That is not saying much for a team that has shocking distance covered stats. He may be one of the best of a bad lot (at that stage of the season - would be interested to see overall this year) but put him in most other teams in the league and he would be down near the bottom.
Not really, Ibrahimovic required players to support him on the field at the exception of Juventus and Barcelona, People mainly think that he failed at Barcelona. It's also irrelevant since they are both disliked which was the point of the conversation.
We keep on hearing stuff like this about Pogba but it never ever happens.
Im really not, but we probably just see and understand the world differently, different country, different culture. I know the behavioral patterns when I see them, based on experience and learning from others. People's intentions are not very hard to figure out, no matter where they are from. Im not saying all the criticism and abuse is coming from that place, but a lot of it is and these patterns repeat themselves over generations. We'll just agree to disagree.
As much as it would be lovely, I'm sure agent Raiola would advise him against that. There's still business involved. If you believe the other rumour that he has asked us for an improved contract, saying that you love the club and never want to leave wouldn't give you a very strong negotiating position.
Why doesn't De Gea? Or Herrera should admit that he's leaving.
Because players don't comment on papers where journalists speculate, it's something that happens everyday in a multitude of countries.
I do wonder....
on Woody I was referring to Neville pointing the finger at Pogba in terms of his social media comments - what I had said was its all well and good criticising players for Neville but why has he been so silent on the main reason for our decline
I don't think race is an issue here at all - he is your most high profile player - a guy who supposedly is one of the best in the world - he is not performing anywhere near what you would expect that level of adulation and profile would suggest. None of your other players come close in terms of exposure and hype and he has severely under performed (mostly). It may be unfair to pin it all on him - all the players deserve scrutiny and criticism however he naturally gets most of the focus for all the reasons stated.
He is a World Cup winner.
He is critical of Woodward:
so is Ozil.Because:
agree with a lot of this - our most high profile player but also our highest rated player based on performances and productivity
And if you are a vampire, why shouldn’t we implement garlic into your every post?
Christ. No prejudice here then.
Who cares. It's literally every week there is a story that he wants to leave, he is not happy. You can see from his body language as well recently. If he wants to go I will personally drive him to Spain.
He's already on 27 (16G+11A) this season. Don't you think he'll be better in that Madrid side?
you see what you want to see. He plays literally no different than he did before with Ole. He was poor under Mourinho, picked up when Ole came in and has now reverted back to type.
Anyway it seems that if he does eventually leave half of our fanbase will be happy. I don't understand why.
everybody was poor under Mourinho.
I agree to disagree with you. What i saw on Sunday was a team not playing bady, but a team just not trying at all. Lack of effort and desire was clear to see and that cannot be tolerated at Manchester United. Everyone was poor under Mourinho, everyone has been poor under Ole. Mass clear out is needed, players need a reality check and need to be kicked up the arse out shown the door. Pogba is one of those, one of many.everybody was poor under Mourinho.
He's not exactly "reverted" back to type, he's just not been playing as the AMC recently. We've moved back to a 2 striker formation most of the time, or played Lukaku up top with him as a 2 man midfield. When he played as the AMC he was much closer to the goal, so his goal tally was better. Now he's moved back deeper to try and supply the passes (which he does plenty) but the strikers are letting us down.
You might not be, but many here are solely blaming Pogba, they're letting the press influence them which is bonkers.
People genuinely think selling Pogba is "good" for the club? since when is selling your highest goal scorer/assister a good move?.
I don't buy all this "he's a negative influence" on the squad, what exactly does Pogba do that is so unstabilising? dancing and being happy? give over
The fact is the whole squad were playing out of their skins and in good form, we had a bit of luck that masked some results. Now we aren't playing quite so well and our form has dipped and it's showing again.
I personally think we should drop Lukaku and go back to the 4-2-3-1 with Rashford/Pogba/Lingard/Martial front 4 that did so well together. Since the PSG home match we've abandoned it which I don't understand why.
Yes Everton was unacceptable, we can all agree on that. I just don't think selling our best player is going to cut it. At least he brings the ability to create goals, I'd be shifting Matic out far sooner, he does literally nothing apart from sideways passes.
It’s simple - the level of hype around Pogba was disproportionate to his actual level so a lot of criticism is born out of disappointment
I’ll raise you one Kleberson.
Virtually all of them need to go. If you take that starting line up. Jones, Smalling, Matic, Lukaku all need to be sold. Rashford, Fred, Dalot are squad players.Yes Everton was unacceptable, we can all agree on that. I just don't think selling our best player is going to cut it. At least he brings the ability to create goals, I'd be shifting Matic out far sooner, he does literally nothing apart from sideways passes.
Could you imagine if that was Pogba that give Sigurdsson that amount of room for his goal? we wouldn't hear the end of it all week. Hardly a peep I've heard about Matic. He's supposed to be the defensive master!
Hardly an outlandish concept.
You're comparing apples to oranges.
He might be but he sure hasn't shown it or proved he wants to play for United.
Have you been following what has been happening with Coutinho at Barca at all?
Some of you are just making it up to fit an agenda.
Because he's supposed to be this wonderful, world class player but all he does is stroll around hardly making any effort.
This is exactly how I feel. Pogba is far and away the best player at United, responsible for almost all the good things that happen on the pitch and because he somehow isn't also fixing Young, Smalling, Jones, De Gea, Lingard, Lukaku and Alexis f*cking Sanchez' issues he's the one we pick on.
People keep coming out with this rubbish.
