621 hours with 421 spent on NBA 2K21 and 70 on NBA 2K22... I need to add more diversity to my library.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
It wont be long term, they are talking about current CoD imo...
Doesn't work for me
For me perosnally I couldn't care less. I like some Blizzard games (Hearthstone and Overwatch) but the Activision catalogue does nothing for me really.
Saying that they're hugely popular among casual gamers. MS have received quite a bit of backlash based on this acquisition and will want to have positive PR to attract more users.
I can see the big titles like COD remaining available everywhere. For this gen at least. I think the occasional time Activision publish something out of their normal wheelhouse it'll be Xbox/Gamepass exclusive.
I like your optimism..... most would be okay with timed exclusivity, but I have a feeling this is about full exclusivity going forward. Let's see... I'm not that fussed either tbf.
Are they any good? Was looking at the lastest one but there's a lot of awful user reviews online.
@VeevaVee will be upset.
I’m glad. If only Sony were as consumer friendly. But we’ll see what happens when those agreements come to an end.
I reckon they keep COD multiplatform. Surely the exclusivity argument is far more relevant for single player games where they can't make extra money from microtransactions? Unless Microsoft really does just want to monopolise Sony out of the market, I suspect they will take the duel income from COD across consoles and then migrate games such as Overwatch 2 into exclusives.
Yeah it's nothing we didn't know or that wasn't obvious. Like Bethesda, deals that in place they honour (and who knows how far ahead Activision and Sony had a deal in place.. could be a good few years yet) and similar to ESO or Fallout 76, Warzone will stay on Playstation.
I do think there's a chance that multiplayer could stay on Playstation long term too. I wouldn't be as certain as others that it won't. Warzone and the multiplayer including battle pass are integrated so tightly. For Microsoft, exclusive campaigns (on gamepass), free multiplayer (on gamepass) and potentially guaranteed battle pass and exclusive tiers for GPU subscribers may well be enough of a pull without removing it from Playstation completely. Long term the marketing deal isn't in place for Sony and swings back with Xbox positioned as the best place to play COD. On PS they may even login with a single sign-on that is connected to gamepass/xbox account rather than battle net.
It also gives Microsoft a bit more power when it comes to third-party deals that Sony are making. We saw with Resident Evil Village? that Sony were putting clauses around not being on Gamepass for a period of time. 2nd party deals and timed exclusivity won't go away as Xbox do it too, but I do think Xbox might use it as a chip on some of that stuff.
I'd still lean to exclusivity in 2 or 3 years but there's a chance.
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I like them a lot… 2k21 was ruined by the fact they completely botched pick and roll defense and you could just get to the basket with ease. They fixed that in 2k22 but managed to ruin CPU offense but that can be fixed quite easily with sliders. I still think it’s one of the best sports games.
User scores are often dictated by online and MyCareer, none of which I’m really interested in. I only play MyNBA offline seasons.
I do think long term MS hope to choke Sony out of the console space and acquire every big dev.
But as they found with their attempts at introducing DRM on the Xbox One, one bad move can have long lasting ramifications on their image and PR.
I think they'll play nice this gen as they slowly start increasing the exclusivity on their platforms.
MS plan long-term has always been to get GP on as many platforms as possible.
If MS continue to acquire every big third party developer I can see Sony potentially take a NIntendo approach of having their own closed ecosystem where they specialise in their Hugh quality first party games. That'll be years away though.
Even after this deal MS are still a fair way behind Sony on gaming revenue.
Apple, Disney or Meta will acquire Sony or buy PlayStation at some point anyway I'd expect. Only deal challenge is with them being a Japanese company. Part of this move from Microsoft is no doubt pre emptive with that in mind.
Apple, Disney or Meta will acquire Sony or buy PlayStation at some point anyway I'd expect. Only deal challenge is with them being a Japanese company. Part of this move from Microsoft is no doubt pre emptive with that in mind.
I held the opinion when the deal happened that COD would remain on PlayStation. Don't know why, really, but I still think that will happen. And it has nothing to do with Phil Spencer coming out yesterday and saying it because I wouldn't trust that guy as far as I could throw him.
The doomsday merchants in various quarters of the internet who are proclaiming the demise of PlayStation are ridiculous though, regardless of whether COD remains on the platform or not. "It's over for PlayStation" Calm the feck down
Obviously losing COD will be a blow (the numbers tell you that) but I'm sure they'll survive. Would love for them to actually focus on a First Person multiplayer shooter now. I know others have tried to take on COD and have failed, but if ever there was a time to really go for it, it would be now.
