. Liverpool & Chelsea have just as much chance of winning the CL as City do.

City are very strong, they easily knocked out PSG, Dortmund etc. last year and they beat PSG again this year.

The comparisons to Bundesliga is just ridiculous. They only have Bayern and if Bayern were in the PL they would have to compete for the same pool of players as the rest of the top 6. They wouldn't be able to monopolize an entire market like they do in Germany.

In reality they would be forced to spend bucket loads of cash trying to keep up in the PL, their players would be ran into the ground in the winter fixtures and we know the Bayern hierarchy don't like spending huge amount of money, so in all likelihood they would seriously struggle.

Even if they spent a lot, there's no guarantee they would be able to compete for the title. We spent hundreds of millions and we're still trying to secure top 4. Man Utd have also spent an eye-watering amount of money and they're not any closer to challenging for the title.

To win the PL, teams need huge resources, plus strength in depth, plus a great manager to bring it all together. City have all that right now which is why they're so strong.
That's just puzzlingly counter-factual :confused:

What does the word "chance" mean to you?