The doomsday merchants in various quarters of the internet who are proclaiming the demise of PlayStation are ridiculous though, regardless of whether COD remains on the platform or not. "It's over for PlayStation" Calm the feck down
Obviously losing COD will be a blow (the numbers tell you that) but I'm sure they'll survive. Would love for them to actually focus on a First Person multiplayer shooter now. I know others have tried to take on COD and have failed, but if ever there was a time to really go for it, it would be now.
Yeah.. If they weren't already working on an FPS multiplayer franchise they certainly will be now.I held the opinion when the deal happened that COD would remain on PlayStation. Don't know why, really, but I still think that will happen. And it has nothing to do with Phil Spencer coming out yesterday and saying it because I wouldn't trust that guy as far as I could throw him.
The doomsday merchants in various quarters of the internet who are proclaiming the demise of PlayStation are ridiculous though, regardless of whether COD remains on the platform or not. "It's over for PlayStation" Calm the feck down
Obviously losing COD will be a blow (the numbers tell you that) but I'm sure they'll survive. Would love for them to actually focus on a First Person multiplayer shooter now. I know others have tried to take on COD and have failed, but if ever there was a time to really go for it, it would be now.
Agreed, that commentary is silly, Sony are the biggest and even if in the future they aren't the market leader they will certainly be up there.
His desire to see it remain on the platform could well be "You can have it, but it's going to be through Game Pass on PlayStation, or not at all".
Is it time for Sony and Nintendo to do the unthinkable?
Eventually, maybe. No way he can enforce that currently. Sony still have contracts for timed exclusivity to some COD shit.
I also think Sony would give big Phil a polite feck off to such a proposal in the future. Especially if the rumours are true that Sony plan to create their own rental service to rival GP.
Nearly happened in the 90s.Is it time for Sony and Nintendo to do the unthinkable?
They cannot. They have a higher market capitalisation (260B for Disney vs 140B for Sony), but Sony has higher revenues and higher profits, and Disney definitely does not have 200B or so to buy Sony. At best, they could do a 1.5-1 merge in favor of Disney.
On the other hand, Meta, Google, Apple, or Amazon could likely afford to buy Sony (in the case of later, funding it via Amazon shares) but I do not see Sony being interested in that for at least another few years. They totally dominated the last console war (more than double the sales of XBox) and despite that you cannot buy a PS5 cause of chip shortage, they still sold more than XBox console. I think they still have the better first-party games, and I am not sure how much long term these purchases will hurt them. For example, Fallout has gone to crap, and the last ES was in 2011, so Bethesda even going full Microsoft, won't hurt Sony too much. WoW was always a PC game so that won't hurt Sony. Call of Duty sure, but then Sony was never that big in first-person shooters (unlike Microsoft who has Halo and Gears). At the end of the day, despite the Bethesda and Activision Blizzard purchase, Microsoft Gaming will still have a lower revenue than Sony.
Saying that, obviously these purchases are putting Microsoft in a very good position to fight back after their defeat in the previous console. I still think that Sony are gonna win this console generation war, but it is going to be much closer, or probably a draw like with PS3-XBox 360.
It would also be interesting to see if Sony has any move. For example, buying SquareEnix and ensuring that FF, KH, DQ, TR and other games become exclusive. I do not expect a Sony-Nintendo merge, to be fair, totally different things.
Then there is always the possibility of a new player entering the scene (looking at Tencent).
NintonyIs it time for Sony and Nintendo to do the unthinkable?
This would be interesting however I’d imagine Sony would need to get its shit together given the fiasco with the PS 5 stock which is still ongoing.Is it time for Sony and Nintendo to do the unthinkable?
Don’t think Nintendo would tolerate such amateurish production.
Fiasco? A little over a year since its launch, it's their fastest selling console ever despite ongoing global semiconductor shortages, which clearly seem to be affecting newer manufacturing lines more.
Absolute fiasco yes
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Meta buying Playstation would be pretty hilarious to be fair. It'd instantly go from one of the world's most beloved and loyal brands to one of the most hated.
Apple? Maybe, but unlikely, they're not as in to big acquisitions as Microsoft.
Disney? No chance, as Revan said, Sony would be impossible for them to acquire.
Also Sony would never willingly sell the Playstation brand or section, it's easily their most profitable.
Sintendo.
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if there was a Meta and Sony(or MS) deal at some point. If they're going heavy on VR then gaming will be part of that i just wouldn't expect it to be a buyout.
How are global stock shortages a Sony fiasco?
You do know it's affecting numerous electronic manufacturers.
Maybe its about leverage to get xbox game pass on sony and nintentdo machines rather than taking over the hardware market, which i dont think microsoft care that much about
So, in 2021 I played 1289 hours apparently.
288 hours on binding of isaac
278 hours on destiny 2
158 hours on tribes of midgaard
101 hours on marvel avengers
64 hours on Outriders.
288 hours on binding of isaac
278 hours on destiny 2
158 hours on tribes of midgaard
101 hours on marvel avengers
64 hours on Outriders.
Owing to isolation over Christmas I managed to get some decent time to play the PS5 in the past few weeks. Picked up a few deals on the January sales. Platinumed Ratchet and Clank, did one play through of Resident Evil Village and working through Death Loop and Guardians of the Galaxy now.
Spent way too much time on COD Cold War this past year so it was nice to get into more story driven games.
Spent way too much time on COD Cold War this past year so it was nice to get into more story driven games.
One of them (could be someone like a Tencent too) will look to acquire them I'm sure of it. Japanese element definitely adds a barrier though.
They're all gearing for metaverse and Sony would help that a lot. Pretty sure that will have been a big part of the story for Microsoft on Activision Blizzard too.
I could see Meta buying Take Two first and going from there.
Tencent is already the 2nd biggest in terms of gaming revenue I think?
Could see Sony going for a Konami or Square for sure.
I'm not saying an acquisition will happen immediately, itll be a while yet, but somebody like Meta would be willing to overpay by a lot for Sony if they were allowed to buy them.
I've had about 13 meetings on metaverse this year (I'm sick of it) and some are going all out. Meta aren't planning to slow down on that front and gaming is at the centre of everything they want to do. I think they'd see the vr stuff as complimentary rather than duplicate and it helps them diversify, something they've struggled with, without adding to the anti competition issues they'd face with other acquisitions that could drive similar growth.
I imagine they'll keep it multiplatform but also throw it up on gamepass Day 1 to entice people to go for their service instead. It's probably more profitable for them in the long run and they already work with Nintendo in terms of making their exclusive IPs available on other consoles (Ori and Banjo).I held the opinion when the deal happened that COD would remain on PlayStation. Don't know why, really, but I still think that will happen. And it has nothing to do with Phil Spencer coming out yesterday and saying it because I wouldn't trust that guy as far as I could throw him.
The doomsday merchants in various quarters of the internet who are proclaiming the demise of PlayStation are ridiculous though, regardless of whether COD remains on the platform or not. "It's over for PlayStation" Calm the feck down
Obviously losing COD will be a blow (the numbers tell you that) but I'm sure they'll survive. Would love for them to actually focus on a First Person multiplayer shooter now. I know others have tried to take on COD and have failed, but if ever there was a time to really go for it, it would be now.
Either way, we're forgetting that Microsoft and Sony have had business relationships in the past. MLB The Show 21 is a Sony developed game that Microsoft paid money to put on Gamepass on release. This'll just be a reverse of the situation where Microsoft probably retain further rights to exclusive/timed DLC.
Anyone tried the new rainbow 6? What is it about? Like siege?
If there's one thing I'm absolutely not looking forward to in the video game industry, it's a fecking metaverse. Jesus wept.
They'll certainly put it on gamepass day 1. MLB wasn't Sony's decision right? I thought MLB themselves basically forced it through since it's their license.
On Nintendo front, there was this from Phil Spencer, where it sounded like he was saying putting exclusives on Switch created confusion and that they should step away from doing that and focus on putting on Xbox + PS. Was a bit vague and obviously Cod is in a league of it's own.
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Mate.. it's not just video game industry.
There's a big car brand looking to give new car owners an NFT that unlocks the car and turns it on..
Oh, they'll definitely put it on Gamepass. That's the whole idea. "Here, you can have it on PlayStation, but you'll have to pay £60 for it while we'll have it on Gamepass on release"
The MLB one is interesting, though, because it wasn't Sony who decided to work together with Microsoft. Despite the fact that one of their internal studios made the game, the MLB itself were the ones who said we're moving to Xbox as well. Not a lot Sony could do about it.
Also, the assumption was at the time that it would kill the sales on PlayStation when Microsft announced that it would be on Gamepass, but it ended up actually doing great numbers on the PlayStation. Obviously, there are way more PlayStation consoles in the wild than Xbox's so maybe no surprise. But at the time I think the general feeling was "this is going to be bad for Sony".
Not that you can draw any comparisons between MLB and COD. Two completely different animals, of course.
Decided to hook my ps5 upto the projector, only a 1080p projectors but it looks way better than the PS4 hooked upto the projector, any reason why?